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My estranged father’s neighbour - overstepping?

45 replies

FreshEggs · 15/12/2020 15:11

I have been NC with my father for three years now. LC with my mum.

It’s a very long story but the past events involving my dad includes his alcoholism, painkiller addiction, domestic violence towards my mother, domestic violence towards his subsequent vulnerable partner. Cuckooing that partner (getting his name on her council tenancy and then physically abusing her until she moved out and he got the flat). That partner had schizophrenia and had committed infanticide yet this info was kept secret from me and my husband (we had an 18 month old when we found out and the whole family kept it secret. I found out online. Presumably he didn’t want me to realise that he had targeted someone so very vulnerable).

Eventually after a few more years of me being screamed at whenever he couldn’t get enough painkillers, manipulated with suicide threats into buying him illegal drugs, sneaking opioids into hospital for him and all sorts of other dumb things that I did for him... plus some extremely dark texts that no father should ever send a daughter, we are NC (he cut contact with me when I had a nervous breakdown).

I have been trying to heal but it’s hard. I am suffering from debilitating anxiety at the moment and I’ve got psoriasis spreading all over the place. I’ve had lots of therapy and EMDR for the trauma of witnessing the DV and the suicide attempt). My DC especially teen DS have been through a lot of stress in their young years and in the womb and regretfully DS suffers with a selective eating disorder. (I blame myself for this, that I did not distance myself earlier and his early life was such chaos).

So now my father is in his 70s and apparently bedbound, (I suspect the opioid abuse might have contributed) I have been on the receiving end of a lot of people trying to get in touch with me ‘as it is my duty as his only child to be his carer’. I have maintained strong boundaries so far but a particular neighbour of his is causing me great upset. I don’t know her at all. She turned up on my doorstep on our anniversary earlier this year. My husband was polite to her and said we are estranged and she left him her number.
She has since posted photocopied pictures of my dad through our door which we ignored.

Now she has sent my DS Xmas and birthday cards (nothing for DD) from my father with stickers stuck all over the envelope saying NO ONE SHOULD HAVE NO ONE. I felt this overstepping the mark to do this to a young teen that you don’t even know.

I found her number and asked her to refrain from sending him these things directly addressed to my child as she doesn’t know the full story, and it is us as parents who have decided on the NC with his grandfather therefore it’s inappropriate to try and guilt trip a child in this way.

Well, I have received a barrage of texts saying that she sticks stickers like that on all her outgoing letters, no one has ever complained before and if I don’t like it it is my problem. She wants my DC to see the stickers because she wants to teach them to not be cold and heartless like me, and not to abandon old people. She doesn’t care for my backstory or illness and she will do as she sees fit.

I’ve blocked her number and been sent home from work for crying Blush but I’m feeling absolutely ill with it all. I realise I will always look like the bad guy who is no contact with her elderly father but I am just one human being who has reached their limit with it all. My father has sisters and nieces. He also has an estranged brother and lots of ex partners who know exaxtly how bad he can be.

I’m sorry this has been such a long post. I don’t know what to do anymore, I’m never going to have peace am I? I just want to live a quiet life free from chaos.
I don’t know what I’m asking for, I just feel broken. I feel like quicksand trying to pull me down into all the dysfunction again.

OP posts:
FreshEggs · 15/12/2020 15:15

Apologies again for the length of post, and for it being quite the stream of consciousness. I am usually more articulate than this!

OP posts:
applespearsbears · 15/12/2020 15:17

This is harassment and you need to report to the police

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 15/12/2020 15:19

Surely this is harrisment - I'd see if your local police have advice - though blocking all means of communication - (I don't get why your DH gave her your phone number) would be a start and maybe one clear message of don't contact.

ArosAdraDrosDolig · 15/12/2020 15:20

Definitely harassment. Hopefully a visit from the police will deter her.

beavisandbutthead · 15/12/2020 15:21

I agree with apllespearsbears neighbours behaviour is totally unacceptable. For all they know you could be a victim of sexual abuse- so her stating the back story is irrelevant is just wrong on so many fronts. I do wonder if the neighbour has some issues as there behaviour and level of harrassment is all rather odd

FatCatThinCat · 15/12/2020 15:21

What a stupid woman harrassing you like this. Anyone with half a brain knows that you have to have gone through absolute hell to reach a point where you're no contact with a parent.

I don't know what the answer is for dealing with her beyond binning everything she sends and not responding. I just wanted to let you know that you've done the right thing and someone who has damaged your life so badly has no right to have you in their life.

HigherFurtherFasterBaby · 15/12/2020 15:23

Harassment. Report her to the police. She is also harassing your child.

It would be a cold day in Hell before I became my mother carer in old age.

TartanLassie · 15/12/2020 15:23

Oh my word your father's neighbours sounds deranged! How dare she!!!

Even if your father did nothing wrong and you just don't want to have contact with him, it has nothing to do with her!

How dare she!!

I'm angry for you.

You don't need to explain anything to her. Who cares what she thinks!

As PPs have suggested send one last text telling her to stop contacting you and if she contacts you again tell her you will contact the police for harassment. Then block her.

Silly interfering woman.

MaMaD1990 · 15/12/2020 15:28

Contact the police and let them deal with her. Even ask for a restraining order if needs be so she can't come ear your property or family. She sounds like a total nutcase.

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 15/12/2020 15:29

Anyone with half a brain knows that you have to have gone through absolute hell to reach a point where you're no contact with a parent.

I'm seeing in DH family people "forgetting" some family members childhoods or minimising and putting pressue and being flying mokeys on LC and NC adult children mainly bacuse those family members want someone else to deal with the problem family member - rather than them growing a backbone and saying no.

DH says stay out of it so I tend to change subject when LC and NC family members are criticised but so many people will join in critised with no knowledge. of the background.

category12 · 15/12/2020 15:43

Please don't feel guilty and don't get sucked back into your father's web. This woman doesn't know what she's talking about, and you are doing the right thing for your dc and self. Flowers

Santaisironingwrappingpaper · 15/12/2020 15:46

Text one message:
Some people should fuck off
And block her..
Or report her to the police.

YesMeLady · 15/12/2020 15:56

She sounds awful. If she is so worried about him then she can look after him. I would change your phone number or have her calls and texts blocked. Would your dh tell her to stop harrassing you, would that help. Speak to 101 about her behaviour, maybe a visit from them might be enough. If not then think about a restraining order. Record any visits, keep the cards and envelopes.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 15/12/2020 15:57

I would contact the police re this woman who has made unwanted contact with you; if you have any items that she has sent you show them these. Do not at all respond to her further, radio silence from you is necessary.

She is as others have stated a flying monkey (these are usually easily manipulated folk or other relatives sent in by people like your dad to do his bidding for him). She is not interested in hearing your side of things so her opinion should be ignored completely.

notacooldad · 15/12/2020 16:00

I would be telling her that if she contacts you or your family one more time about anything you will report her to the police.
And mean it!!!
Not acceptable at all!

Wanderlusto · 15/12/2020 16:06

Agree with pp. Tell her if she contacts you again in any way you will be reporting her to the police ad ger behaviour is harassment. Dont miss and hit the wall.

Well done for getting away from asshole dad. Don't let other idiots/bullies tell you how you should live or who you should let into your or your children's life.

Wanderlusto · 15/12/2020 16:06

*as her behaviour

dilly123 · 15/12/2020 16:07

Just wanted to echo what everyone else has said about possible police involvement & send you a virtual hug.. You have been through so much & deserve the chance to attempt to heal & put it behind you. Do not spend another wasted moment thinking about this man & all credit to you for getting this far despite such an upbringing.
Thanks

user1471538283 · 15/12/2020 16:13

Report her right now! Whether or not you are in touch with your DF is none of her business. I've had all this "you only get one mother" shit all my life when in actual fact she didn't mother me and they weren't there to see what she did to me. If his neighbour is that bothered SHE can care for him!

krustykittens · 15/12/2020 16:14

Agree with PP, this is harassment, tell her you will report her to the police if she continues and DO IT! Take care of yourself, OP, it sounds like you have been through hell. If she is so concerned about him having someone, she can bloody well take care of him.

Prettybubblesintheair · 15/12/2020 16:19

I’m so sorry you’ve experienced all that. Stay strong and hold your boundaries firm, he wouldn’t “have no one” if he wasn’t an evil abusing sod! You’ve been really strong staying NC, please stay strong and don’t let him in your or your ds’s lives. You’re doing the right thing x

FreshEggs · 15/12/2020 17:16

Thank you so much, I’ve had a lovely friend of mine and DH on the phone saying much the same as you all, plus someone from work checking I’m ok.

I have done the no contact request message and then blocked her. My DH didn’t give her my number, it was from when she turned up here on our anniversary and he dealt with her - she gave him a scrap of paper with her phone number on it. I found that and sent her the message asking her to refrain from everything. Tbh I was expecting a reasonable conversation and I going to explain things, so I was deeply taken aback at her response. And some of it was so petty and childish - she sent me a load of face-palm emojis in response to me outlining some of my childhood experiences and reasons for NC. This is a 50+ year old woman who doesn’t know me.

You are all right that it isn’t normal behaviour.

I will think about reporting her, certainly if she gets in contact again I will. I am hoping this is enough.

OP posts:
iwanttoridemybicycleiwant · 15/12/2020 17:17

Here's the thing, turn it around. If Old Man X is a virtuous chap and very frail, but X Jnr wants to have nothing to do with him, NOBODY SANE would ask X Jnr to look after Old Man X because the last thing the vulnerable elderly need is to rely on someone who hates them!
I say this to illustrate that this woman is really, really not thinking clearly, and agree with PPs that if you have to, go to the police and make a harassment complaint if she doesn't bugger off.
Good luck.

BlueThistles · 15/12/2020 17:22

Yes report her OP 🌺

reprehensibleme · 15/12/2020 17:27

You don't owe her any explanations or details of why you are NC with your father. Ignore any contact and if she persists, report her for harassment.

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