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I love someone who I only met once(Male advice please)

114 replies

Donnowhattodo · 06/11/2020 00:51

I am not sure where to stand with my relationship. I appreciate if any male members could advise on this matter, please?

Shortly, I am still on my divorce process and my ex has a girlfriend and they are looking forward their marriage as soon the divorce finalised. I met a Pisces businessman online during lockdown. He contacted me. I live in the North East. He lives in London, is very educated and has a successful life. So I doubted him at first and asked him directly « why me? There are so many young and beautiful women out there and in London. I am very far from you, I have a young child to look after, I am not succeeded like you»He goes to Edinburgh sometimes and business trip abroad sometimes as well. We chatted every day but mostly I was the person who started mostly with tones of questions and his responses were always one or two words so made me kind of mysterious. When he talks always very short but gave me the impression of getting to the point. I asked him everything I wanted to know and he answered but very short but never ignored me. He never asked me anything( well, I told him what I wanted him to know about me and my life and my son) and he said it’s enough to know about me and he is happy with all. When we talk on video, always very short kind of like hi and then bye. I understood he is a very busy man. sometimes a bit of intimacy went on, then our conversation went longer.

He planned to come up here for the first date after lockdown eased. I was so excited. He said «I don’t know if I could manage(not to have sex) when I meet you on the first date but I will try»

However, the all trains were cancelled or delayed on that day due to some electric wire issue(?) and the terminal announced that they were trying to fix but expecting it in 24 hours. I told him to go back home this time but he made it after more than 5 hours waiting at the train station plus hours of the train journey. I honestly was so moved and thought I would never ever regret my life with this person. When he arrived it was so late we couldn’t go out so we cuddled in a hotel room shortly. Importantly, he did what he promised. He added, «If a man has sex on a first date, that means he is not serious». I went back home and the next day we had a short date and he went back to London. We even bumped into his old a friend who he grew up with near London ( What a coincidence!)

After that, he was going to come up again but he got Covid-19 after Turkey trip so he couldn’t come( he showed me the test result too). When I heard it my heart sank because I now fell in love with him. He was a bit ill but beat the virus. I was going to go to London to meet him after he recovered but now the second lockdown has started.

One night, I lost my phone so asked him to ring me via my computer app. He didn’t ring me but texted me. «Poor you» « I am resting up early tomorrow» simple, short message. In the end, I found my phone. This kind of situation happened not only once but quite a lot of times, actually, I have been adapting with him.
so Next day, I complained about why he didn’t ring me but text, said I felt that I am the one who is chasing and not been looked after. He excused that he was looking after his mum with some documents thingy even though his mum doesn’t live with him. That didn’t convince me. he said his mum has kidney problem so I asked him does she need surgery? He said «no». She is taking medicine. That means nothing urgent so no reason not to ring me. But I told him ” I understand” that actually I don’t understand at all.

Since I met him. I believe that he didn’t say any lies apart from that excuse because there were no signs or reasons that he would lie to me. That is 100% clear. but what I am not happy about is that he doesn’t contact me often. I am the one who says « good morning» first. I am the one who says «good night» first. Sometimes, he doesn’t response. Sometimes he doesn’t answer of my questions. I purposely didn’t message him a couple of times including tonight. As I expected, he didn’t message me.

So my head has been getting very confused recently. But then again he always has been more or less similar from the beginning. May be me? because I am getting stressed in this awful time? because I am desperate? I asked him «do you like me?» he said « yes» I asked him again « do you love me» he said «yes». I asked him more «can you introduce me as your girlfriend to people» he answered « of course» I asked him « if I am sick such as Covid-19, can you postpone everything and come up here and stay with me until I get better or hold my hand at the last moment?(Because you are immunised for short a while» he said «if you had covid-19 of course I would come. If you need anything you can ask, money, anything. Don’t worry» even though I didn’t ask him anything, I even said I can afford things couple of times before.

I complained twice in whole time ”I want to hear your voice at least once a day or kind messages even though they are short because those truly make my day.

I am very confused. A man who says he loves me... why the hell he is not contacting me??? I don’t think he is a player. I don’t think he is lying. Then why?? If a man loves a woman, would he not want to talk with her lover whenever he gets a spare minute? or is it really come down to individual? I already complained twice. I don’t want to complain the same thing again and again. I don’t want to be the pusher or stressing him out. Mostly, I don’t think he would change and I am getting fed up of all but I love him.

OP posts:
user17163254865 · 06/11/2020 04:45

He doesn't love you.

He sounds spectacularly manipulative.

JarOfCanaries · 06/11/2020 05:14

Yes I'm in camp married too

litterbird · 06/11/2020 05:21

Crikey OP, firstly please don't give any money to this man, secondly please just block and move on. Finally, figure out why you have invested so much so soon to a man who doesn't live anywhere near you and does not treat you very well.

dangerrabbit · 06/11/2020 05:21

I suggest you forget about this game player and focus on grieving for your divorce. Your ex has moved on and it seems you want to as well perhaps you show your ex how over him you are, but don't just latch onto the first fantasy figure that comes along. There are decent men out there which you can find and date once you have had a chance to he single and focus on loving and caring for yourself.block this guy's number he's just going to cause you more pain and stop your progression.

Gaoth · 06/11/2020 05:29

This is one of the oddest things I’ve ever read on here. He’s permanently unavailable, monosyllabic, only responds when travelling, and his idea of romancing you is to tell you he would try not to have sex with you on your first (and only) date — when you say ‘intimacy’ occurs on your calls, do you mean phone sex?— and you’ve met him once, and are completely obsessed?

Pull yourself together, OP. Yes, he’s almost certainly married, but quite apart from that fact, he’s completely uninterested in you!

RickJames · 06/11/2020 06:03

Him: Married/ ambivalent about you/ creepy/ deceptive.

You: Needy/ naïve.

Please drop this nonsense and concentrate on yourself and your son. Just because your ex has moved on doesn't mean you need to take up with someone. Sorry to be harsh but I cant believe people still fall for these type of scammers/ creeps, they are so obvious! Also please, if you get an email from a Nigerian prince - dont send him any money.

movingonup20 · 06/11/2020 06:18

In answer to your initial question, yes - in fact dp claims he knew before we met in person. As to your actual situation, I do think you need to meet with a level head - it's only months down the line dp told me when I admitted I had fallen for him, you cannot know what the other us thinking. Covid is making life tricky so be cautious, you can't know if it's all one way at the moment

Lampan · 06/11/2020 07:17

Run a mile from anyone who declared love so early on, especially when they are clearly married too.
A good way of telling someone isn’t that into you is when you find yourself making excuses to justify their behaviour - “he’s a very busy man”, “he doesn’t like technology” etc
It’s highly unlikely he is who he says he is anyway.

HaggieMaggie · 06/11/2020 07:19

Why are you asking for male advice when there are 1000s of women on here that have been there and got the tshirt and are far more likely to a) have experience b) tell you the truth.

Nicolastuffedone · 06/11/2020 07:30

SCAM SCAM SCAM

Donnowhattodo · 06/11/2020 07:53

He is definitely not married, providing the evidence that when we bumped into his old friend when he visited me, he talked about that his ex left him after the party that his old friend were there, etc.

Another thing that he made me moved was; he fell in love with a much older woman who already had 4 children. Their marriage lasted just over 10 years but he didn’t have his own children due to her age. He adopted her 4 children because their father died during his marriage. Sounded like he didn’t have a choice or it was natural to do that. He paid all of them for private schools even after divorce because his ex wanted. So I asked him ” did you go to the Court?” he said ”no”

I believe he is not married and I believe there is no reason he contacted me only to play with me. He could do all with other young and single women in London.

I am one year younger than him. We are heading to 50s. He said he liked my long honest profile and he thinks that he would have a balanced life with me and completed. It was too good to be truth for me. so I sneakily checked his Linked in profile and other background checks. Everything he said was true, he sent me his company’s leaflet too. How not to believe him!

He is still under the vail for me because he doesn’t talk about his daily life at all so I feel I am chasing the cloud and told him about my feeling too. I still doubt about long distance relationship because I see myself that I am struggling with him. maybe not because of the distance because of his behaviour that looks like he doesn't put his effort into as much as I do, or all relationship should.

OP posts:
Kcar · 06/11/2020 07:56

He may or may not be married but he’s a billy bullshitter.

Run.

Pollynextdoor · 06/11/2020 07:58

He is choosing you because you seem vulnerable and accept his bullshit. I also think Scam rather than married.

Sunshineandflipflops · 06/11/2020 08:00

You barely know this man, it's not a relationship, let alone love.

It seems doomed from the start with the distance, lack of availability on his part (emotional and physical) and the amount of questioning you are already doing.

He could have numerous other women on the go who he is doing exactly the same thing with.

Let this one go, either work on your self esteem if this is all you think you and your daughter are worth or find someone who's actions match their words.

Hazelnutlatteplease · 06/11/2020 08:07

He is married. He got in first with discussion about his ex with the friend so as to not arouse suspicion. Yes he has a Facebook, but it well hidden because it will be obvious he is still with the wife.

You are better than someone where he lives or works because then there is no potential cross over. He can tell you anything and you have absolutely no way of verifying it. No chance of mutual friends
Or acquaintances to blow his cover. You have absolutely no chance of finding out the truth. He can protect his comfortable primary relationship and pursue a when it's convenient relationship with you.

You are vulnerable because you are nieve enough to believe him.

Somethingkindaoooo · 06/11/2020 08:11

Op
Gather your dignity.
Stop chasing him
Stop acting so desperate.

CodenameVillanelle · 06/11/2020 08:14

You have a child for goodness sake. You can't afford to fall in love with weird internet scam guys after one date. Grow up.

rosabug · 06/11/2020 08:20

What RickJames says.

You need to get wise before you even think about dating. Or else you will get totally screwed over. In fact I would suggest that you don't do online dating - ever. This guy will have tried countless (countless), wiser women, before you took the bait. I would also say it is likely he is talking to more than one women at the same time, in the same way. I also suspect the guy is a little bored, because you are such an easy 'mark'.

I think some therapy might be useful for you also, you need to get to the bottom of why you became so emotionally obsessive so quickly with a phantom (he's not 'real' - don't you see? - you are projecting).

MrsOf4 · 06/11/2020 08:41

OP he is married and a liar. He ' met' his old mate from school in the North East ? More likely as he told his wife he was away for the night on business, to cover his back. Bet his friend had someone to spend the night with too - then they toddle back to London to the poor wives.
Bet his 'mate' works with him too.
LIAR and CHEAT.

TheQueef · 06/11/2020 08:49

Your fanny gallops are carrying you straight in to heartache.
You don't believe he is married(he is) and are scrabbling about to explain any oddities of red flags.

He's a wrong un and you will get hurt or scammed.

thecatsarecrazy · 06/11/2020 08:52

Ok I didn't read all of that but I'm in a similar situation. He love bombed me, drove from Yorkshire to Devon to meet me, I thought awww he must care to drive all that way, he said he didn't want to have sex first meeting because he wanted to prove himself to me, few weeks later tells me he loves me. It's all bollocks op. Last week he's almost in tears because he's out of a job and skint. I was almost stupid enough to offer money but didn't. He's devaluing me now. Less texts, no nice things said to me, few phone calls other than to talk about himself. He's never asked anything about me and is obviously bored when I say anything. I have his name saved as Lucifer on my phone now. Be careful please pm if you want because it sounds similar to me.

LaMarschallin · 06/11/2020 08:53

He is definitely not married, providing the evidence that when we bumped into his old friend when he visited me, he talked about that his ex left him after the party that his old friend were there, etc.

We even bumped into his old a friend who he grew up with near London ( What a coincidence!)

Yes, wasn't it?

VivaMiltonKeynes · 06/11/2020 08:55

The reason he chooses someone away from London ? Because he is married . There is no chance of the two worlds colliding . Experienced cheaters are well versed in this - they choose women who are naive and who pose no risk to their real life . Either that or he is a scammer . I'm not sure which but you need to block this man and never see or speak to him again . I understand how these types get under your skin . They do it deliberately and then you weave a story around a few words. Block him !

Holyrivolli · 06/11/2020 08:57

I find it hard to believe that anyone could be this naive and gullible. How can you say you love him when you don’t know him? Whether he is married or not, he is simply not that into you and you are appearing crazily obsessed

NotExactlyMrsCurrentAffairs · 06/11/2020 09:00

When you've got your rose tinted specs on, those red flags just look like flags.
Don't waste anymore time or energy on this Man.