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Relationship breakdown who’s wrong him or me

84 replies

ScotJane · 02/04/2021 19:28

Hi all

Thank you for taking the time to read my post. I’m a 44 year old in a relationship with a 36 year old for the last 10 years, we’d doing long distance for two years before I made the move to his home city. Basically we have split up today because he says he no longer trusts me or feels I respect him but today feels different and feels like the end. We’ve a steady relationship with no kids but probably every 6 months or so we have an argument and he storms off in another room and ends the relationship. He went for a promotion in work a year ago and was successful but wasn’t placed immediately however 6 months ago he was on a work call and I said when I thought he’d hung up you need to speak up for yourself a bit more and let them hear your voice and opinions. People in work were on the call and heard and he said I’d let him down and made him doubt himself and kicked his confidence and that was never my intention so he ended things. After lots of chats he said this was my last chance as he was tired of giving me them through the years that I promise I’ll change but I had to learn to be more respectful. Fast forward to last week and he was on a work call in front of me everyone was asked to go on mute and this one guy kept slurping his tea and we looked at each other and exchange a smirk, I went to laugh but put my hand to my mouth to stop myself but he said he lost him train of thought and again ended things. I managed to convince him that I thought it was a shared moment between us as a couple so he forgave me. Fast forward to today, i went shopping and bought us nice drinks to celebrate as I passed an exam and he said we would celebrate. I cooked us a nice lunch but kitchen was stinky so I light a candle. He came down and went mad, said it was the ultimate sign of disrespect that it was another sign of me doing what I want and not giving a f&£k, I said I thought we were celebrating some good news for us and it was a special occasion hence I was ok to light one of the special occasion candles. He said he’d never do that without consulting me and it’s another sign of me not thinking of him. It’s a accumulation of lots of things and he’s done with me.
He said if he stays with me he will kill himself and he doesn’t want that on me, that he’s given me enough chances and he feels like an idiot for staying. I live in a city with few friends outside of work and to b honest I’ve always sheltered sharing with my friends because I don’t want them thinking badly of him. Signs of disrespect to him in the past and have resulted in previous breakup are:
Me sorting out new kitchen cabinets without him
Shouting at him to help me in kitchen
Using aerosols in rooms when he’s asked me not too.
Am I crazy that it is me, I say sorry constantly but feel like I’m living on a knife edge constantly but he twists respect and constantly convinced me that I’m inconsiderate, selfish and disrespectful! When I went to speak to him he said I was talking too loud said neighbours would hear so I said they will find out soon enough, he jumped up to run out of the house and I am scared he will kill himself so I ran out of the room
He says he’s done with me because although he loves me the two most important things are trust and respect and each time I disrespect him I loose his trust!

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Babysharkdoodoodood · 02/04/2021 20:32

He said you disrespected him for tidying up the kitchen cupboards? He's a fucking wanker.

Get out before you lose your marbles.

And mess up the cupboards before you go.

Kabakofte · 02/04/2021 20:33

He is a grade A twat who has you thinking that there's something about you which is destructive, telling you staying together will kill him??!! Staying with me would kill him, I'd have him buried under the patio by now. Get rid, pure and simple!

ScotJane · 02/04/2021 21:09

The thing is I only light the bloody candle because he hates the smell of the one I normally light. He says it’s not bout the candle though it’s about me constantly disrespecting him by my behaviour and not thinking therefore losing his trust!
I was in a relationship prior to this for 10 years and I really thought I’d got it right this time, cannot believe I’m here again!

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Peace43 · 02/04/2021 21:15

I’m totally boggled by this? How could lighting a candle ever be construed as a disrespectful act? You didn’t spit on him or call him names, you lit a candle!!!!!

Definitely time for you to leave... run, don’t walk!

Branleuse · 02/04/2021 21:18

that man has HUGE issues. Youre better off out of it. You cant live like that. Hes had one foot out the door the entire time, and is looking for you to trip up so he can end it. If it hasnt already driven you mad ,it will eventually

Nanny0gg · 02/04/2021 21:26

@ScotJane

The thing is I only light the bloody candle because he hates the smell of the one I normally light. He says it’s not bout the candle though it’s about me constantly disrespecting him by my behaviour and not thinking therefore losing his trust! I was in a relationship prior to this for 10 years and I really thought I’d got it right this time, cannot believe I’m here again!
Any reason you don't leave?

Can you afford to? Are there children?

PixelatedLunchbox · 02/04/2021 21:28

@ScotJane this guy is simply not mentally stable. Please stop wasting your life tiptoeing around his volatile moods. Life is far too short for this shit.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 02/04/2021 21:32

ScotJane

re your comment:-
"I was in a relationship prior to this for 10 years and I really thought I’d got it right this time, cannot believe I’m here again!"

It is not an uncommon scenario for women in abusive relationships to go from one abusive relationship into another abusive one. Consider also what you learnt about relationships when you were growing up as this may well have a bearing on why you chose these men to be in a relationship with.

Block and delete this man from your life and do not under any circumstances go back to him.

Love your own self for a change and do not date or enter into any further relationship until you are completely healed. Give yourself at least 12 months from now of being single and from this rebuilding your life and already weakened boundaries, boundaries that were also damaged by previous abuse.

Your shark cage is damaged and you were targeted by this man deliberately. He sensed something from and in you that he can and has indeed exploited for much if not practically all your relationship. As did your ex; he did very much the same.

I would suggest you look at the Freedom Programme by Womens Aid in addition to continuing with your counselling sessions.

ScotJane · 02/04/2021 21:35

I said that to him peace43 but he said it’s an accumulation of my acts. I’m been taking my brains thinking of all the fights thru the years he deems disrespectful and most of them are around his feelings never mine like the night I didn’t watch something on his phone quick enough he stormed out of bed. Or the night I was on the phone to my sister and he pushed my leg off his lap coz he was too hot and I said hey that hurt in front of her. No children thankfully but I can’t leave, not right now I am not from this country and haven’t been able to travel home in a year. I could hopefully buy him out of the home I’m hoping the bank will let me add on his buy out to the mortgage. I sold my home to buy into this and I can’t believe I’m here again fearing I’m losing it all again at 44

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 02/04/2021 21:35

I guess you were never aware that joint counselling is never recommended when there is abuse of any type within the relationship. Not at all surprised to see that he refused this, it was a given he would do so.

Solasum · 02/04/2021 21:39

It makes me tired just reading about him. It must be such an endless drain being with someone so Difficult and Petty. Being single would be a million times more enjoyable @ScotJane.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 02/04/2021 21:43

The only acceptable level of abuse in a relationship is none.
You can leave to escape abuse; that is permitted even under strict lockdown restrictions. Any further time in his company will just give him more opportunity to gaslight you; gaslighting is an example of pyschological abuse. This man probably targeted you as well because of a) your poor boundaries and b) the fact you are from overseas so therefore do not know much about the lay of the land.

I would seek legal advice asap re the house to see if a sale can be forced.

jessstan2 · 02/04/2021 21:50

Your fella sure is insecure! He's always going to blame you for things and it will end up doing your head in.

Do you want this for the rest of your life? At 36 you're still young and there's a big world out there - or will be when we have the pandemic under control.

Don't spend your life treading on eggshells and biting your tongue, it's not worth it.

ScotJane · 02/04/2021 21:52

He was in a relationship from 18 and she used him for a lot of stuff, took all his money etc and he once told me they went for counselling but he didn’t rate it, I feel like in his head he’s like she’s never going to hurt me like that. He spent 5 years with that girl and the day he left her he never looked back. He said once she let him down that was it and that why he says he’s an idiot by keeping giving me chances! know in my own head that I do nothing wrong that it’s him not me but he has a way of utterly convincing you that you wrong not him. When I moved here he was great and worked 7 days a week for three years to get up his share of the deposit but I was so lonely and I remember once crying on the phone to my mam and he overheard that & said it was the ultimate betrayal that I was disrespectful when he was killing himself working but I’d moved here to b with him and was sat on my own every single day.
I’m scared, scared of being on my own, of losing his wonderful family, of losing my home that I have put every single penny I own into. Of life without him I know I’ll be fine and I’d get thru it but having to start again making friends that aren’t shared in a city that isn’t mine is scary

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Allthatechoes · 02/04/2021 21:52

Does he often seem to start these arguments at times when you have something to celebrate?
You said you’d passed an exam, I wonder if he wanted to spoil your enjoyment of your success?

Anyway him ending the relationship over the tiniest thing every six months is not something you need to put up with.

Call his bluff and find a way to leave him Flowers

ScotJane · 02/04/2021 21:57

He has said in the past he’d walk away from the house with nothing, to be fair he isn’t a materialistic person but I’d want him to be able to buy on his own and start again

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toocold54 · 02/04/2021 21:58

Are you happy OP?

You shouldn’t be worried about lighting a candle unless he was allergic or something what a ridiculous thing for him to get upset about. I’d move on OP and find someone better.

ScotJane · 02/04/2021 22:04

Not really he is always happy to celebrate my success, I have a very good job and am quite confident with that, the only thing he does say is that I ALWAYS find a way of ruining things when we are at our happiest. I said I don’t do stuff on purpose and he said that worse it’s that you DONT think so I’ll do it again because i unconsciously do it. Like today I was on the phone FaceTiming my family when I light the candle and he says that’s typical you, doing two things at once not paying attention or thinking to ask my opinion. I wouldn’t mind but I bought the candle but that’s irrelevant in his mind. I said respect is a two way street when I told him about passing my exams (it’s a v boring subject to b fair) he said oh sorry I just nodded off. I said to him today that was disrespectful but how I hadn’t made a big deal out of it but I pulled him on it earlier and he said no that’s banter. Maybe to you but not to me but he doesn’t see or feel my feelings

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Hailtomyteeth · 02/04/2021 22:05

I don't give a damn what he thinks. He's a cunt.
Stop questioning yourself. Stop doubting yourself. Just leave.
Will your mam have you?

toocold54 · 02/04/2021 22:07

It sounds like you can’t do anything right. If you are that bad why doesn’t he just leave then.
Honestly this isn’t going to get any better.

ScotJane · 02/04/2021 22:14

I am toocold54 95% of the time, he is very sensitive and I’m not. I think disagreements need to happen in relationships but in a balanced manner but he analyses everything. I genuinely believe I’m hurting him, he wants a perfect respectful relationship (which I think we have) and they don’t exist, I said to him today that he isn’t suited to being with women and he said so be it if that’s the case I’ll b on my own but at last I’ll b happy! I know the work comments hurt him and I get that big I’m not perfect, on reflection I probably should have kept my mouth shut as he isn’t a confident person on work at all! But I was trying to encourage him

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ScotJane · 02/04/2021 22:19

His mum is shielding so he can’t go home, I’ve no family here so I’m stuck in the house with him until he could rent somewhere in separate rooms!

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EarthSight · 02/04/2021 22:22

He said if he stays with me he will kill himself and he doesn’t want that on me

Then do him a favour and end the relationship. It's become unhealthy and I think it's probably the best outcome for the both of you.

TaraR2020 · 02/04/2021 22:23

Op you can do so much better than him - you deserve so much better!

What a pompous, up-his-own-arse arse. Controlling, emotionally abusive man baby.

Move on, trust me - you're better off without him.

Hold your head high and go build yourself a fabulous like without him. I know its scary and overwhelming, but imagine this:

Imagine not feeling life you're living on a life edge
Imagine not being on an emotional rollercoaster all the time
Imagine feeling cherished, respected and enjoyed
...being able to light candles, use air freshener and chose your furniture.

Picture yourself a beautiful independent life then go and make it. Flowers

Tenohfour · 02/04/2021 22:30

He is controlling and gaslighting you. Seriously. He is not expecting you to accept the breakup. He expects you to beg him for another chance. Do not give him the pleasure. Let him go.

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