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Does he really thing saying this is helpful

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Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 13:32

Backstory, DP travels for work, was away for first lockdown which was all manner of hell, we had a semi break for a few weeks at the end of the year as he ‘discovered’ things which he blew out of proportion from a few years ago. All fine we decided it was worth working through it as he’d lied about certain things which I felt forgiveable under the circumstances so as neither of us are perfect we would live with that fact.

He is working away still and can’t come back due to the restrictions / quarantine so it’s easier for him to stay were he is as getting back to where is from the U.K. is a challenge and work is time sensitive. It’ possible, but to be honest it’s all very complicated but still possible but he’s chosen not to because of the quarantine times. Fine I understand that but before our falling out he absolutely would have back sure if he could be back he would.
I’ve not seen him in a very long time so when the day before he was due to arrive, so but not sorry no. I get the situation around travelling right now but the constant last minute changes to everyone scheduling because of his decisions are a constant and preceded Covid. Also the fact he would always be back if remotely possible.

This morning I had an absolute meltdown, power out, water, heating etc has gone and faffing and fussing to get it fixed, two vulnerable children and one physically disabled one (they aren’t his), and I got upset with him as if he sense I’m upset he disappears. Spoke to him and it ended up in me saying it wasn’t going to work with this set up and he refuses to make the time and effort etc, his response was he feel less motivation because of what I apparently did, and when I interjected to tell him he was still wrong about what he thinks went on (I went out with friends and drank too much and DIDNT have a bloody affair) I was told to
F off so I hung up.

I always end up feel small pathetic and needy but I’m having real actual life challenges and have zero remote support just get told it’s all out of everyone s control so I won’t dwell. Easy enough when lockdown doesn’t impact in any way, I may very few demands and understand the travel that’s not the issue.

I am finding it hard to put into words what the actual problem is to be honest but being told to ef off because of something he thinks happens but sort of admits he could be wrong is really deflating.

I’m at my wits end and so angry but not a normal kind of angry as I’ve never been in this situation before.

I think lockdown is making me insane and I think maybe someone can shed some light, he’s being a bit of a bastard. I thought we were doing ok but the comment about well I have less motivation after what you did has really made me sit up. We aren’t obviously speaking now as he doesn’t like it when I get angry. I don’t like it when I get angry it’s out of character but it’s the same shit with him and in day out. He’s hugely avoidant which compounds matters.

My god that was long.

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alanpartridgefromtheoasthouse · 27/01/2021 13:34

It sounds like it has run its course to be honest.

alanpartridgefromtheoasthouse · 27/01/2021 13:35

And I'm sorry you're going through this! It doesn't sound easy.

Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 13:39

Yes I feel less and less upset by the tantrums and sulking which is a shame as we have an amazing relationship but the lifestyle choices and decisions to work abroad - I was told whilst was happening - have become exhausting.

I have invested huge amounts of time and energy into this and just get it thrown back in my face at every opportunity. We both make some serious errors of judgement but nobody had an affair - well I certainly bloody didn’t god knows what else he was lying about. But to treat me with such disdain during one of the most challenging periods of my life makes me just think he is just another a*hole. Which is a shame as I love home but not like this.

He’s told me to F off twice the first during the throes of the beginning of the ‘break’ after which he cried. And this is the second.

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Justcallmebebes · 27/01/2021 13:41

He's going to use it as a stick to beat you with for evermore. I can understand difficulties in travelling and maybe returning home at the moment but he's not offering any sort of support at all, not even an ear to bend and then bringing up your imagined "transgression" when you're struggling is pretty low.

Cockenspiel · 27/01/2021 13:45

What are you getting out of this 'relationship?'

It sounds like such a waste of everyone's time and energy.

If he wanted to be with you, he move have moved mountains to get back, he hasn't so you need to accept that is only a partial relationship.

If I was you, I would end it and stop wasting months (years) on this tedious and useless twat.

Sorry to be so blunt OP, but you deserve better Flowers

Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 13:47

Not just that he made a point of getting to see other people because he wouldn’t see them for a few months, that’s fine it’s family but then to say oh with you I lost much motivation because of what you did what pretty shitty.

I feel shit. I lost my job due to Covid so going crazy with that as I am not used to not working, been applying non stop and working on other projects I have no time for so don’t get much done, homeschooling I exhausting as I’m not a sen teacher so we try as much as we can. I know it’s hard for many but when the people around you are having a whale of a time it’s really disheartening especially when those people are supposed to be your people! Feels good to write it down as I’m so upset. I feel like screaming. I have never had mental health issues but this feels like the start of something that. I’m angry with ermine and the situation and I live in a very noisy area and nobody has any respect for anyone else so that just makes me feel even more miserable and of course one can’t complain!

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Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 13:50

@Cockenspiel sadly you are right, he’s always made monumental efforts for us to be together even if it means me flying half way to meet him because of time constraints now it’s just oh well these are the quarantines times and can’t get back in from U.K. etc etc - legally he can as he is working remotely so yes as much as I don’t want to accept it it’s an excuse. He outright refused to see me at all over the holidays and disappeared to family as he needed ‘space’ to process what I did. It’s now been months and what happened years.

And yes having it brought up constantly is utterly mind numbing exhausting.

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 27/01/2021 13:51

It sounds like there isn't much there, sadly. He's no support to you, he's chosen to be elsewhere, he's dragging up ancient history while you forgive his...

I would guess that he wants out but doesn't have the balls to say so, so he's just being a useless boyfriend until you end it.

withmycoffee · 27/01/2021 13:54

Because of what you did??? You mean when you went out and got drunk and DID NOT have an affair.??? You know this is a list cause don't you? He sounds ridiculous.

Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 13:57

He was apparently completely onboard with getting things back on track after telling me that whilst he loves me he can’t get over it and that I am minimising makes him angry. Giving someone the correct version of events is not minimising it’s being honest. He claims I said something different after a couple of drinks but what he told me I said is so wrong it would be laughable if this wasn’t the situation. Does anyone ever say shit when drunk which is wildly inaccurate I do all the time but he is in the in vino veritable camp

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Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 13:58

Veritas*

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merryhouse · 27/01/2021 14:13

Okay, listen:

you're never going to get him to admit you didn't cheat

Why that should be so: who knows, who cares. Whether he actually disbelieves you: who knows, who cares. Whether he actually cheated: who knows, who cares. Whether he still loves you or not: who knows, who cares.

The facts of the matter are these: he's being no help and he's being horrible. You will be actively better off without him.

You're attempting to look after three vulnerable children, to give some semblance of an education to three children, to find another job in a decidedly unsympathetic climate and to hold yourself together despite all this. You simply don't have the time to worry about what he's thinking.

Tell him that when he eventually comes back he'll have to find somewhere else to live and you don't want to see him again. Then start packing up his stuff. Leave it in a corner of the room, cover it with a blanket, maybe see if any of his family can pick it up.

Is the household at all reliant on his finances? You'll need to get that unpicked and get benefits sorted.

I'm sounding horribly practical and insensitive I know. Sorry.

Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 14:19

Oh we don’t live together and I am financially indepenedant although that’s another issue if I don’t find work.

That’s another thing if we don’t live to where but have been together for years what support should be be offering .

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 27/01/2021 14:20

It isn't lockdown affecting your reasoning or mental health. But you know that.

Take him at his word and fuck right off. Concentrate on yourself and the kids without his selfishness making things worse.

Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 14:30

I am too old for the games but imma resilient old hag when he isn’t making me feel utterly worthless with his ‘old fashioned’ views in that I shouldn’t complain or voice a negative opinion as that’s seen as defective thinking. My father is exactly the bloody same!

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Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 14:32

He is also the only adult I speak to these days. It’s so depressing and I’m so isolated. I have no friends anymore!

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BornIn78 · 27/01/2021 14:38

It sounds like whatever he thinks went on with the drunk episode/admission (I can't make head nor tail of most of your post tbh) signalled the end of the relationship for him, but he's too gutless to come out and tell you properly that it's over.

Do both of you a favour, put yourselves out of your respective miseries and end it.

There's nothing left to salvage.

Santaiscovidfree · 27/01/2021 14:41

Take control. Tell him you have filed for divorce.
Do it op.
Your relationship is dead in the water...

Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 14:42

I get that, but after three months of ‘space’ and deep thinking he now really wants to make it work. I said it’s too much and that he doesn’t seem to care, so what is the point if nothing changes which is what triggered the angry outburst

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Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 14:46

He appears to think that now he’s given me the honour of being with him I have to do what he says and if it doesn’t work for me well the F off.

He was never like this and even recently has been very different. I thought he was having a breakdown at one point ... a remote one of course. He wasn’t worrying about me though but I caht he’ll worry about him

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Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 14:46

Can’t help, typing to careless

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BeanieB2020 · 27/01/2021 14:51

Manipulative gas lighters use the "I can't get over what you did" line when you haven't done anything as a control tactic to make you feel bad and sorry for doing something that only happened in their minds. They're very good at it, making a minor or nonexistent issue out to be the main problem when actually they are the problem. It's a cover designed to take all the blame for relationship falling apart off them.

Leave him. This isn't worth it.

Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 15:03

This is an interesting view, one I hadn’t thought of.

He’s really angry with me still it seems as I apparently broke the connection which is utter shite, I did no such thing.

I get nothing out of this right now and he is only responsive if I pander you his sulks. I don’t want the relationship to end and he was to come back for a few days so we could see how things are having not seen each other since this break. Now that he caht because of the new restrictions from the U.K. he is saying it’s not possible. It’s is but it adds quarantine time. I am
Certain if it was something beneficial to him he’s do it and for that reason alone I also want to tell him to
F off. But I am betting on potential here, as all smart woman do. Said no one ever.

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merryhouse · 27/01/2021 15:13

These two statements together:

I get nothing out of this right now... ... I don’t want the relationship to end

You're actually getting less than nothing. You will be better off.

Once you're out and don't have to think about him any more (and you know, you really really really aren't obliged to at all) then you can concentrate on things like how to find friends and what you actually do want out of life.

You don't actually need to know why he's a git.

Snackinginthebath · 27/01/2021 17:38

Sounds silly can please break it down for me as I always give in and apologise and spend hours agreeing that yes I’m terrible and I should be more mindful of my behaviour

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