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morbid/delusional jealousy

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Finisher64 · 15/04/2021 12:59

I began reading about this illness and posted on someone else's thread and was advised to start my own so here we go I have experienced the abuse from my partner who I have been involved with for 2 years. It started out amazing everything I could have imagined. We had extreme chemistry and loved being with each other. He preferred that we spent our time alone and was very adamant about keeping family and friends out of our business.
It started a year and a half ago, accusations of my cheating extreme accusations. He said I date raped him in order to have sex with my sons friends in my car. I would shovel my deck in order to get rid of foot prints in the snow, sneak men in my back door, talked to his co workers in order to get information on him in exchange for sex....the list goes on and on.
I have never and would never do such things. I was devastated when all of this started and didn't understand. I thought he had organic matter on his brain and was extremely concerned. Wanted to start couple counselling but he refused. We continued for a year and a half, his conspiracy theories never went away and when he communicated them to me he would verbally abuse me. I was never allowed to know when and where he was working because I was planning to see other men. It became everything about our relationship, he changed our relationship to friendship because he could never be with a woman filled with lies and deception and infidelity. I put up with it for 14 months trying to make him come to his senses and understand that his thoughts were delusions. It didn't help. It has ruined my life and my heart and soul are damaged. I have finally ended this dangerous game but am left feeling with intense sorrow. I really loved him but he is a sick man who hurts me I have no choice, even though I thought we would last forever.

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Moretodo · 28/10/2021 16:28

"He can be a friend sometimes, but it doesn't last".
Not a friend then?

I'm not saying this to catch you out, but to highlight how we can lie to ourselves about the worth and value of something, or the truth and reality of a situation.

I think you can be a better friend to yourself than he can ever be.

I can't remember the full thread here, but there are probably things in your past that he has triggered.

Old feelings of low self worth, old messages that we need to take care of others.

Have you looked at any talking heads on you tube or elsewhere to help you unravel/understand some of this?
How are things going woth the therapist?

Moretodo · 28/10/2021 16:30

Woth?
Excuse me. I have made that typo so many times my phone now corrects with to woth. Halloween Hmm

SleepingBunnies21 · 28/10/2021 21:01

It started a year and a half ago, accusations of my cheating extreme accusations. He said I date raped him in order to have sex with my sons friends in my car. I would shovel my deck in order to get rid of foot prints in the snow, sneak men in my back door, talked to his co workers in order to get information on him in exchange for sex....the list goes on and on.

He was faking in the beginning.

He couldn't maintain it people usually dangerous after a few months.

(And there were still red flags even early on).

The above means this man has serious mental health problems, including "otherwise syndrome".

It is also worth pointing out that one man like this who.Lundy Bancroft dealt with and talked a outbin his book admitted that he made the accusations to get control of his partner; her trying to prove him wrong and circumvent his accusations meant he got pretty much total control.
So its possible they even do it, not believing what they say they believe (re the infidelity). They just need you to think they believe it.

Anyway; serious MH and personality issues. The only person, on they see this who should he involved with men like this are mental health professionals in a professional neutral relationship. They are noh suitable for anything else from "friendship" to relationship. They are "ba k away slowly and get the fk out of dodge" material.

SleepingBunnies21 · 28/10/2021 21:02

Aw so many typos.

People like him usually can't maintain it after a few months.

He has "Othello syndrome".

EarthSight · 28/10/2021 22:15

@Finisher64

It has been some time and no one has posted anything on my thread, does anyone one else have anything to add? I would like to hear from other woman who have experienced anything like this? What the end game was for them? Please it helps me to understand and I think it will help with my recovery from this terrible experience.
I thinks it's brilliant that you are no longer with him.

I'm sorry that you're still finding it rough, but I really believe that people like this are dangerous. It doesn't matter if they're sick or just plain abusive - you got yourself out of a risky situation.

Just read this -

he told me I was lucky he did not Knock me out!

Yep.....dangerous.

Are you in love with who he really is as a whole person, or are you in love with parts of him or who you dreamt he could be, who you hoped he was? It hurts because now you are away from him, there is more room for positive feelings to develop which makes you miss him.......but that's not the real him. That's a person that's been altered by your memory and who's at a safe distance.

Finisher64 · 30/10/2021 01:20

Yes I agree EarthSight at a very safe distance! I don't want the emotional abuse ever again. And I don't know him he has a sick mind. I don't know who his but I know what he is. I'm not going there any more I am deserving of love, especially from myself. If I can't do this for myself than there is nothing worth living for. I love myself more that that. I loved him, and I bless him with love he is free and so am I. Louise Hay, her affirmation, I listen to her at least 3 times a day! I will change, I do not to be this for the rest of my life! Happiness, joy and peace is what I am manifesting for my life. And yes I want a healthy relationship, one that is evelasting.

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Finisher64 · 04/11/2021 00:25

Moretodo, what does that mean?? I am Italian and Morto means dead!
No it is not worth destroying my mental and emotional health, I blocked him again I just don't trust myself. I don't want him anymore I don't want the abuse anymore, and I don't ever need to see him again. I just hate being alone. My friends are all moving forward in their lives and now I'm stuck in this same recovery. I felt like I had a life outside of working, being there for my adult children. I liked that having my own thing. It just wasn't a good thing. It is taking every ounce of fiber not to reach out to him. Wow why is this so hard?

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Moretodo · 04/11/2021 16:30

Your problem is there!
You don't want to be on your own.
Why?

Look at that stuff. This 'hole' inside yourself is what he is getting into and wounding you through.
These types can cause a lot of damage, even therapists don't really grasp it.
They can enmesh with you and take over your mind.
Those who have not been through this do not understand.

He has conditioned you.
You need to build up those defenses, build those boundaries and protect yourself.

Have you thought about investing in a coach?

Moretodo · 04/11/2021 16:36

Look at coda 12 step programme/literagure/meetings.
You are probably codependent.

You could also try sex, love and relationships anonymous.

Finisher64 · 08/11/2021 04:44

Thank you for all of this. I will do all of the above. I don't know about and how to get a coach. You are right he does wound me inside myself. I shared my true self with him and he knows now what hurts me and uses it to get to me! Time continues to go by and this is good I have not seen him much, twice in 39 days. This is very good. He feels very distant to me and I am slowly living my life without him. I cannot wait for the day that I feel nothing for him. To wake up and not think of him or feel any grief or sorrow. I will not be crazy any longer he made me crazy. Thank you for continuing to encourage me. I will look at all of the suggestions that you have made. I want to be free of this, and heal from this for once and for all. I want peace in my life and perhaps some day happiness. Thanks

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Moretodo · 08/11/2021 10:17

You trusted him enough and let him in, you showed him your wounds and frailties, your hurt inner child, believing he was doing the same.
He instead exploited and exploits that.
He was insincere, and that hurts.
He will be retraumatising you, and bringing up old hurts that you have buried.
Every feeling of unworthiness you have felt.
It is not safe for you to be around this man who is unpicking you psychologically as you prioritise his hurts, try to understand and help him.

You need to focus on you, on your recovery and healing those parts that made you a target for this type of predatory man.

You are still connected to him energetically. Save yourself and cut him off.
There is no happy end.
Only your survival and recovery.

Finisher64 · 15/01/2022 19:12

Wow it has been months since I have wrote on this page. I have to say that I did hold on for longer but I can honestly say that I will never do that again. Now I am trying to heal from the absolute sickest experience I have ever had. His illness his abuse made me crazy. I lost myself for so long. I wish that I had never met him. I also pray for anyone who is in the mess that I was. It is not right and I don't spend anytime trying to figure out why he is that way what I do think about is why I let it go on for as long as I did.

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Willnotgiveup · 30/03/2022 21:58

My husband and I of almost 23 yrs are beginning this journey except we are not going to let this shit beat us. He knows in his heart I would never cheat and we are at the stage now of trying to find out how and why that thought for in his head but most importantly how to get it out. We will find a answer so we can help others going through this crazy shit. I would not have believed it if I had not experienced it first hand. It's pure hell but we have come to far in life to throw in the towel. I am a very strong woman and I refuse to let this be the end of us all for something we didn't understand.

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