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How to communicate with an angry, resentful spouse

76 replies

medlenno · 26/01/2021 13:53

My husband of many years and father to our two children is increasingly angry and resentful of me and won't communicate over it and won't allow me to do things to help either. He fights fire with nuclear weapons, his body language is bristling and unfriendly and he's started to make odd comments about me ("Jesus look at your glutes" "your hair looks better now it's longer" that feel like compliments but not at the same time.

We both work part time, he in an office over night 2 nights, me very shifts 4 days a week from home.

Just today he really blasted me but sadly my work microphone was on so they heard:

(I offered to do a shop - he likes to make a big thing of me never shopping despite the fact that I pick up food (veg from market, toilettries, housestuff etc from other places and other household stuff probably once a day pre pandemic) as well as doing shops probably half the number of times he does)

He had tense body language and tension in his voice saying that we needed:
washing stuff
tinned tomatoes
dishwasher stuff
meat,
dried goods,
loo roll --- going on previous flare ups he rattles off this list because "I won't pick these things up properly, the dates will be not long enough you name it, it'll be wrong

I am working (hi intensity stuff, on permanent TEAMS call, 3 computer screens, have to ask permission to leave desk for loo etc) and was curt and felt attacked a little by the list and said: I get the message

He kicked off with: Well you can go your F*CKING SELF shouted really angrily which sadly my colleagues heard since I wasn't on mute. No one said anything but I felt dreadful, muted and had a little cry to gather myself.

He brought me up the lunch I had made y'day and banged it down. Cue me having another cry (muted)

He then said he was going to the supermarket (leaving me with 2 children in the house while still on shift) and I offered to go, saying in as conciliatory way as possible that I really don't mind, you do it often, if it helps I am happy to go...

He replied: "You need to run," (to which I replied it doesn't matter I can later) "you need to interact with your children" (that one hover in the background alot) take xx out for her exercise

I offered again, was refused, said it was unfair if I offer to do thing thing but am not allowed.

"All I want if for you to be civil to me" "You need to sort your anger out, the way you speak to people, others have commented....."

It's the same with laundry, I don;'t do it, if I do I do it badly, Laundry baskets are slammed down next to me, with this heavy sighing etc. But if I offer to do I am challenged. It's like he wants to be this martyr ad I can't take that from him (very like his mother)

By the way if you knew me you clearly see I go mental over tidying - I actually always have loved cooking and cleaning and sewing and DIY and it soothed my childhood when things were bad, so I actively love it. I do woodworking and painting and DIY etc, I earn the same, engineered my work so I'd hardly miss being there for the children.

He is suffering clearly, feels rudderless and has done nothing to talk about loss of his father a few years back and come to terms with his bad relationship with his mother. He won't talk to me though. If I am a good girl everything is fine.

He's has always been generally dismissive and avoidant but he never used to be so unkind or been told I'm 'mad' 'irritable' or whatever defensive slingshot he chooses. If I were to cry he'd roll his eyes now.
If anything is lost it is immediately my fault.

I met him after a really bad time after I'd done a year abroad and was raped. He was there for me, kind and helpful. We were big partiers back then - maybe because I was vulnerable and somewhat pissed a lot I didn't notice the powerplay.

I don't drink now (he does heavily 50 60 units although would deny it) and am very into running and looking after myself - I think that has turned the dynamic and because I am sober I notice stuff more, plus I am older and stand up for myself.

I always make the conciliatory gestures, always say sorry (the word has never passed his in a non sarcastic way)

I am not blameless, I have explained why I have been upset to my children - this isn't good, my mum did it with me, ity' not their job to regulate me, but in lieu of any other genuine reason tpo explain why I am crying I've been honest. I've stressed that it is okay - that it's about communication and we can always learn from these mistakes. But still I hate that I have gone down this route,

I'm sad - it's like watching someone slip through your fingers, you love them but cannot speak to them. I hope he still loves me, right now he's too angry to show it,

Anyway, I;ve been told almost daily I talk too much.;)

OP posts:
RandomMess · 26/01/2021 18:34

Also start labelling him as the functioning alcoholic he is.

Look at AA and read up. Protect your DC from him.

Weirdfan · 26/01/2021 18:44

This is a free pdf of the Lundy Bancroft book OP, I agree you will find your DH described to a tee in the 'types of abusive men' section www.docdroid.net/py03/why-does-he-do-that-pdf

Chiccie · 26/01/2021 22:48

@Yorkshirehillbilly that sounds like a really tough situation to be in. Did he leave willingly? What happened? Did he find somebody else?

SeahorseoramI · 26/01/2021 22:54

He is suffering clearly. If I am a good girl everything is fine.

This was awful to read. Even the language you use to describe yourself shows how he has control. And everyone is suffering here because of him.

MaKe a plan to leave. As soon as possible.

medlenno · 27/01/2021 10:44

Hi - thanks for the pdf which I am rattling through. his entitlement, defensive

Later on I offered - without tension in my voice or aggressive body language - to do the shopping since I acknowledged it was a burden, but without eye contact he refused, told me sharply I "needed to go for a run" (implying I am emotionally on the edge and need to do exercise). It's like if I take away the burden, he wouldn't have something to feel a martyr about.

I remember his mentionitis over laundry one day and said "I will do all of the laundry from now on if we promise each other not to talk about it again" but no., he has even barged me out the way to hang it up if I am hanging it. He wants to have this idea that He Does Everything.

When I raised the swearing while I'm on a call, he snarled: "I only want you to be civil to me" The mental gymnastics are something else.

This morning I had (genuinely) forgotten to empty the dishwasher - it honestly wasn't some passive aggressive tactic, I'd baked bread and gone for a run at 6am before work.
I could tell he was shirty because of the banging down of stuff and I apologised, he said (without eye contact) that he didn't mind but the body language was the opposite. I helped with the rest and went back upstairs.

I remember an argument ages ago where I said I couldn;'t live like this, never raise anything without being obliterated and he threatened that he would say I was drug addicted or abusive so I wouldn't be able to have the children.

Everytime I think I am a shrew or horrid I must remember that. I don't think I could ever ever say that to someone.

Thanks again - he is a weak man. Can't admit being anything less than blameless and so turns everything onto me.

Other than that he is not controlling about where I go but I do look back and realise that he has disparaged my friends (sometimes to the point where I agree with him) and bit by bit they have fallen away.

He is generous with presents, very hands on with the children and does alot and all things going smoothly is kind and non-violent.

OP posts:
Embracelife · 27/01/2021 13:29

Do you have a drug addiction?

Embracelife · 27/01/2021 13:29

The sly undermining cuts you off
It s very clever

OhioOhioOhio · 27/01/2021 13:33

Please go to the police and tell them. They will help you. Thry helped me. My xh tried all of that too.

Embracelife · 27/01/2021 13:33

and does alot and all things going smoothly is kind and non-violent.

It is all conditional on you doing as he wishes

You make him shout in his view

It is his behaviour his choice

OhioOhioOhio · 27/01/2021 13:43

Yeah. That's the staggering part. It has nothing to do with his temper.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 27/01/2021 13:49

You deserve better than this.

tatkin · 27/01/2021 15:21

Medlenno here

No, I don’t have a drug addiction. I barely drink and am into running and sports.

Pre children we both had dabbled and we certainly drank more than the govt recommended amount.

We have good jobs and met at university. He has never demeaned my intelligence (we both went to oxford) but he always corrects my infelicities because i once said it is ‘such as’ instead of ‘like’ years ago. I will never be allowed to forget being a dick on that occasion

OhioOhioOhio · 27/01/2021 15:28

Yeah. It's not normal and it's on purpose op. How best can we help you? I was you. There are lots of us on here.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 27/01/2021 15:36

When you have decided how you will move on remember, your colleagues are now all witnesses to his behaviour.

You will have much more support than you might think.

You do need to start making steps to remove yourself and the kids from this, it sounds really awful.

tatkin · 27/01/2021 15:57

I cant shake the feeling that i’m making a mountain out of a molehill and offshoring my responsibility for things on him and that’s normal pissed offness

Embracelife · 27/01/2021 16:02

@tatkin

I cant shake the feeling that i’m making a mountain out of a molehill and offshoring my responsibility for things on him and that’s normal pissed offness
It s not sonething you should cchoose to live with You are not enjoying it Your colleagues did not enjoy seeing you shouted at and sworn at They are thinking he is a twat They are thinking why does she put up with this

They are not thinking that you deserved it
He wont change

You have a choice to leave.

Silenceisgolden20 · 27/01/2021 16:03

He isn't kind. Not one bit.
The times when you think he's being kind hes not, it's part of the game. To keep you hooked. He knows the game and he knows what hes doing.
Stop apologising to him. Stop seeing a good side, there is non. It's not the real him.
Start your reading on abusive behaviours. Start your planning. Start your support.
You need to get to a 'light bulb' moment when the scales fall from your eyes. You're not there yet. But you will be if you keep seeing him for what he is. Keep a journal. Keep noticing the pattern.

RandomMess · 27/01/2021 16:13

His behaviour is really awful!!!

You are the frog in boiling water analogy. It's crept up over years so you can't step back and see how abusive he is.

He is doing it to put you a strong independent down and he can be top dog. He will never regard you as his equal.

eyeslikebutterflies · 27/01/2021 16:32

OP, the way he behaves is not normal. It's not the normal 'pissed-off-ness' that you see in every relationship. It's NOT YOU. It's 100% him.

I hope you find the strength to leave him, and have the happy and uncomplicated life you deserve.

RandomMess · 27/01/2021 16:50

He has you tip toeing around trying to not provoke him! That is no way to live.

NCAnon · 27/01/2021 17:07

NC for this as DH has a habit of finding me on here and (yes, you guessed it) he is abusive and in similar ways to your DH OP. My reason for posting is that whilst I know mine is abusive and I recognise some patterns in your post even I am shocked by what you're describing, it's as far away from 'normal piss-offness as it's possible to be.

I'm past the point of questioning myself, I know what I'm seeing and experiencing and I know I'm not to blame, now how can we help you come to the same realisation? I haven't worked out how I'm going to do what I know I have to do yet but at least I'm not driving myself mad trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong anymore, it's not me it's him.

HelenUrth · 27/01/2021 22:30

He is a disgrace as a man.
He is a disgrace as a husband.
He is especially a disgrace as a father.
This is what your children are growing up to think a father is. If you have a son, he will treat his wife like this. If you have a daughter, she will be at high risk of being abused.

What happened in your own childhood, OP, that you are accepting this appalling behaviour?

billy1966 · 28/01/2021 00:12

He is utter scum and you are an abused woman.

Please send the email to your colleagues apologising for what they heard.

Create a paper trail.

Call Women's Aid.

Call 101.

Get advice.

Make a plan.

Reach out to those that will support you.

Flowers
Justtryingtobehelpful · 28/01/2021 08:55

Read How He Gets Into Her Head by Dan Hennessey. It'll help you

OhioOhioOhio · 28/01/2021 09:47

That sounds like a helpful read. I might check it out myself.