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Scared of leaving boyfriend - turns into hulk - Therapy or leave?..

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Fragrancewaxboss · 01/12/2020 00:47

Ive been with someone for a couple of years, but it wasnt going so well due to his insecurities and jealousy.

He constantly checks my phone, reads every message on every app, and if i show him something on my phone, he tells me to turn up my brightness or turn it down so he can see what the notifications are. If i leave the room, i catch him moving away from my phone, sometimes when im in the same room with my back turned. He tells me i have a message before i even get a chance to look at it, if i have a phone call he asks me who it is every single time, if i laughed or smiled on the phone he would be screw facing until i told him who it was.

When i walk my dog i usually pass people i know so ill stop for a few minutes to chat. My friend caught him following me, hiding behind a tree and another time i caught him behind a car, he was pretending to look for something and if i walk too long which is over 10 minutes, he will come looking for me because he is 'worried', or thinks im cheating.

I have a business and i dont really care who my customers are, but he doesnt like anyone so i have to turn away customers and its really affecting my business. A friend of my family has 2 sons who i went to school with and shes a good customer. I went inside her house to deliver her goods and show her some things, i was in the house for 7 minutes, came out and i didnt even put my second foot in the car before he sped off and started shouting and screaming like the hulk again asking did i go upstairs with them boys, what was i doing, what did we talk about, did i talk to them and why were they there and did i hug them etc. He almost crashed into the back of someone, we had to swerve onto incoming traffic. It was so scary, and it was for absolutely no reason!

Another thing i dont understand, he cries about everything, and puts on a sad face on a daily basis. If i tell him no, ask him to pick up his clothes, tell him to stop overfilling the washing machine, he will go from happy to about to cry in a second. I cant tell him anything without him doing this,it makes me feel so bad!! But i have no reason to feel bad, i thought it was normal to yell at your other half about stuff like that, ive never yelled and just ask politely but he basically cries, doesnt do what i ask, i feel have to ask again and again and he acts the same way and is sad for hours!!

Everytime we have a good day, he ruins it by almost crying so i ask whats wrong, and he says he just wants to make me happy and he hates making me sad...... i was just happy??!!!??! He goes on and on and cries and says to promise im not going to leave him or that i want someone with a nice body or something..oh my god im so miserable afterwards!!!

A new recent thing hes start doing is having dreams of me cheating and using it as am excuse to look through my phone. His whole day is moody because of the dream, talks to me about how im going to leave him and cheat. I try to tell him its not real, not to take his dreams seriously. He says them in such detail that ive started to think he may be making it up.. ive had to keep my dog somewhere else because hes made me believe my neighbours were standing with a knife at the window looking at me (we have issues with them) ..so now i havent left the house in 3 months. He tells me he doesnt feel comfortable with me going out anywhere when hes not there, but then he doesnt want to go out whe he gets home. I ask him to go for a walk with me but he always has an excuse, to try to help him lose weight, mainly for his health but sex is so painful for me because hes so heavy so thats also part of it. He wont walk after dinner because he always feels sleepy and has a nap. Hes so unhealthy he consumed 1/4 of a large pack of butter in one day, along with a takeaway burger and a whole loaf of bread. He basically drinks butter, eats way too much bread (4+ per week by himself), and eats in about 45 seconds. Its actually very scary and makes me so uncomfortable. I warmed up my gravy for 1 minute and 20.seconds, and as i was taking it out he came back in with a clean plate. MASSIVE ROAST DINNER. I couldnt believe it. Theres eating quick, and then there is THAT. We never eat together because by the time i have poured us a drink he has finished. He complains about his body constantly and says he wants to change at the start of our relationship but he just keeps getting bigger and more unhealthy. He even lies saying he dropped loads of butter on the floor and explains hes made 4 different thinks that need butter. Should i get him to speak to a doctor about his eating? Its so uncomfortable to watch and no matter what i do, he will evem turn my food away and say he doesnt fancy it.
I wouldnt dare mention anything about me trying to help him lose weight or about being healthy or calories because he twists it and starts crying saying that i dont love him and i dont love his body, but i want him to live a long healthy life, and im very worried for his health. (Also drinks about 3 redbulls a day and raids my change jar or wakes me up for change out of my purse)

Shortly after the start of him moving in with me and my family, he quit his job because he hated it...i then had to provide for him, buy him food, clothes, toileries, petrol, 250g tobacco per month.. He was limiting my work because i couldnt respond to anyone he didnt like so i couldnt save for a car. I still dont have money for a car. A few months ago his friend said to stop him being a bum he will pay him to work for him but only gets 500 a month, which he uses for petrol to actually get there, energy drinks every day, and tobacco. He will have a little bit left over at the end which he will waste on expensive flowers or sweets for us. I dont want stupid flowers i want to give my family his rent money. I used to really want a man to buy me flowers, but not when we are skint like this, its a silly thing to do. £20 could go on gas or electric which im struggling to keep up with..he liked doing what hes doing but he makes no money half goes on smoke and half goes on actually getting there!!!

Ive always said i wouldnt leave anyone because they have no money, but surly this is different. Hes just living off me and enjoying himself at work with his best friend making peanuts while i pay for it all. Its just not fair.

I have a medical condition and its so rare theres only a couple of private facebook groups in the world, and i was joined to them both. I cant have children, my other half has a 3 year old. I was finding it difficult as first because he would come home and tell me how amazing it is to be a dad, telling me all these things and i understand he must be so happy and proud at the gorgeous baby he created, when he would constantly say stuff like that, he started becoming very painful to hear. I keep strong because i love him, and its not his fault i feel this way so i wrote to these ladies on the private group and asked for some advice with being with someone who has children... he went and made a fake facebook account, requested to join and made up a lie to get in, and read through everything i have ever posted on the group. I would never want a boyfriend or any man to read what i have wrote but he wont leave the group and now i have left. I no longer have any support for my condition, and its very stressful and upsetting. I really needed to ask a question so i rejoined and a few hours later he told me he saw the post and wanted to talk about it.

My respect for him lowered so much after this. And so has my trust for him. He doesnt trust me because he thinks im too pretty for him. Hes actually done something to hurt me deeply but thinks im stupid for feeling this way because if i loved him i would want him to know...
I know hes my partner and he says if i love him then we should have no secrets.

I tried to break it off with him after nearly a year but he turned into the hulk and started punching himself in the face. Hes so strong and he has lots of power. He screams and just punches himself, and its not just when i tried to end things. If we have an argument about something, even if its not even a big argument he will start doing the same thing, hitting himself, says hes going to kill himself...he sat at the top of the road for hours. I didnt realise it was him at first because it was dark but when i realised, why would he just sit there for hours!!! He didnt go back to his mums, and im not surprised because its so toxic. They are so alike and if me or him turn her down or disagree she goes upstairs to cry and wont come down.
We went away for the day, separate cars because of the virus, i had my dog with me and she took her lead off me and said that im going into the shop with bf.. i said no its ok id rather not go inside anywhere because of the virus, to which she said in a more firm voice that im going in the shop and she will hold the dog. I wasnt about to argue over something so pointless so i just did it..10 mins before she tried to feed the dog and my bf told her off. When i went in the shop i turned to look but she was infront of the dog crouching down. When we got home the dog was sick and had diarreah, and i strongly believe she gave the dog whatever food she was eating. Even after we told her the dog gets so ill and costs so much money for the vets, why would she do this on purpose!? I had to stop her giving the dog chocolate on two other occasions and she just said oh sorry didnt know....but she did because i told her a few times. Common knowledge not to give dogs chocolate.

I feel like ive been brainwashed. Im surrounded by toxic and negative people and im not coping with it very well. Ive just been letting it happen, i dont have the strength. Im scared that he wont leave me alone if we break up, or if he tries to kill himself then people will think its my fault. Ive already been in a abusive relationship where i was constantly covered in bruises and i dont think im completely healed. But this relationship has been a setback for my health. Im scared of my current partner but is that because of my ex or is he actually abit stalkery? I love taking care of my apperance, ever since i was young id wear makeup all the time, i was happy, i felt good about myself. But i cant put makeup on, or even look in the mirror at myself because he will ask me who im trying to look good for, and why am i doing that...im checking i havent got food round my mouth, dont want to smell like BO when i go to a shop, dont want to leave with hair all over the place, its general i dont do it for anyone, i just like to take care of my apperance. I dont even know how to explain it i never thought it would be something i would have to explain. I just dont want to look stupid???

Shall i try going to therapy to help him with his issues? Or shall i leave. My head is such a mess i really feel like ive been brainwashed all the stuff im saying doesnt seem normal but he makes it feel normal.

Ifeel like checking into a mental hospital and im only 25.

Are these things normal? Am i the one in the wrong?

OP posts:
meow1989 · 01/12/2020 08:22

I got halfway through but was on the leaving side by the end of the first few sentences. This is an abusive and controlling relationship and you need to leave it, can you start making some plans to do so safely?

tenlittlecygnets · 01/12/2020 08:23

He is extremely controlling, manipulative and abusive. None of this is normal.

I'd bin him for the driving incident alone - he could have killed you.

Leave.

Then do the Freedom Programme so you can avoid men like him in future.

MrsLebowski · 01/12/2020 08:27

I was just reading about an anti DV campaign The Rock is supporting called 'She is not your rehab'. This guy has a lot of issues and yes he probably needs therapy but you are not his rehab. Girlfriends aren't therapists. Don't take responsibility for his mental health. Keep yourself safe and get the support of your family and friends.

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 01/12/2020 08:28

You need to leave and involve the police at every step, this man is extremely dangerous. Call them the first second you have a chance and ask for advice on leaving, call woman's aid too. Once he's gone you need to change the locks, get a security system, and a restraining order. He actually sounds like a psychopath, don't under estimate him. 3 women a week are killed by current or former male partners in this country OP, don't become one of them. The most dangerous time for a woman in an abusive relationship is when she tries to leave so please take lots of care and don't let the police get away with dismissing your fears. Good luck.

PoulePouletteEternellement · 01/12/2020 08:36

It's surely not helpful to tell the OP to "leave". The man lives in her father's house with her. It's a bit more complicated than simply packing a bag.

If this is the OP's life I hope she'll take some of the advice regarding getting him out of her home.

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 01/12/2020 08:42

I think when people say "leave" they don't mean for her to literally leave, they mean "find a way to break up with him and get him out of the house for good".

MotherOfDragons85 · 01/12/2020 08:43

Reading this sent chills through me, OP, this man is so very very dangerous, what he is doing is coercive control, manipulation, stalking - these are signs of a psychopath.

I honestly believe that if you break up with him then you will be in danger, you NEED to get away, could you call women’s aid and explain your situation, then go into a refuge for a while so that you’re safe? You’re so young and you have your whole life ahead of you, this is not what you want or need for yourself, you will get support and help in a refuge and hopefully be able to rebuild your life.

Please do the freedom program when you’re free of him and read some books on domestic abusers, lots of the ladies on here have some good reading literature recommendations. You need to build yourself up so strong that you never let another man like this into your life again - you deserve so much more.

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 01/12/2020 08:46

Here are some resources OP for how to alert the police without having to say anything.

You can do it by text but you must register your number in advance to use this service:

metro.co.uk/2017/05/26/how-to-silently-alert-police-or-an-ambulance-in-an-emergency-6664488/

Or you can make a silent phone call but again there are some steps you'll need to take so the operator can distinguish it from a hoax call:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47847735

Read both these articles if you get a chance and then you'll be best placed to contact the police without alerting him if you need to.

pinkyredrose · 01/12/2020 08:55

Why on earth did he move in with you? Why is sex painful because of his weight, doesn't he support himself?

Get rid of this horrible man, you're scared of him ffs. Can you just put his stuff in bin bags outside the door?

frozendaisy · 01/12/2020 09:10

Can you get your dad there and ask him to go back to his mum's?

YoniAndGuy · 01/12/2020 10:28

Jesus fuck.

What on earth is wrong with you? Read back your post describing this absolute nutjob and realise that he doesn't even have to hit you. He gets to control and abuse and destroy you simply by screeching and screaming and hulking.

He is a total toxic parasite. I cannot BELIEVE that he lives off you and at the same time PREVENTS you from running your business properly with his insane ridiculous controlling jealousy. How on earth can you put up with this nonsense for a minute? And not see the absolute craziness of this deeply ridiculous man - he 'cries' because he just wants to make you happy then the next minute he's kicking off stopping you going into a friend's house, accusing you of 'cheating' if you've been ten minutes out with the dog? Is that also because poor ickle thing 'just wants to make you happy'?

Let me tell you one thing right now. This piece of crap does not care one tiny shit about you. Or anyone. He's an absolutely abusive nutter who is there TO USE YOU. If you chucked him out, he'd try every nutty trick in the book to get his fat unpleasant ass back on the free soaf eating the free butter, and if that didn't work, he'd shrug his shoulders, call you a cunt and go off to find the next mug. HE DOESN'T CARE - because he is a nasty piece of shit.

Get him out of your life. He is ruining it, and you only have one.

Tell your parents what he's really like, and that he is out, and pack his stuff and put it in binbags and tell him that if he so much as comes anywhere near you you will call the police.

Bananalanacake · 01/12/2020 11:22

He has no right to your home. Has your dad got burly friends who can tell him to leave. Call the police if he refuses. Bet it was his idea to move in with you without any intention of paying towards the bills.

StrippedFridge · 01/12/2020 11:32

He won't be arrested on suicide watch. He will only be arrested if he does something bad. You should be able to get a non-molestation order, breach of which will get him in trouble with the police. You need to talk to the police DV unit for advice and also to Women's Aid. They will help you use the law to best effect to get him away and keep him away.

HastySlander · 01/12/2020 11:42

This is such a horrid post to read OP. Please make plans to get out and get out quickly. Try and get someone to be there when you leave it sounds like he could turn extremely violent if necessary. Abusive arseholes like this always threaten suicide when things aren’t going their way, mine did. I always thought as well he can’t be abusive he doesn’t hit me. Actually he was sexually and financially abusive and controlling in lots of ways. You’re so much better than this, I am 27 now and left when I was 23 if you want to talk feel free to PM me.

MissDoLots · 01/12/2020 12:36

Christ he is terribly abusing you. Please leave ASAP. Id call the police and ask them to come and get you before this man kills you.

Seriously awful abuse OP and a cocklodger to boot.

NONE of this is part of a normal loving relationship

Yohoheaveho · 01/12/2020 12:40

I think you need to back away swiftly but carefully, he sees you as a possession over which he has absolute rights

MrsPnut · 01/12/2020 12:48

Who owns the house you live in? Can you change the locks and leave his belongings outside?

Contact your local domestic abuse service and ask them to help you get a non molestation order so that if he comes near you again, he can be arrested.
Him threatening to kill himself and punching himself in the face is all drama designed to keep you doing what he wants - it's nothing that the domestic abuse workers won't have heard before.

And do the Freedom programme - learn about all of these red flags and what you should expect from a good respectful relationship.

user1471565182 · 01/12/2020 12:49

Fucking hell, this weird wanker sounds like the anti santa. Get rid of the abusive POS

StrippedFridge · 01/12/2020 12:50

It is good that you live with your dad. That should make your stbx more cautious about refusal to leave, stalking etc. Is it your dad's place? You should get your dad involved in expelling this dickhead from the house. If the police have to be called as I am sure they will then make sure your dad is there and aware of how scared you are.

Your stbx has a mum who although awful does mean he has a place to stay. He will not be sleeping on the street if you change the locks and leave a bin bag of his clothes on the doorstep.

FangsForTheMemory · 01/12/2020 13:07

Good grief. Leave. And make sure you have someone to support you when you do.

yetanothernamitynamechange · 01/12/2020 13:46

Tell your family. As soon as you start telling people it will be a relief. And then act, safely. If possible seek advice from the police before leaving him. My advice would be to leave as quickly and cleanly as possible, get all of your important stuff out before telling him you are breaking up if possible. Dont let him know you are breaking up with him in advance of that conversation. If you need to pick stuff up do so with a friend. Do not meet him alone ever even if he is threatening suicide.
But get out.

yetanothernamitynamechange · 01/12/2020 13:47

*I meant out of his house/his mums house if you have anything there. But also, pack his stuff up in one go. Ideally have someone else (or 2 other people) hand it over to him not you alone.

Hoppinggreen · 01/12/2020 13:48

Even by only reading the first paragraph I am telling you to leave ASAP

yetanothernamitynamechange · 01/12/2020 13:52

Also, he doesnt NEED to be physically abusive because you are scared of him already (you mention his size and anger repeatedly) so do what he wants anyway.

StrippedFridge · 01/12/2020 13:57

The fact that you do not live with him, he lives with you is a major advantage.

You and your dad have the full legal right to demand that he leaves the house immediately and never returns, or even to lock him out and never let him back in (provided you arrange to return his personal property to him).

If I were you I would seriously consider getting your dad to tell him to leave the house seeing as it is your dad's house, with you not even present. Would your dad do that for you do you think?

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