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Past my ‘sell by’ date

40 replies

Windthroughthetrees · 14/02/2021 16:17

NC because SIL knows my regular name.

I don’t know what I expect to get from posting this! A little sympathy or a ‘woman up’ maybe… and a warning to younger MNers who are in bad relationships.

I’m 66. I’m legally married to my partner of 30 years. It’s a relationship that has always been one sided and volatile and I have absolutely no idea why I’ve stayed in it for so long. I’ve always known that he didn’t love me and was a cock lodger. He did do the whole love bombing thing at first and has reactivated that as and when he’s needed to over the years…combined with threats and refusal to leave. It’s been a mess.

He’s rarely worked and when he has it’s only been for a day or two a week. I’ve paid for everything and he’s not been prudent with my money, the only good thing I’ll say is that when his parents died he inherited a reasonable sum and did put that into the joint pot but he is (not so) slowly working his way through it. I inherited my family home and that is where we now live and the profit from selling my flat paid off the huge amount of accumulated debt and for renovations and furnishings etc.

The situation now is that he isn’t working at all and has no income. He is 63 so another 3 years until he gets his pension which won’t be full as he hasn’t paid much in, although we have paid up as many years as we could. I get my work and state pension and we live on that but he is expensive (cigarettes, drink, ‘best of’ everything etc) and, while he insists we have a budget, makes no attempt to stick to it.

I could just about put up with all this but there’s no love or affection from him and never has been. Physical affection only ever related to sex and that fizzled out about 15 years ago. He doesn’t even really speak to me unless he wants something done or to moan about something. We sit in separate rooms but do still sleep in the same bed (super king so no danger of physical contact). I don’t think he’s had affairs, certainly not recently. He’s always had a bit of an issue with erectile disfunction so I don’t think he’s that bothered.

I know that if I left him I wouldn’t find anyone else although I have had opportunities over the years that I didn’t take. I’m ‘good for my age’ and can pass as early 50’s on a good day and I’m ‘young minded’ whereas he is happy to just sit indoors and watch TV.

I’ve tried telling him I want a divorce but he just ignores me and carries on as if I haven’t said anything. He can be very stubborn, as an example the other day he got annoyed because he asked me something and I had my headphones on, I said that I had to as his TV was loud and I couldn’t hear my music; since then he’s watched TV by peering at subtitles with no sound, this may well go on for weeks. He over-reacts to any perceived criticism.

Sorry, I don’t even know what I’m asking really. I just don’t know how to extricate myself from this. If I do try I know it will turn nasty. I am so angry with my younger self that I didn’t have the nerve to get out of it when I could but he was extremely volatile and I just kept putting it off.

It’s really just the knowing that I’ll never have love or affection or sex again that is really getting me down. I have been lucky and had 3 genuinely loving relationships in my past and I cherish those. It’s the cuddles and the laughs and the non-sexual intimacy that I miss the most and it’s become unbearable that I’ll never have that again.

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Aquamarine1029 · 14/02/2021 16:21

Get a solicitor and get out of this disaster, op. It is in no way "too late" for you, so stop with that negativity right now. You have years and years left, so make them happy ones. I know several women who at your age left unhappy marriages, and the only regret they have is that they didn't do it sooner.

You only got one go at this life, make the best of it.

ThisTooShallBeFantastic · 14/02/2021 16:25

I'm sorry I don't see why you think you will never have love, affection or sex again? There's no sellby or cutoff date for this. My DF for instance got together with his DP when he was 82 and she was 80. They are very loving towards each other.

He doesn't have to agree to a divorce. I reckon you should see a solicitor and work out what you need to do to get rid of this cocklodger. It is NEVER too late OP. I'm not saying it will be easy but it is not too late.

comingintomyown · 14/02/2021 16:28

I agree and you don’t need his permission to split , forget talking to him just tell him it’s happening and do it. I’m not trivialising what that involves by the way

EarthSight · 14/02/2021 16:32

There are many women who become widows in their 60s & 70s. If you were in their shoes, would you simply give up? Would you think their life was over?

This isn't a neutral relationship, where some people are in danger of becoming bored or restless. This has gone into the negative, and has been there for decades. It takes away more than it gives and he doesn't seem bothered anymore. Why has he rarely worked?

dilly123 · 14/02/2021 16:34

Such a sad post OP, don't even think about not finding someone else right now.. although in the future someone as lovely as you sound will easily find a good guy! I'll bet in between that you will be much happier alone & finding yourself!

You deserve to be happy
As my wonderful late Dad would say.. "Life's not a rehearsal"

MagnoliaBeige · 14/02/2021 16:34

You could be stuck in the same situation for another 30 or 40 years if you don’t make changes. But if you find the courage to make a change, you’re way more likely to find happiness than if you stay put!

Guiltypleasures001 · 14/02/2021 16:39

I'm so sorry you are in this situation op

Possibly a starting point is to see where you stand legally, so quietly go see a solicitor, and start getting your ducks in a row knowledge is power Thanks

SorryStateOfAffairs · 14/02/2021 16:49

Oh my goodness, OP. One of my close friends is in her 60s and she kicked her useless alcoholic x out a few years ago.

Since then, she has been on youth hostelling /walking holidays with friends between 21 and, well, her age - she was the oldest but age was not an issue at all. She is also very young minded. She started and ran pre covid, a successful community choir that she set up at 60. She has a full and vibrant life!

She is single, yes, and I know she'd love to let someone but come on, you are getting absolutely nothing from this relationship now. Can you honestly say that being single would be worse than what you have now?

I'm mid 40s and single and have pretty much always been so. I expect to he single well into the future too. I know what I'd choose!

You're only 66!

Get him out and start living the life you should have been living for the past 30 years.

SummerBlondey · 14/02/2021 16:54

66 is not old!

My FIL met his Partner on on-line dating, when he was 69. They are still going strong 3 years later, and are now making plans to move in together, and (post covid), do loads of travelling.

My neighbours met and married at 70. It was a stunning wedding, age was not mentioned once!

It's time to man-up and get the wheels in motion for divorce. You most likely have at least another 20 years left, do you want to carry on like this?

It may seem insurmountable, but it really isn't. I left a 20 year marriage, and ExH did not want to split ....you have to just keep pushing forward regardless. I'm now married to someone else, and it's great.

Your 60's should be carefree and full of adventures that you couldn't have when you were tied down with work and commitments.

Come on!!

ThreeTwoOneBlastOff · 14/02/2021 16:55

The only person who can change something here is you. You are certainly not too old to do this. Do you really want another 20+ years of the same life? You’ll regret that more.

Windthroughthetrees · 14/02/2021 16:57

Thank you all ❤️

I’m so used to this situation that it’s so helpful to see it from an outside view. I haven’t really talked about this to my friend , just a few hints. I’m seeing her for a walk tomorrow so will show her this and ask her to help me.

EarthSight he rarely works because he’s a lazy, entitled man child who thinks the usual rules don’t apply to him!

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FangsForTheMemory · 14/02/2021 17:00

My darling, you deserve better than this! Even if you don't meet someone else, a happy life of your own choosing would be infinitely better than having to share with this arsehole. You need a shit hot solicitor. Work out what sort of life you would like and go for it. I wish you all the best.

Windthroughthetrees · 14/02/2021 17:04

If I can just ask, we do have a solicitor who has dealt with our affairs - Wills, Deeds, etc - but I would feel awkward talking to him. Would it be usual to consult a different solicitor or would I be better using one that knows our circumstances?

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Timpeall · 14/02/2021 17:06

OP, your post made me so sad. You sound like a wonderful person and it's awful that you've wasted decades on this absolute waste of space. Cut him free and enjoy the next 20 years. You may meet someone else, you may not. But you will be happier when he is gone from your life. I understand that it might be hard to imagine your life without him but do try.

V0rtex2021 · 14/02/2021 17:14

Nobody is passed their sell by date until they die !

Potentially, you have 20 more years

Start planning your exit & divorce today

There is a whole other world waiting for you to enjoy

Windthroughthetrees · 14/02/2021 17:17

I’ve never been single for any appreciable length of time since 1974 so I don’t know how I’d get on but realistically I suppose I might as well be single right now really because there’s no companionship.

We do go on holidays when he is usually nicer - but he always behaves better when there is an audience.

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ThisTooShallBeFantastic · 14/02/2021 17:19

I'd get in there and use the solicitor you know for at least an initial chat. You may find they feel they have a conflict of interest, or that they are not sufficiently shit hot at divorce situations, but it may make it easier to broach the issue first time with someone you know.

Agree with PP, while it's not too late to find love etc, it's also not the most important thing is it? You're already lonely and alone, effectively.
Surely freedom, independence and being authentically your own person are what you need most after 30 years of sleepwalking?

Timpeall · 14/02/2021 17:20

Being single can be fab. Certainly better than the prison of a relationship you're currently in.

MackenCheese · 14/02/2021 17:23

I second what everyone else has said. I can relate to your lack of affection and just good times with someone on the same wavelength. I'm 55 this year and ex has just left. No one knows what the future holds. Be strong. There is plenty of life yet to be lived!

Aquamarine1029 · 14/02/2021 17:32

Single is far better than with a man who makes you so unhappy.

Timpeall · 14/02/2021 17:33

Single is so underrated.

OldWomanSaysThis · 14/02/2021 17:39

You all both seem stuck in quicksand.
You could just keep going with the status quo until someone dies.
Or, you could unstick yourself and see what else is out there.

Eviebeans · 14/02/2021 17:41

Get some advice about your options - don't waste another day. You have lots of life to live. If you start to wobble remember that a man who hasn't contributed very much at all or coped with a stressful work life could have an awful lot of years left in him - every single one of them subsidised by you. Good luck and let us know how things go 😊

wewereliars · 14/02/2021 17:44

Hi OP Well done for realising that you need to change, now make it happen. Your current solicitor will not be able to act for you in the divorce if s/he's acted for your husband at any time past. They should be able to point you in the right direction though and give advice in broad terms . Good luck, your future us up to you x

user1471538283 · 14/02/2021 17:47

This is so sad. You could be dragging him around for another 30 years and end up having to care for him! What if you are sick? Would he care for you?

I would leave now whilst you can. You can still have a wonderful life. You are miserable with him so you could at least be as miserable but financially secure without him. I bet you wont be though. I bet you will thrive!

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