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My marriage is over - can I have a handhold please

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Angryandhurt · 06/03/2021 22:17

I posted a few weeks ago regarding my husband and a female friendship he had and how this particular friendship left me feeling uncomfortable. Most people seemed to be of the opinion of an emotional affair at best - at worst he was cheating. I told him that for the sake of our marriage he had to stop contact with her (for the record I have no problem with female friends, just this one due to particular issues with my husband's behaviour regarding her) and if he was in contact with her again that would be it. My spidey senses tingled yesterday so I asked him. He denied so I said if he let me look at his itemised billing on his phone, if there were no messages then I would work on my insecurities and never mention it again. So then he went from no messages to "oh she messaged me about xyz on the other day". Told him if he was willing to give me that snippet then he was hiding more from me (something someone said on this thread made me realise that so thank you!). He stalled all day but when he got home from work I told him I wasn't letting it drop, so he gave me access. Not only did he not stop messaging her, there are far, far more messages over many months then I imagined - some months all but a handful are texts to her. He sill insists there's nothing going on and they're just friends and she's the only one he can talk to, as he can't his other (male) friends. Told him if he put as much time and effort into maintaining other friendships (and our marriage) as he puts into his "friendship" with her then maybe he would have other people, including his wife, to speak to. So now that's it, he's gone and I'm utterly heartbroken, facing life as a single parent, wondering what happened to the decent man I married. The one who would do anything for me and would never in a million years treat me like this. A man who has turned into a lying, deceitful, selfish wankstain

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Rodeodown · 08/03/2021 00:13

I too have had the nights sat up in tears wondering why I wasn't good enough, doubting myself and wondering how he could be so cruel when all I had done was love him. I am only just beginning to heal (very very early stages) two months on, and the healing power has come from me standing up and saying no, you left me, you fucked up and going grey rock. Take the power into your own hands and get rid of him, you will be empowered (eventually).

I know how difficult that sounds right now. I wanted to beg at his feet for him to choose me but as they say, the more you chase a dog the more it runs away. He knows how hurt you are, he just isn't man enough to care or acknowledge it. His ego has been stroked elsewhere and that has skewed his vision of everything. I'm so sorry, I know how desperately sad you are right now, I truly do.

LifeExperience · 08/03/2021 00:22

He is a horrible person-looks what he's done! And he didn't just do it once--he's done it several times a day for years. Emotional affairs are affairs. And frankly, having been where you are, I'd bet a lot of money that it's physical, too.

He's lied to you repeatedly, he's denied you the emotional intimacy you were due as his wife repeatedly, he's put his children's emotional and mental health at risk repeatedly. Now he's continuing to lie and gaslight you, to make you question yourself and feel worse so that he can feel better about himself.

You and you children deserve better. Your anger is completely justified, and is the rational human response to the abysmal way you've been treated and continue to be treated by this abhorrent jackass.

Onthedunes · 08/03/2021 00:34

@Angryandhurt

No you don't deserve this, and he knows that. He is being cruel and un kind but that is because he feels all powerful having his ego stroked he thinks he is King.

Sending him links to emotional affairs will not help, he will only ignor or become angry at your insistance on spoiling his fun, why should he understand, he wants you to understand that this friendship is what he deserves after being with you for so long.
Really thats how they think..... don't I deserve something!

Pointless talking , you are wasting your breath. The only way he will realise that an emotional affair is hurtful is to find another male friend yourself, contact with him everyday, and state how much you rely on him. Oh and he's got to be attractive a definite threat to your husband physically.
Only then will he truly understand, the only problem with this is, if you give so much attention to a male friend they want things to go further.

So whats been happening with your husband, daily texting and talking, who in that set up wants more because you can bet someone does.

Hugs to you, you do have the power to turn things round, though you may not see it at the moment.
x

SortingItOut · 08/03/2021 06:37

Its fine to cry, you are grieving for your marriage and also your future.

Look up grey rock and follow that.

Sending links to him isn't helping, he knows he has done wrong because he deleted their messages. He wont say sorry because he's not, the only person he cares about is himself.

He is not a nice person, don't try to reason with him as you'll end up frustrated.

Once I left my husband after all his emotional affairs he told me he did it for the ego boost but would never have left me for anyone....great, so he wanted me to put up and shut up and be grateful.
You can bet if the tables were turned he wouldn't have liked it.

FrankRabbit · 09/03/2021 14:46

@Angryandhurt 100% agree. The lies and deceit and the manipulation since make him unrecognisable to the person I married and thought I knew.
I hope you are doing as OK as you can be at the moment. Big hugs sent.

PearsandPartridge · 10/03/2021 13:59

How's things @Angryandhurt ?? Been thinking of you! Thanks

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