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Is this the end?

114 replies

Rageagainstmanchild · 21/03/2021 11:15

I have NC as I don't want this linked to my other threads.

My DP is a hothead, always has been and he shouts a lot and can be aggressive. Never physically to me, although when throwing things he has caught my leg/arm but would never hit me I don't think. He is in the process of quitting smoking, which I think has added to the stress this week but it's part of a long line of behaviour that I can't cope with.

About 2 years ago he punched a hole in wall and told me he'd cave my fucking head in, in front of the children (very young) and we nearly split up over it but he promised to go to anger management, which never materialised but he hasn't done anything like that since.

He gets angry all the time, when he's tired, when he's stressed about his hobby and I always try to placate him as I don't want him to shout at the children or me. He smacked our child once and I tried to leave but we worked through it, I don't know why I didn't leave then as it goes against everything I believe in and we agreed before children that we would never smack them. DC1 is quite aggressive and vocal, learned behaviour but he can't cope with it.

I have been having counselling and I'm trying to stick up for myself and vocalise how I'm feeling to try and communicate better, which had been working but the past few weeks he's showed that he doesn't like this.

His hobby is taking up so much time, it's consuming him and I've asked him to do a couple of things as I don't have a key to the shed or garage so couldn't do myself. Bear in mind that I do everything else and I asked politely to put something away as we had workmen coming to the house. He exploded and called me a cunt. I'm not proud but I exploded at him and chucked all his stuff that I wanted him to move, in the garden, the children weren't here.

The second time this week he called me a cunt was over me asking if he'd looked inside our child's school bag as there had been dirty clothing in there, he shouted, called me a cunt and said I hadn't told him to and that I need to prioritise the children and call the doctor (the reason there were dirty clothes was because of a medical condition) - I again said that the children are not solely my responsibility, I work full time, do everything round the house etc.

Third time this week, I came into our kitchen and asked if he wanted to watch a film on Saturday evening - his friend was there and he went mental saying I was interrupting him, I was a bit put out as he was using my laptop to do something so I said he couldn't use it, I know this was childish. He basically threw my laptop across the room and it hit my leg.

We talked about it the next day, and it ended in an arguement - he claims I came into the kitchen as an aggressive act to distract him and I didn't need to do it. Called me a massive cunt again and I explained that I'm scared and intimidated by him when he shouts. He told me that was the intention and if I was a bloke he would have beat me up and that his hobby comes before me and the children. I'm not proud of it but I screamed at him that he was a bully, I wasn't going to take it anymore and called him an arse hole, the children were in the other room so heard it all. I have protected them from him so many times and have always kept my head and not argued in front of them but I couldn't control my emotions - years of verbal abuse have worn me down.

Today, I apologised for losing my temper (I apologised to the children immediately after) but that I wanted to talk to him as I can't continue to do this and want to seperate. He's basically ignoring me, kept saying he doesn't want to talk to me and I'm not accepting his boundaries - maybe I'm not but I don't particularly want him here and I want him to leave.

I'm so scared that I'm breaking up my family, that the children are going to be upset, that I can't cope on my own, that I'll forgive him and this perpetual cycle will continue. I'm a talker and want to talk things through and he likes to punch things, I'm so sad. He's gone out and left me with the children without a second thought. I hate him right now.

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baroqueandblue · 21/03/2021 13:35

I'm sure if your friends and family are as loving and supportive as you believe, OP, they'll just be glad you've found the strength to leave. Don't make excuses not to leave when there is no sane reason to stay 🤗

mummymeister · 21/03/2021 13:36

oh really! you need to re read what you have just written. "i dont want the kids to witness the police at our house" but you are quite happy for them to hear him punching walls and calling you a cunt. it wont take 10 police to take him down believe me. thats just his ego talking. And if for one minute you think the kids arent terrified by all of this then you are an idiot. ask those of us who grew up in households just like yours. what it was like to always be on edge when both parents were in the house. worried about sudden noises in the house just incase it was an outburst. excuse after excuse after excuse. he doesnt need to make excuses because you make all of them for him! Why do women feel they have to play this ridiculous charade out. "oh I cant do xx because he will do yy" so fucking what! tell him now today to go. He is violent not a hot head. Dont wait until your courage subsides and it all happens again. listen to the women on here who have stood in your shoes. IT NEVER CHANGES. it will never get better.

RJnomore1 · 21/03/2021 13:41

The mere fact he says his hobby comes before you and the kids is enough.

The abuse is horrendous

Horrible man.

RJnomore1 · 21/03/2021 13:42

Oh and I’ll bet you any amount of money he shits himself and turns mr meek and compliant if you call the police. 10 police my arse. Arrogant wee cock. Is his hobby cage fighting?

Folklore9074 · 21/03/2021 13:43

He is showing you so clearly exactly who he is and what value you and your children have to him. Leave him.

DoItAnyway · 21/03/2021 13:46

The fact that he has told you not to call the police indicates he is frightened of them. They will be prepared and trained, this is what they do all day everyday, he can be no match for them.

PhoenixIsFlying · 21/03/2021 13:47

Picture a time in the future when you are there with your children knowing that you will not have to be exposed to this again. Being a single Mum is so much more preferable than being in an abusive relationship. You will have shown your children what is acceptable and what isn't. The separation will be hard but that will be just for the short term in the knowledge that you are giving you and your children a future you all deserve. It's easy to let doubts seep in. Be strong. You can do this!

2late2fixate · 21/03/2021 13:53

He's done quite a number on you if you believe what he says about needing ten police officers to take him down.

Pathetic man child.

You need to deflate his ego.

ScabbyHorse · 21/03/2021 13:58

I think you should ring women's aid and police and get advice for how to kick him out. He has already damaged your children but if you act quickly they can heal, they need to be away from him to do that. Speaking from experience here. Managed to get rid of my ex when my DS was five, if I hadn't I think social services would have been involved as school would've picked up on things. Ex was aggressive like yours. Thought it was normal.
Am now in a relationship of three years where we have never called each other a bad word, once. You have to make this final effort and do the right thing. In a few years you will see the benefits. Otherwise it will just get worse.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 21/03/2021 14:10

At this stage, having taken him back and made excuses for him I'm afraid you are enabling him to subject the children to an abusive household.

He IS violent. Smacked a child, punches things, throws stuff. At some point he will punch one of your children, shove them, throw them.

And how will you feel then? How will they feel then.

Your innocent children are waking up and going to sleep in a house they are frightened in. You probably do the same but the difference is that you have a choice.

It should be an easy choice. I'm not saying it's an easy process or easy emotionally but the active choice should be a no brainer.

I'm sorry because I know you've also been abused by him but at the moment you are quite literally choosing this man over the wellbeing of your children. Can you live with that for one day longer?

They're frightened in what should be a safe space. You can change that. It's your responsibility as a parent to do so.

AdaFuckingShelby · 21/03/2021 14:15

You must, must must get him to leave the house. Tell your family and friends and get some support for when you tell him. I'd get a witness, he's likely not to take it well. Telling them will give you the strength and courage to tell him. Your family will be relieved , and so will you when you've made the decision. Do not accept this behaviour for a moment longer.

Branleuse · 21/03/2021 14:19

youve given him plenty of chances OP. You really need to get yourself and your children away from that toxic piece of shit. How bloody dare he treat you like that!

DoItAnyway · 21/03/2021 14:55

@2late2fixate

He's done quite a number on you if you believe what he says about needing ten police officers to take him down.

Pathetic man child.

You need to deflate his ego.

He’s a joke. He only knows how to intimidate women and children. He would be out before his feet touch the ground.
Branleuse · 21/03/2021 14:57

police would be well impressed if they had to call backup cos he kicked off. Does he even realise what a dick he sounds like

Rageagainstmanchild · 21/03/2021 15:14

Sorry I haven't been replying, I took the children out for a few hours. They said it was the best day ever, we played at the park and ate sweets, nothing special. I said I'm sorry if I have ever worried them, DC said it worried them when I shouted at I never do, daddy shouts all the time.

I know you are all right and I will ask him to leave. I need to take care of the children and myself. I don't really think I believe he'll need 10 police, it's a tactic of fear, I can see clearly how he's manipulated me and left me in fear and I feel guilty for what I'm putting the kids through. I feel awful.

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DoItAnyway · 21/03/2021 15:48

Use the feeling and that energy to take action, rather than beat yourself up. You can change the future for your children, the sooner the better.

2late2fixate · 21/03/2021 17:43

@Rageagainstmanchild

Sorry I haven't been replying, I took the children out for a few hours. They said it was the best day ever, we played at the park and ate sweets, nothing special. I said I'm sorry if I have ever worried them, DC said it worried them when I shouted at I never do, daddy shouts all the time.

I know you are all right and I will ask him to leave. I need to take care of the children and myself. I don't really think I believe he'll need 10 police, it's a tactic of fear, I can see clearly how he's manipulated me and left me in fear and I feel guilty for what I'm putting the kids through. I feel awful.

Don't feel awful. You're doing the right thing. That sounds like such a lovely day with your kids.

Buttonfm · 21/03/2021 17:53

I'm glad you and the kids had such a good day. Yes the break up will cause some turmoil but then life will be better and more peaceful for you and your children. You have nothing to feel awful about.

Bananalanacake · 21/03/2021 17:57

Who owns the property. Does he have any claim on the house. If you are the breadwinner can you afford to buy him out.

tenlittlecygnets · 21/03/2021 18:05

@CoddledAsAMommet

The children won't be upset. They'll be relieved.

I have been with my husband for 28 years ( we started young!) and he has NEVER called me a name. Not idiot, not stupid, not lazy... and certainly NEVER c**t. Never. What's going on in your house is not normal AT ALL and you need to put a final stop to it. Draw a line. This is it. Finished.

This with bells on. He's horrific. He is abusive and this is NOT normal. He's a lazy, rude, selfish, aggressive cocklodger.
Rageagainstmanchild · 21/03/2021 18:38

Banana we jointly own it. I know my parents would help me buy him out. I'm in a very fortunate position to most women.

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WisnaeMe · 21/03/2021 18:45

@Rageagainstmanchild

Banana we jointly own it. I know my parents would help me buy him out. I'm in a very fortunate position to most women.

Do it OP 🌺

thosetalesofunexpected · 21/03/2021 18:46

If he is a violent Arsehole man !

Which he clearly is !

He could violent towards you !
If you tell him you are finally leaving him !

Could you have a male relative or a work colleague or a friend to be there to support you Collecting all your stiff belingings out of the house then?

Does your Partner often on a regular basis go off to vist his friends or family then?

Those days and times he does that !
are really the ideal times to get all your personal belongs and children's stuff and make sure you secretly arrange to have a house removals van collect all your stuff to live elsewhere to freedom then !

youvegottenminuteslynn · 21/03/2021 19:00

Your children are used to a man shouting in their safe place.

One of them has been hit by him.

They are frightened of the situation like when you shouted back today.

You have to remove them from the house and placate them with treats to help make them feel safe again.

You are both currently teaching them that it is a mum's job to placate a dad's temper.

A woman's job to placate a man's temper.

Your parents can afford to get you out of this situation. Grab that opportunity and absolutely run with it, for your little ones if not just for you.

The longer they live under the same roof as you and him together, the more likely they are to replicate this relationship dynamic when they grow up.

Please, please don't subject them to this environment any longer. Be brave for them.

Rageagainstmanchild · 21/03/2021 19:05

He's back now and being all sweetness and light, trying to manipulate me into thinking it's half my fault, it really wasnt. I'm going to get the kids to bed and tell him to leave, I don't want to subject my children to another arguement as I'm getting cross thinking about it all.

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