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Are my feelings Valid?

55 replies

tigerem · 03/01/2021 14:13

Hi all, I’m new here and know its not the place to make a decision for me but I could do with some other people input here to know if my feelings are valid… I will try to keep it short but there is quite a lot of history.

A little background, Me and boyfriend have been together 7 years, a couple of breakups in between from quite big problems like not being there when I had an ectopic and that I should just get over it to finding him online dating sites.
Last time we broke up for me it was the LAST time, We had 6 months off each other of no contact and then he got back in touch, in that 6 months I hadn’t taken time to heal, I was still wallowing in self pity even though its me who ended the relationship. He caught me at a bad point where I was missing company, didn’t know how to eat/cook for 1 person and just felt generally shit.

I live in Spain and have done for 14 years, I embrace the culture and everything to do with Spain but a heart I am still a Brit. My partner is Spanish and had a very different upbringing to me. My family we warm loving and giving where as his from what he tells me were lonely, distant and cold.

I don’t know how to explain his personality but he is like no other person I have met before. His opinions on things and others can be cold and direct, He is a lonely guy who prefer to spend his time alone than with others, he hates any type of celebrations likes birthdays or Christmas. He is clean living, doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke has high standards of himself.

Me on the other hand have a job working with people, I like mixing although I prefer smaller crowds, I love my family so much and take the time to embraces other peoples birthdays and spending time with loved ones at Christmas.

We have been back together for 12 months now and the last 12 months have been good, One of the conditions of getting back together was that he would think more about his “offensive” comments and be more empathetic and compassionate, previous to this he scored 0/10 for any of those attributes.

The past couple of weeks with him have reminded me so much of previous years and see old ways slipping back. The week before Christmas I asked him if he wanted to do anything (knowing he hates being forced to sit round a table and pretend he wants to be there) He said no he didn’t want to do anything so instead of raising to him I just said ok, Im going to make my own plans I will go to my mothers house and be with them, He said fine, Any problem? I said no its fine, I cant force you to celebrate. Then 2 days before Christmas he said can we talk about the plan for Christmas, I said no I already asked you and you said you didn’t want to do anything now I’ve made my plan with my mother. He said well things can change, Lets go to my mothers on the 24th and yours on the 25th, I got angry because I like to prepare if we were going to his mothers then I would of made an extra cake, got some nice wine etc to take and as far as I was concerned I had finished shopping. He said no gifts or food required lets just go, I said no that’s not my style. Anyway also in regards to going to my mothers she has a partner with severe COPD and I said to my partner that I will need to “ask” my mother its ok if he comes as he has been shielding since March, Well my partner could not understand in the slightest why my mother would need to consult her partner. My partner then said it looks like you don’t want me to go. I flipped at him and just shouted “Do what you fing want!!” Im sick of this… So off he went to his mothers for 4 days (2 hour drive away) so I spend xmas eve alone, Christmas day I went for a few hours but had to get back for the dogs, boxing day alone until he got back. We didn’t even speak for a few days after that. I got no gifts…

He came to me and said lets try better next year, We didn’t communicate well, we lost our temper and we couldn’t agree, I find it really hard to move on from things like this and just swallow “lets try better next year” because I full well know next year will be more of him not wanting or being forced to celebrate. In the past years I have gone back to my family’s house in England to join in the celebrations because here I get nothing and it just feels like a normal day. This time we agreed to disagree again.

Roll on New Years eve, Hes not a going out person so we agreed to stay in get some nice food. A client of mine had sent me a bottle of Moet to say thanks for all my extra help and all my boyfriend could say was who in their right mind would pay 60€ for a bottle of champagne when the cheap one tastes the same, instead of making me feel good about it…

23:30 and we were chatting away and I turned to him and said are you happy with me/us? Fishing for compliments I suppose and he said mmmmm, could be better. I burst out crying and we saw the clock strike 00:00 in different rooms.

Now it’s the 3rd of January and we are still not speaking. We have tried to resolve this again but I feel that we just sweep things under the carpet. I have told him, I need more umf from him, I like gifts, I like surprises, I like massages. Simple but sweet things. Not handbags and diamond rings.

Things from myside anyway just seem very so so, He doesn’t congratulate me when I get a sale, He doesn’t notice small things that I do for us/him/the home. I like to help the homeless etc and he doesn’t seem to care for that either..

He tells me I am too dramatic, Too sensitive and I should think about things more simply and even said last night why cant I think more like him and just go with the day to day flow of life.

I’m starting to feel like I am all of the above and that my emotions, feelings and opinions dont count.

Sorry it was so long, I don’t know what to do. In general he is a good guy but don’t feel like my needs are being met ☹

OP posts:
Arizonaa · 03/01/2021 14:18

It sounds like you want him to be something he's not.

If you're so incompatible and different as people you should go your separate ways.

FippertyGibbett · 03/01/2021 14:18

You are wasting your life with him. He will never change and be the person you want him to be.
You don’t say how old you are, but I would say to anyone younger not to waste your fertile years with someone who isn’t right.
Dump him and block him. You need to perfect the art of being alone so that, when someone comes into your life, you will only accept someone who enhances your life -not drags you down.

pleasecaffeinateme · 03/01/2021 14:19

Sounds like you are incompatible and want different things completely. I'd break it off for good and move on. You deserve to be with someone who can give you what you want.

Lemonpiano · 03/01/2021 14:21

Stop wasting your life on him.

Coriandersucks · 03/01/2021 14:24

7 years of that? You are both expecting things of the other thats not possible. Time to call time on the drama and find someone more suitable.

GingerBeverage · 03/01/2021 14:24

He won't change.
He manipulates you and I think you know this is a dead end situation.
This time you can use the break up to work on your self esteem so that when he starts pulling your puppet strings again you have the emotional strength to refuse, and refuse again and again until he gets the message and moves on.

Divebar · 03/01/2021 14:24

Rather than you expecting him to change for you why don’t you change for him? You can’t can you because you want the things you want and he wants the things he wants. He’s never going to give you want you want. Never. Stop expecting it.

Wanderlusto · 03/01/2021 14:26

People are compassionate, empathetic (normal) human beings or they arent.

You cant make a lion into a lamb.

He is who he is and his slipping back to old ways are simply his mask failing.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

category12 · 03/01/2021 14:28

You're not compatible.

Also he seems out to sabotage things and deflate you.

You shouldn't have got back together. Break up properly and finally.

MrsBrunch · 03/01/2021 14:30

He sounds ok, just different to what you want. You shouldn't be with someone who you want to change. You're just not compatible.

tigerem · 03/01/2021 14:35

Thanks for your replies so far. Were both 38. He has a boy of 12 who we have over every other weekend which he says is enough "child" time for him. I cant conceive as I had 2 ectopic pregnancies and have been thorough the whole IVF and adopting conversations with him but he doesn't see the point in having another child so I spent many years convincing myself if I can't do it naturally then don't and just enjoy life without children. It still niggles away at me but I have to put it back in the box.

I cant change and I made it clear on our last break up that if we got back together then its him who would have to work on the changes in himself and he agreed that he could do it but like someone said his mask is falling.

I read so many things that couples should just work on their differences and not everything can be perfect as he keeps repeating to tell me..

I'm not after perfection but I am after a little attention, understanding and compromise.

This after he tells me I am blowing all of this out of proportion and nothing more than a drama queen.

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funnylittlefloozie · 03/01/2021 14:36

He sounds like a joyless prat, quite honestly, and you sound lovely. Kick him out of your life and find someone you are actually compatible with.

WhenPidgeonsCry · 03/01/2021 14:37

I didn't even read your half of your OP because right from the start there were so many things that just scream "move on". A relationship should not be this difficult. There are so many guys out there who won't fuck you about and act like this, why not just find one of them?

Arizonaa · 03/01/2021 14:37

He's not the one for you op. Move on.

CheshireCats · 03/01/2021 14:37

You need to finish and mean it. It's over, but if you keep going back to him, you are enabling your own unhappiness. You know full well he will never be what you want. Gather your strength and end it once and for all.

bluebell34567 · 03/01/2021 14:40

sad but you dont look compatible to each other.
it looks he made effort in the last 12 months.
at christmas he tried his best, which wasnt in an appropriate way, but there was some effort of being more social.
if you can, give him some more time and a dead line.

category12 · 03/01/2021 14:40

No, things are not always perfect, but you guys are completely unsuited.

Of course he wants you to stick around and "work at it", because otherwise he'd be on his tod and have no-one to ignore, put down and be a shit to.

He went on dating sites when you had an ectopic. He's a cold and unpleasant person. Nothing has changed.

MrsWooster · 03/01/2021 14:41

There’s nothing wrong with you and there’s nothing wrong with him and neither of you meet the needs of the other. Move on.

RandomMess · 03/01/2021 14:41

You will never be happy with him you need completely things from what he offers.

Move on for good.

tigerem · 03/01/2021 14:47

I cant stand most of his opinions about things, its like I am completely wired differently to him and we disagree on most things.

He says he feels like he has to be careful what he says around me incase I get offended. I dont want him to feel like that its not fair on him and he is also making me out to be someone im not as I'm generally a very easy going person but his opinions run me up the wrong way.

He even said last week that his nan is 94 and she depends on her children to look after her now, he said it would be better for everyone if she just died now. She's had a good life and now she's just a strain on everyone. She's not even ill just needs some assistance.

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category12 · 03/01/2021 14:52

Don't you think you'd both be better off moving the hell on and finding people you do like and get on with?

WhenPidgeonsCry · 03/01/2021 14:53

I cant stand most of his opinions about things, its like I am completely wired differently to him and we disagree on most things

Yeah, so why are you with him? That's kind of a terrible basis for a relationship.

LizziesTwin · 03/01/2021 14:54

Why do you want to be in a relationship with him? He really doesn’t seem that nice & you are still young.

Move on, you are worth more than this & you only have one life. You can do this!

DPotter · 03/01/2021 15:00

At the very minimum you are incompatible as a couple - he's cold, distant and wants to be in control, you're warm, sociable and empathetic. These are your fundamental personalities - they can't be changed.

When 2 people are so far apart there really is no scope for compromise - one of you will always have to be something they are not, do something they hate or are very uncomfortable with. Add power-play into the mix and he will always expect you to follow his lead / do as he wants. If you do, you're unhappy and if you don't your empathetic nature will kick in and make you unhappy. Upshot - either way you can't win with this size of gap.

It's like he's your bad habit - you don't like it but you keep going back.

You owe yourself a good life. At 38 it's not impossible to have children - I had my DD at 38 and I know many who've had children into their 40s.

I don't know how meshed together your lives are, but I would start separating and leave him. He's bad for you - there's someone out there for you who is better.

tigerem · 03/01/2021 15:01

Day to day we have a good life, its when anything difficult arises or I challenge his opinion and say that's not right we then end up having a debate that turns into a fight, part of my changing was to just accept he is different which I have been doing well at for the last 12 months, I just learnt to roll my eyes and get on with it but I feel old problems are resurfacing.

I know your all right, we should both move on. Which means a lot of heartache and splitting the house up, moving out etc..

Or maybe I have to learn to expect less

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