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Friend let me down over my wedding

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WeledaHelp · 06/12/2020 12:48

Seeing a few friendship posts today has made me think it might be helpful for me to get advice on something bothering me.

I have 3 friends and we have been close for 13 years now. We have annual weekend staycations and also try and do an abroad holiday every year, but usually it’s 3 of 4 that can make the abroad trips - almost always money or not enough leave stops a fourth from joining.

Friend A got married last year, and Friend B, Friend C and I went all out to make it special. She planned a huge hen with 20 girls from different friend groups (which would have been a nightmare for me personally...) and we were the only 3 to make the effort and go. There were two others who came too.

For her wedding the three of us stayed with her the night before with her family and bridal party (even though two of us weren’t in the bridal party) and made it a special night for her. We then pooled together for a joint wedding gift that was £750 split between the three of us.

My point is we went out of our way to make her feel special when she got married.

I was meant to have my wedding this year, during first lockdown, but naturally, I had to cancel. DH (then fiancé) and I spent ages agonising over what to do - TBH DH said he would do whatever I want. He never wanted the big huge wedding and was only doing that for me. Eventually, I realised it could be a whole year, minimum, before we can have my dream wedding so we decided to have a mini covid wedding instead.

In July, I messaged the group to tell them we’re planning a wedding for September, date and location TBC but watch this space. A messaged me the very next day to say that her and her DH probably won’t be able to come because of the virus. Not going to lie, the message upset me. I appreciated her telling me in advance but I hadn’t even planned anything yet for her to tell me she won’t come, and also she assumed her DH would be coming too when numbers were very limited. I just told her I appreciate the heads up as it helps with the planning.

Just a few days later, she was posting on her Instagram about a weekend away she was on with DH in Cornwall (we’re in London so it’s quite a distance). The following weekend, it was posts about meeting friends. A few days later she was in a pub garden and then a restaurant. The weekend after that, it was posts about another weekend away with another couple.

Being honest, it annoyed me that she immediately bailed on my wedding when I didn’t even have any plans yet she was out and about socialising.

I finally booked my wedding in August, to take place in Scotland at the end of September, as DH is Scottish and his parents are elderly so they understandably weren’t comfortable travelling to London. I didn’t tell her about the wedding. Invited B & C but didn’t mention it to her. At the end of August, she messaged me to ask what’s happening with the wedding (our last conversation about it was when she said she probably won’t come). I told her it’s booked for a month’s time. She apparently was upset I hadn’t told her and started complaining to B and C about it. They told her to talk to me so she did.

We talked about it, and she said she’s hurt I didn’t invite her. I told her she already told me she won’t come. She said she said probably won’t come, not definitely, and if she was updated she could have seen if she could have made it. I pointed out it was hurtful for her to immediately say she probably won’t come because of the virus, before I even had any plans, and then to see her out and about normally. Eventually, I told her if she can make it, there’s space for her. If she can’t, that’s fine, but she needs to let me know.

What she didn’t know, and what I should have told her, is that putting her on the list meant three of my cousins were off the list, as it was either her or three cousins (I couldn’t split the cousins up and make it her and two cousins, as that would cause drama in the family). Our numbers were limited to 20, including us and the photographer, so space was limited.

Early September she messaged to say she’s coming. I was so so happy I cried. My hurt over what had happened had gone because I was so pleased she would be there.

Throughout September, I messaged my friends at least two times saying if you don’t feel comfortable coming and you want to change your mind, that is completely fine, just let me know ASAP so we can give their space to others (was conscious my side had to travel from London to Scotland so didn’t want them to feel obliged). They all kept saying it’s fine.

Three days before the wedding, she messages me to ask if we can talk. I was busy doing wedding errands that day so told her I won’t have time to talk but she can message. She then said she doesn’t feel comfortable coming up for my wedding. She said she feels bad, and she had her outfit ready and everything, but she doesn’t feel comfortable travelling. I was too busy and too upset to have the conversation so just said thanks for letting me know, but some notice would have been appreciated.

She messaged me on the wedding day to say happy wedding day, etc. I didn’t respond as I was busy.

And that was the last contact I had from her until last weekend.

The other two were annoyed too and told me she had been telling them for at least a week beforehand that she was unsure about going. They kept telling her to speak to me about it, and she never did. She then told them that she would wait until the Tuesday, 4 days before the wedding, to see what the next wedding update was. Nicola Sturgeon was due to make a speech that day about new restrictions in Scotland. Luckily weddings were exempt but to me, that sounds like she would wait and see if my wedding would be cancelled again. As it wasn’t, she finally reached out to me to tell me she wasn’t coming.

That whole thing really really hurt me. My issue was not her being uncomfortable travelling during a pandemic (even though she had been doing that anyway) - I even gave her outs throughout September. My issue was her letting me know just 3 days beforehand, which meant we couldn’t invite someone in her place. It wasn’t about having numbers for the sake of it, but there were so many people we wanted there but couldn’t because it was limited to just 17 guests.

And then, she never messaged me again after the wedding day. She didn’t send me a card, didn’t send a gift, didn’t ask about the wedding and didn’t even like my photos on Facebook and Instagram (I know I sound petty with that but she’s on those two all the time). She was acting normal with the other two so it wasn’t that she was going through something. She just never reached out again.

I appreciated that she might think the ball is in my court because she messaged on my wedding day and I never responded, but I genuinely feel she should have reached out to make it right, or at least act normal, at the very least.

It was her birthday last weekend, and I very very reluctantly did the bigger person thing and sent her a happy bday message. That was the first contact since the wedding day. She responded to say “thank you, how are you”? I said, “all good, hope you’re well too.” And that’s been it.

That has been the only contact we have had after she cancelled just three days before.

And I do feel that as someone who had her wedding last year, she knows how stressful it can be and cancelling just three days before without any attempt to then make it right is not ok.

I just wanted thoughts on the above, and whether I’m being unreasonable or not!

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MustardMitt · 06/12/2020 14:12

Absolutely flabbergasted as some of the responses.

Regardless of COVID or whatever the situation is in your respective countries, it is immature and selfish to not be clear and honest with your best friends. She was telling your other friends she didn't think she would come but left it till the last second to let you know - I'm not surprised that upset you so much.

I think now is the time though to realise that your friendly little quad actually doesn't really include you and her. For whatever reason, she's decided that the friendship between you two doesn't mean as much as for the rest of you. As painful as it might be, I would recommend you draw a line under this and recognise that fact.

VanityWitch · 06/12/2020 14:13

Just wondering...she isn't recently pregnant by any chance? Not that it explains the tantrum over not receiving an invitation or the lack of present.

mcmooberry · 06/12/2020 14:14

Oh God I hate it when the first responder to a perfectly reasonable post is unsupportive and dismissive.

She sounds awful and I bet you now wish you had stuck to your guns and not invited her and had your cousins there. Not that that would have ended any better to be fair. If she can't see how she is in the wrong here then I think you need to let the friendship go unfortunately or adopt the fantastically phrased "medium chill" approach.

Pantsomime · 06/12/2020 14:14

Give yourselves some space - she may have had other things to consider - perhaps pregnant- a loss then pregnancy- you don’t know( obvs not preg now or you would be able to tell) Communication in a group can be hard - various elements all round should have been clearer eg the invite was only her not her DH, her invite was at the expense of 3 others so she knew all about it. This pandemic is hard on everyone, perhaps step back, allow her some space to come back to you - send a Christmas card. Frankly if I wanted to talk to you and You said You were too busy message me- My message would have been F..k O.. I wonder if that it where it all went wrong

WeledaHelp · 06/12/2020 14:14

Thank you everyone.

I think I just wondered am I being overly sensitive. I know the virus has changed things, but the longer this has gone on I’ve actually wondered am I in the wrong, etc. Hence why I wanted someone else’s view. I think I’m just stunned that someone I know could behave in such a way, and can’t help but wonder if I need to be doing more instead.

For those wondering why we had a wedding during a pandemic, if you’ve been to a covid wedding you would know it’s the same as going out to dinner. There’s no music, no dancing. It’s literally ceremony, dinner, home, with up to 17 guests on several tables (for Scotland at the time). It’s nothing like a traditional wedding.

It was in Scotland because DH is Scottish. His parents are more at risk than my parents, so it made sense for my side to travel up from London than his side to travel down to London.

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ittakes2 · 06/12/2020 14:15

I'm with you - I get these are difficult times and people react differently to what's going on in terms of how safe they feel. But she not only mucked you around - she did very little to show you how bad she felt. I am guessing she is feeling embarassed and awkward...and it is yet again about how she feels and putting herself first. I think as others have said putting her on medium chill so you can continue the group makes sense. But other than that I am not sure if I could feel the same about her. Unfort weddings always have the opportunity to make or break friendships/family relationships.

WeledaHelp · 06/12/2020 14:19

No, she’s not pregnant. I must admit that thought occurred to me too, or that perhaps she had a loss, but she hasn’t (I asked one of our mutual friends just to make sure and double check everything is ok with her because I was actually worried at one point that something had happened).

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reservoircats · 06/12/2020 14:20

Ignore other posters about saying you're immature etc. Anyone who hasn't tried to plan a wedding this year does not understand what it's been like. I got married in October after cancelling my May wedding, so I know how hard it's been. Weddings are a massive life event and people don't seem to realise the stresses and planning that they take. In these times, it's even worse.
I think you need to drop this friend OP. The damage has been done, she has not treated you well. It doesn't even seem like she feels that she has done anything wrong, which I'm sure is frustrating too. You are totally valid to feel like this, I hope your friendship group can remain civil and that your other two friends can support you both.

Kaliorphic · 06/12/2020 14:20

I don't think youre being overly sensitive op. She should have told you well in advance if she was thinking of bailing out. Really though if she said she was coming then she should have done that.cshe doesn't sound like a nice friend.

Winter2020 · 06/12/2020 14:21

I don’t think she could ever be bothered to make the effort, but she didn’t like being cut out of the arrangements and having the choice took away from her. You now have the measure of her.

SingingInTheShithouse · 06/12/2020 14:22

She sounds like a self centred, self entitled cow tbh. Letting you know so late was bang out of order & she knows it, hence her lack of reaching out to you. She clearly doesn't do heartfelt genuine apologies, which would be warranted here, so chooses to avoid you instead.

YADNBU & she didn't deserve the birthday message

Bringbackthestrips · 06/12/2020 14:22

She was pissed off because you didn’t send her an invite. Imagine how hurt she was. She said ‘probably won’t be able to come’, you didn’t give her the opportunity to accept or decline so I imagine everything that followed is due to that tbh.
However her behaviour declining last minute and not sending a card or gift was awful.

Is the friendship worth continuing? If so then you need to discuss it F2F, messages can be misunderstood when you can’t hear the tone.

Amotherlife · 06/12/2020 14:22

Weddings are very emotional, especially for those actually getting married. I agree she was very inconsiderate and focused too much on herself. She should have sent a card and present, if only as an apology. But if it was a birthday party, say, you'd probably overlook it much more easily.

I wouldn't ditch the friendship as it involves others, and it sounds like you often meet up as a 4. Although if you are all beginning to get married, then it's likely the holidays and weekends away will dwindle anyway (especially if babies come along).

I'm in the forgive and try to forget camp. The fact we're in a pandemic plus the long journey are factors that you could her behaviour down to. I would not contact her again though until your anger has subsided.

Friends do let you down from time to time, and time is a great healer. And in her own way, she tried to do the right thing. She was obviously conflicted about attending and that might account for the last minute let down. Plus maybe others were putting pressure on her - her own DH or other family maybe?

GabsAlot · 06/12/2020 14:23

Shes had a strop at not being officially invited but she never wanted to go

self centred and rude

VanityWitch · 06/12/2020 14:25

@WeledaHelp

No, she’s not pregnant. I must admit that thought occurred to me too, or that perhaps she had a loss, but she hasn’t (I asked one of our mutual friends just to make sure and double check everything is ok with her because I was actually worried at one point that something had happened).
She sounds a bit all over the place tbh. Pregnancy or not. I would also have been a bit worried if a friend behaved like this. But that doesn't mean you have to tolerate her messing you about. You can be concerned about someone and not want to be their best mate at the same time, which is probably how I'd feel here.

I only have experience planning a wedding in non covid times. Yes, it can be a little stressful, but it is one of those things you need to try to remain lighthearted about. Nobody is dead, you are happily married and probably had a lovely day. No, she didn't behave well and maybe she has her reasons, but even still, you don't need to make any effort with her anymore. I'd keep things friendly and polite but no more.

GooseWhiskers · 06/12/2020 14:27

This would have really upset me too. She knows how much effort you’d put in for her yet she had no interest in returning it for you.

Poor friend and I’d sack her off unless I got a very good apology.

NoPinkPlease · 06/12/2020 14:28

She's no friend - so self-centred and inconsiderate. I'd drop her after a few months of that, it wasn't a one off incident was it?!

FAQs · 06/12/2020 14:30

It all sounds a bit silly, she wasn’t sure if they’d be able to go due to COVID, to be fair that isn’t unreasonable, the situation changed weekly at that point. The summer had less restrictions I place. So you didn’t let her know, but did your mutual friends, that’s a bit petty. Then you kept messaging people saying you understood if they didn’t want to go but to let you know so others could, that is unfair on any ‘standby’ guests and not reassuring you want those who did make the cut very important, but equally she was shitty not give you notice until a few days before, all a bit bad as each other.

LuckyNumberThirteen · 06/12/2020 14:30

Sorry but ignoring her text on your wedding day was petty.

You've caused a further rift after shutting down communication after she asked how you were.

Friends shouldn't play silly games or make friends jump through hoops to get back in their good graces.

Grow up and ring her.

Blondeshavemorefun · 06/12/2020 14:30

she isnt a friend

if she is happy to galavant around the country with friends but not travel for your wedding

numbers are soooooooooo limited at the moment for weddings :(

was meant to have got married in may this year, obv cancelled, moved to may next year

likely to be 15, really hope for more come may

but we want to get married, rather then have a wedding day, just like you wanted

she told the other 2 , she wasnt sure, they should have told you, but understand why they didnt, but with limited numbers, really makes a diff who can be invited

no card, gift etc esp as you spent £250 on her is wrong

Lucy830 · 06/12/2020 14:35

I feel she couldn’t be arsed to make the effort. I would be hurt too.

WeledaHelp · 06/12/2020 14:42

I’ve just scrolled and realised how long my post it! Sorry! And thank you everyone for reading and commenting!!

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mumduty · 06/12/2020 14:46

Rude rude rude, plain and simple. Just keep it civil hi and bye and never invite her back into your life or lift a finger for her. People like this piss me off, they don't deserve any effort whatsoever.

Pechanga · 06/12/2020 14:52

She sounds a bit complicated and possibly a bit erratic about her feelings about COVID, sometimes overly cautious sometimes braver...I think in this respect you need to be a bit more understanding. There may be some concerns she has you aren't aware of or pressure from someone close to her that you aren't aware of.

So her not coming, and even contacting you so late is ok, inconvenient but acceptable under these unprecedented circumstances.

She hasn't handled it well though (really rude) but I'm wondering if this was a result of sensing your anger and frustration at her - it's obvious from the very first message you were upset with her. (Also your other friends would have told her what you were saying) So I dare say she's been avoiding your wrath, maybe she's really bad at confrontation or she's convinced herself you're in the wrong.

At the end of the day I think you've both damaged your friendship and she doesn't seem that keen on you any more. Maybe it's time to step back a bit, just stay friendly for the sake of the wider friendship circle but don't expect too much from this friendship, lower your expectations from her and she won't end up disappointing you again.

mumduty · 06/12/2020 14:52

@LuckyNumberThirteen

Sorry but ignoring her text on your wedding day was petty.

You've caused a further rift after shutting down communication after she asked how you were.

Friends shouldn't play silly games or make friends jump through hoops to get back in their good graces.

Grow up and ring her.

She mucks around with attendance with I might come or I might not due to coronavirus whilst travelling the Uk for holidays, meals and fun times. She knows numbers are limited (coronavirus) and op had to ditch 3 cousins to accommodate her, so she should know how stressful this is since she had a wedding herself the year before even without the coronavirus. I left my phone in the hotel room on my wedding day so I'm guessing op answering messages on her wedding is the least of her priorities and I'm sorry I wouldn't even respond to someone like that even if I carried my phone with me around my neck on my wedding day.