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Past my ‘sell by’ date

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Windthroughthetrees · 14/02/2021 16:17

NC because SIL knows my regular name.

I don’t know what I expect to get from posting this! A little sympathy or a ‘woman up’ maybe… and a warning to younger MNers who are in bad relationships.

I’m 66. I’m legally married to my partner of 30 years. It’s a relationship that has always been one sided and volatile and I have absolutely no idea why I’ve stayed in it for so long. I’ve always known that he didn’t love me and was a cock lodger. He did do the whole love bombing thing at first and has reactivated that as and when he’s needed to over the years…combined with threats and refusal to leave. It’s been a mess.

He’s rarely worked and when he has it’s only been for a day or two a week. I’ve paid for everything and he’s not been prudent with my money, the only good thing I’ll say is that when his parents died he inherited a reasonable sum and did put that into the joint pot but he is (not so) slowly working his way through it. I inherited my family home and that is where we now live and the profit from selling my flat paid off the huge amount of accumulated debt and for renovations and furnishings etc.

The situation now is that he isn’t working at all and has no income. He is 63 so another 3 years until he gets his pension which won’t be full as he hasn’t paid much in, although we have paid up as many years as we could. I get my work and state pension and we live on that but he is expensive (cigarettes, drink, ‘best of’ everything etc) and, while he insists we have a budget, makes no attempt to stick to it.

I could just about put up with all this but there’s no love or affection from him and never has been. Physical affection only ever related to sex and that fizzled out about 15 years ago. He doesn’t even really speak to me unless he wants something done or to moan about something. We sit in separate rooms but do still sleep in the same bed (super king so no danger of physical contact). I don’t think he’s had affairs, certainly not recently. He’s always had a bit of an issue with erectile disfunction so I don’t think he’s that bothered.

I know that if I left him I wouldn’t find anyone else although I have had opportunities over the years that I didn’t take. I’m ‘good for my age’ and can pass as early 50’s on a good day and I’m ‘young minded’ whereas he is happy to just sit indoors and watch TV.

I’ve tried telling him I want a divorce but he just ignores me and carries on as if I haven’t said anything. He can be very stubborn, as an example the other day he got annoyed because he asked me something and I had my headphones on, I said that I had to as his TV was loud and I couldn’t hear my music; since then he’s watched TV by peering at subtitles with no sound, this may well go on for weeks. He over-reacts to any perceived criticism.

Sorry, I don’t even know what I’m asking really. I just don’t know how to extricate myself from this. If I do try I know it will turn nasty. I am so angry with my younger self that I didn’t have the nerve to get out of it when I could but he was extremely volatile and I just kept putting it off.

It’s really just the knowing that I’ll never have love or affection or sex again that is really getting me down. I have been lucky and had 3 genuinely loving relationships in my past and I cherish those. It’s the cuddles and the laughs and the non-sexual intimacy that I miss the most and it’s become unbearable that I’ll never have that again.

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RandomMess · 14/02/2021 17:47

You serve divorce papers and quick before he burns through the rest of any money there is.

It will get split 50:50 and he may have a claim on your pension unfortunately.

Will 50% of the house equity be enough for you to buy a smaller home with outright?

Windthroughthetrees · 14/02/2021 17:48

I love you all so much ❤️❤️

I’ve been turning all this over in my head for a long time but I was reading a thread today about a lady of 61 who’s husband has had an affair and I found myself wishing that mine would have an affair and go off with the OW. It made me think but I know I need a push.

I do say things to my two ‘best’ friends but I always turn them into a joke so they don’t think I’m serious, it’s my way of coping.

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SeaShoreGalore · 14/02/2021 17:54

You only get one life.

Windthroughthetrees · 14/02/2021 17:58

RandomMess.
I think that if all went well we could end up with 200k each so I could probably afford a small flat (am in the South East) which I would be quite happy with. It will though be very hard work to get him to sell the house!

Him getting a chunk of my pension would be tricky but I’m a person of pretty simple tastes so I would probably be able to cope. I’d blooming well resent it though!

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hereyehearye · 14/02/2021 18:02

I'm in my thirties so I can say this with no bias: 66 is not old. It's really not. You could live another 30 years.

Don't bother with regrets - just get out.

Landofthefree · 14/02/2021 18:03

@Windthroughthetrees my guess if that your friends already know that you are unhappy in your marriage. If they are true friends they will be supportive and kind when you tell them you are getting divorced.

One of my close friends was in a similar marriage to yours. I was secretly so delighted when she told me she was leaving her miserable, bad tempered, overspending husband. She’s much happier being single and you will be too.

Windthroughthetrees · 14/02/2021 18:20

Landofthefree

I think you’re right. They’re probably just waiting for me to stop turning it into a sitcom. I’m definitely showing this to one friend tomorrow, I’ve known her since we were 11 so I know I can trust her!

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Tyredofallthis1 · 14/02/2021 18:21

My late father had an epic romantic life into his eighties. I only know about the romance, didn't ask about anything else.

And he was respectful, polite and dated age appropriate His funeral was full of ladies around his age who really liked him. Plenty of those who were a similar in age to you. Plenty of the ladies also had great romantic lives (I know them from church, I'm not asking about anything else).

When the phrase is used correctly, age is just a number. It didn't slow down my late father or his contemporaries. It may not be as easy as in the 20s, but it's not impossible.

And apart from the romance thing, so many people have awesome lives going into 60s, 70s and 80s!

I hope that everything works out for you no matter what you decide.

RandomMess · 14/02/2021 18:33

He can't stop you divorcing him and he can't stop you forcing sale of the property.

As he has put the inheritance in the marital pit what can you do to stop him spending it? Can it be invested at all? I say this because both of you will need it not to deprive him.

IstandwithJackieWeaver · 14/02/2021 18:33

I'm divorced and in my forties. I remember reading that there is nothing lonelier than an unhappy marriage and it's so true. When you are on your own you seek out the people and things that make you happy and ultimately make you feel fulfilled. We get one, pretty short life and it's never too late to make a change that makes you happy.

Windthroughthetrees · 14/02/2021 18:46

RandomMess

We have half of it in 3 year Bonds which have just been renewed so have over 2 years to run so they’re safe. The other half is in ISAs. In both cases he has a little more than me because I pay tax and he doesn’t.

I think the most he could do is take money out of his ISA but he likes squirrelling money away so I doubt he’ll do that!

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RandomMess · 14/02/2021 18:52

Phew.

Just crack on and think up your list of unreasonable behaviours and get divorce papers served.

Remind him the more he delays and argues the less money he will end up with to buy a new place!

Wanderlusto · 14/02/2021 18:54

@Timpeall

Single is so underrated.
This.

To me whether or not you will 'find love again' is irrelevant. Or it should be. It seems like maybe a fear of being alone has kept you with this asshole. And still is.

You are healthy, you could have years of travel and adventures ahead of you. And maybe you'll meet someone new to share those times with. Butbif you don't, theres nothing wrong with being single You'll get to spend your money on you. And spend your free time doing what you like. And just being happy and free.

Choose yourself.

Arrivederla · 14/02/2021 19:00

I would see a different solicitor, one who specialises in divorce and family law. Some - but not all - will give you 30 minutes free initial consultation.

You might want to speak to more than one before you make your decision on who to go with; the fantastic solicitor who I used was the 3rd one I saw and I really felt that he had my back all the way through the process.

Oh, and I was 58 when I split up with exh and am now living very happily on my own at 61.

ThisTooShallBeFantastic · 14/02/2021 19:38

Yes, 30 years of cocklodging is your ‘unreasonable behaviour’ grounds right there!

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