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Am I a nag??

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starofandromeda · 23/11/2020 21:37

Would be really grateful for any advice you can give me!
I have been married for nearly 5 years and have two children age 4 and 6. I work four days though two of them are short days and my husband works full time from home. He is a business consultant so works to his own hours, often not starting until mid morning.
I have always done everything for the children. Every night cry I have tended to and always been up with them when they wake. I get up in the morning, get the kids up, all of us ready for work and school. My husband is often just getting up as we are leaving. I then work, collect the children and do everything for them until they're finally in bed and I can relax about 9pm. I do all the cleaning , washing, most of the cooking , dog stuff, shopping and homework with children etc. I feel that all my husband really does is work. Until about July of this year he had hardly any work for 12 months and despite doing very little paid work he did nothing else to help in the house, I still did everything for the children/house work etc. The weekends are the same. He lies in bed until sometimes about 10am whilst I'm always up at 7 with the kids. I contributed a lot more financially over the year when he wasn't doing much work (as I increased my hours) and now we contribute roughly evenly to the joint account.

Last night his daughter and her boyfriend were here for dinner (which given covid rules they shouldn't be but I got really ranted at when I suggested they shouldn't be coming at the moment) My husband drank a whole bottle of disaronno, vomited all night and didn't get up until midday. When I got back from work the house was a bombsite and despite the fact I'd cleaned up loads before I even left for work he and his daughter had just made even more mess. I got really angry and said I'm tired of being treated like I'm just here to clean up after everyone. Rather than just say sorry instead he gave me a long tirade about how I do all of this because I want to , it's my own choice, I don't have to be here if I don't want to , that I'm a nag and he can't stand listening to me etc etc. I honestly rarely moan, I just get on with things and sort the kids. I really don't know what to do - I feel completely unappreciated, emotionally battered and just taken for granted. I honestly work so hard and feel that there is no point in this anymore. Please don't say my husband might be depressed because he is 100% not. I'd be grateful for advice as to how to manage things from now - is my husband likely to ever change his behaviour? I have many times asked if he could do more to help and it just seems to fall on deaf ears. I'd love to hear from anyone with a similar experience and what you did! Thank you for reading

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category12 · 24/11/2020 09:08

It's worth getting legal advice on the quiet. He has a claim on your assets, you have a claim on his. No such thing as his house and your house, unless you had a pre-nup that would stand up. But with kids in the mix, the position can change.

I'd use this month of grace you're giving him to find out exactly where you stand legally and financially.

WelliesWithHeels · 24/11/2020 09:14

@category12

It's worth getting legal advice on the quiet. He has a claim on your assets, you have a claim on his. No such thing as his house and your house, unless you had a pre-nup that would stand up. But with kids in the mix, the position can change.

I'd use this month of grace you're giving him to find out exactly where you stand legally and financially.

Completely agree. Use this "quiet phase" to get things in order and learn what your rights are and mull over what would be the best outcome for you and your children. Hope for the best, plan for the worst.
TyroTerf · 24/11/2020 09:18

he gave me a long tirade about how I do all of this because I want to , it's my own choice, I don't have to be here if I don't want to , that I'm a nag and he can't stand listening to me etc etc

Take him at his word. You and your fourteen hour working days - spent earning money and raising your children and maintaining a decent standard of living for the family - are obviously upsetting him dreadfully and making it super hard for him to enjoy skiving off and getting pissed and generally living like a teenager. So leave. He's given you his blessing and it's not like he gives you anything else (except stress).

You're doing it all anyway. If he's there, you're consumed by the stress of knowing you're doing everything because he won't be an equal partner and won't even let you air this grievance. If he's not there, you'll still be doing everything and you'll be able to take pride in the bloody good job you're doing. And you won't have to wash his socks and tidy up his drunken messes - bonus!

PandemicImpact · 24/11/2020 09:21

Yes, stop doing anything for him and plan to leave.

standupsitdownturnaround · 24/11/2020 09:40

Agree with pp about legal advice OP. You need to do this without alerting him really though, if you plan to keep living together. It might get very strained otherwise.

Haven't been through this myself but I assume you might need to gather proof of how much childcare you do. Easy enough to keep a diary or calendar for all the school pick ups.

SecretDoor · 24/11/2020 09:47

Speak to a relative or friend and get some real life support

LiG123 · 24/11/2020 10:11

I'd defo end it. You're worth more than that. You say it's his house but you've been paying more at some points into your joint acc. Is it his mortgage you're paying?

Aerial2020 · 24/11/2020 11:10

Stop doing it.

Badwill · 24/11/2020 11:18

That would be a big fat LTB from me! You're doing it all anyway you'll cope just fine and it will be easier with less people to clean up after and no resentment

starofandromeda · 24/11/2020 11:55

Yes it’s the resentment I find hard to cope with. It really builds up over time. I never used to feel cross but I do now!
Yes LiG123 it’s his mortgage and it comes from the joint account which I pay into. For about 12 months when he wasn’t working it was only really me paying into that account.

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JillofTrades · 24/11/2020 11:56

ather than just say sorry instead he gave me a long tirade about how I do all of this because I want to , it's my own choice, I don't have to be here if I don't want to , that I'm a nag and he can't stand listening to me etc etc. I honestly rarely moan, I just get on with things and sort the kids.

Well he is partly right though isnt he? Why are you there putting up with this? You are making a choice to do that. If you can manage financially then you really have no excuse to not do something about this.
Look at his daughter, she seems alot like him. He has no reason to change, but you can change your life for the better.

standupsitdownturnaround · 24/11/2020 12:31

OP were you paying over 50% of his mortgage for an extended period?

And then did you drop down to paying 50% or did he pay you back by paying the bulk for a few months?

BluebellsGreenbells · 24/11/2020 12:36

Get some legal advise and make plans to leave

Get your paperwork in order

starofandromeda · 24/11/2020 12:48

Yes for 12 months I was paying a lot more (as in over 50%). They’re were some months when he didn’t put anything at all into the joint account. There have been months like this previously over the six year but the 12 months until July this year were the longest I’ve had to manage without him contributing much. He’s earning and contributing now but keeps most of his money in his company account (apparently for tax purposes) He is paying enough in now though at least....

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CupoTeap · 24/11/2020 16:33

I think now you are seeing the light you'd not be able to last 6 months!

AryaStarkWolf · 24/11/2020 16:43

Nag is just one of those words men invented to shut women down and avoid having to do any house work. No wants to be the dreaded "nag"

LannieDuck · 24/11/2020 19:16

What's his reason for not pulling his weight at weekends? Or when he was off work?

Does he admit he's lazy?

standupsitdownturnaround · 24/11/2020 20:17

So you paid for some of his share of accommodation for almost a year AND it was paying down his mortgage?

Is there a plan to reset that balance a little now he's earning?

He could maybe pay for a cleaner if he doesn't want to do it himself and order take away or a caterer for half the nights of the week.

starofandromeda · 24/11/2020 20:25

LannieDuck - He would always say that although he wasn't working much for that year he spent a lot of time looking for work. He did but he didn't spend as much time doing that as I did actually working! He is not a morning person at all and at weekends if he says he's going to get up with the kids he ends up telling them off when they wake up at 7 as he says it's 'too early' and then they go back to bed crying and I get up as I hate seeing them upset. This has led to massive arguments in the past and he just says he can't cope with early mornings so I do it as I hate to see the children upset.
Standupsitedownturnaround - yes there have been many months when it was only myself that paid his mortgage. He is paying more into the joint account now that he's earning yes so that's a relief as it was an awful 12 months. A cleaner is a good plan I think - will definitely consider thank you

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themuttsnutts · 24/11/2020 20:32

Selfish arse Say you'll give up your job if you're having to do everything

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