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Red flag? Fixable?

34 replies

BathFullOfEels · 03/01/2021 14:39

I separated from exdh officially at the end of 2019 although we’d been living separately for about 6 months before that. No real drama, just fallen out of love, no intimacy, decided it was better for dc if we had a good divorce rather than a bad marriage.

I’ve been seeing a man since about February although obviously been a bit difficult due to COVID. He lives about 2 hours away and we had been seeing each other 1-2 days a week while we were allowed. He’s really lovely and the complete opposite of my ex - laid back, funny, outgoing, interesting, really clever and talented. He also has 2 dc who he has 50% of the time. His wife left him 5 years ago for another man who she is still with. She asked him to leave and then moved this man into the house they had lived in (which had been his childhood home he’d grown up in and had been left to him in his parents will) the same day. He was completely blindsided by this, claims he had no clue she was cheating, thought they were really happy and had a complete breakdown over the next year. Apparently he lost 3 stone and his brother had to come and look after him as he was on suicide watch. He said he’d never really understood mental health issues until that happened to him and that he is now very careful to look after his mental health and make sure he does enough exercise, hobbies, takes time for himself etc. All totally understandable and he told me all about this on about our third date as he said he wanted me to understand his background.

He doesn’t really mention his ex wife much day to day. If he’s telling an anecdote about something they did, somewhere they went together it’s all very detached and unemotional. He’s not really had a ‘proper’ relationship since the end of his marriage. He said there was a woman he worked with and they got on well and would occasionally ‘hook up’ together over the course of a couple of years but it was never anything official. He hasn’t said that he loves me but we’ve both said we see a future together and right now we seem to make each other very happy.

But...whenever he’s had more than a couple of glasses of wine he just talks about his ex wife non-stop. How he proposed to her, how they got together, how he will never, ever get over her breaking his heart. He told me that he feels like he has to walk around everyday and try and live a normal life when he’s got a knife in his heart, that everything and everyone reminds him of what she did to him. He seems more fixated on the betrayal rather than on her, as such.

I have had some pretty horrific things happen to me in my life that he is unaware of. I do understand totally how he feels. I know there are things in life that you simply can’t get over, no matter how hard you try. But you have to learn to live with them and eventually you do. I’ve tried telling him this. He apologises and says that he knows I’m the wrong person to talk to about this but appreciates that I understand, he’ll just talk to his mates/ counsellor about it in future. Then next time he has a bit to drink he does it again.

He doesn’t often drink that much. Maybe once a month or so and he claims to not really remember in the morning. I really like him but I don’t know if I’m wasting my time on someone who is still in love with someone else. Or maybe he’s not in love and just hurting?

I don’t know, it all seems such a mess.

OP posts:
BathFullOfEels · 03/01/2021 22:41

raidblunner I think you’re probably right. I don’t want to be someone’s distraction. I was married to someone who was clearly in love with someone else for years, I can’t be arsed doing that again

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Techway · 03/01/2021 23:00

It might be worth asking what are his regrets? What does he think will help him to heal?

I can't seecwhy he gave up the house, assume he had legal representation? It seems he is not living his life but more living in the past.

How did you meet?

Sunflower1970 · 04/01/2021 00:42

Give him a chance. It’s not his fault he’s had a dagger through his heart. When I first met my husband he spent part of our first date telling me about the death of his young wife and he got very upset! Her clothes were dtilll hanging in his wardrobe 8 years after she died. I felt like running for the hills, it Took a while but we have been together 12 years, very happily married and shit happens to people. If it’s a relationship that’s worth keeping you can work through past traumas together x

MrsDoctorDear · 04/01/2021 00:50

It's been 5 years and he's still so bitter.

Doesn't sound healthy to me, and it's not up to you to find a resolution and try to fix him.

I'd call it a day.

Lovelydiscusfish · 04/01/2021 03:27

My ex was like this, and is now actually back with said ex-wife he spoke about all the time.

TuxedoPantherSheHer · 04/01/2021 05:56

Sounds like he’s traumatised. He’s not over the damage it has done to him. I think you need to let him go.

nosswith · 04/01/2021 13:11

I don't think it is fixable, painful as that may be.

lovemenot · 04/01/2021 16:22

I think he's fixable, but not by you. A good chat to highlight how those drunken episodes make YOU feel might be enough to send him back to counselling again.

Sounds like he was totally blindsided by her and her cocklodger - that's a huge thing to have to get over. It all depends on how much he wants to.

Best piece of advise I ever got - get angry, don't get bitter. Bitterness eats you up from the inside.

gannett · 04/01/2021 16:51

I think you need to tell him, directly and when he's sober and when you're both calm, that you don't want to hear these outpourings - and tell him it's because of how it makes you feel (like you're not good enough, etc), not because you're unsympathetic. And then if your time with him looks like going down that path - at the first hint of alcohol, before he gets drunk - remind him. And then you don't have to listen for hours on end. You can get up and go to bed.

No one is being unreasonable in this situation - it sounds like he's hurting, not pining. And he's already told you he understands that you're not an appropriate venting board - so putting your foot down about it shouldn't be an issue. He should definitely be spilling those guts to a counsellor or friend, if he isn't already.

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