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I don't find you attractive but I never want you to leave

86 replies

Totallyconfused90 · 17/10/2020 11:29

This is my first time here. I've been having a lot of problems with my partner. He was the full time single parent before I moved in, not much input from mum. Adapting to step parenting has been a challenge and I'm getting all kinds of things wrong but generally we get on well and have things in common. Problems with partner have always been about sex and intimacy. I've had 2 years of casual sex after a long term relationship, he's had 12 years of bringing up baby. I'll be the first one to admit that I'm not particularly sensitive to this. I want to be but I get it wrong all the time. Neither of us really know what we're doing in a relationship. I love him. He says he loves me. I adore his child and his dog. We've lived together over a year. But things in the bedroom have got steadily worse in that time. I packed on Monday. I haven't unpacked yet. I feel trapped. I'm sure he does too. I so desperately want things to work. We had a better day and had sex. I felt really happy but this just seemed to aggravate him. He still felt the problems, I did too but how dare I be so happy. He is drinking and smoking so much now and I don't know how to reach him. Everything I do makes things worse, including doing nothing at all. He has just told me that he doesn't find me attractive in any way but doesn't want me to leave, doesn't ever want me to leave and I feel so confused.

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CodenameVillanelle · 17/10/2020 15:48

YOU'VE dug him into a hole? Are you crazy?

Whatever the sexual dynamic was between you at the start that was his responsibility to be ok with it not to engage with. You didn't do anything. He doesn't fancy you. He just wants you around for childcare and emotional support. Go get some therapy and leave him, please!!

Helmetbymidnight · 17/10/2020 15:52

hes a lousy partner, dump him, move on, dont make excuses for him, dont look back Flowers

Dery · 17/10/2020 16:03

“He really has done a number on you. Why are you blaming yourself for his problems? I keep hearing this in his voice, he's blaming you for this because he knows the effect it will have on you. He is responsible for the state he is in, not you.”

This. He may have issues from his childhood but only he can fix those. What he’s actually trying to do is diminish you as much as possible so that you’re grateful to be with him and waste all your potential. He is destroying you.

It is not your job to live his life for him. Your job is to live yours. Life is not a dress rehearsal and we get just this one shot. You need to make the most of it. This man will do everything you can to stop you just so that he can feel a bit better about himself. That is not love.

He is an emotional vampire and in fact the behaviour you describe is abusive.

You might find it helpful to read Women Who Love Too Much by Robin Norwood.

Please get him gone.

tara66 · 17/10/2020 16:21

Hope the child and dog will be OK if you leave.

Pyewhacket · 17/10/2020 16:27

It’s time to go. Do it now and don’t look back.

Yep, agree with this, totally.

ulanbatorismynextstop · 17/10/2020 16:31

@AdoraBell

As pp have said, he wants you there as a domestic. Pick up your already packed bags and don’t look back.
This
MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 17/10/2020 16:33

Oh do stop rescuing him. You're 30 FFS. With no children. Have some fun and find another purpose in life. You can't fix 43 year old men. He likes your naivety in thinking that you can - a 40 year old woman would not put up with this.

He's no doubt given you all that about how 40 year old women are 'bitter' or 'unattractive'. What he really means is 'know what a liability I am'.

The second he said he didn't find you attractive you should have been out the door. You can get your own kid and dog later.

Chocaholic9 · 17/10/2020 16:39

This is so sad. You need to leave, asap.

MactheRover · 17/10/2020 16:39

He's a stinky self-pitying wanker who is ruthlessly using you as a skivvy and a nanny. You only have one year of this horror show and he has you on your knees. You need to take that packed bag and get the fuck out of there as fast as you can. You are only young, you can have a lovely life if you choose.

FippertyGibbett · 17/10/2020 16:40

Leave. He is using you and will waste your life.

SilverRoe · 17/10/2020 17:01

Oh wow, i’m so sorry he’s done such a number on you. He thinks he was ‘feminised’ because he was a single parent? That’s ridiculous.

He thinks you improving yourself and gaining a qualification which may lead to you out earning him is emasculating him? FFS.

He’s had a bad childhood? Well, so have many people and they don’t use the image of them as a powerless child to manipulate things so they get their way.

You sound like you’re totally caught up in his dramatic tale of woe - one which casts you as both rescuer and the new villain in his life.

This guy is awful - I cannot believe you are taking responsibility for a man THIRTEEN years older than you liking you for a year but not telling you. Somehow that’s made him a victim? Of you and your ‘carelessness’ by not knowing he thought that?

God this man makes my blood boil. He’s a petty, manipulative fucker who is treating you like shit, and getting you to believe it’s your fault / he can’t help himself.

This won’t get better, he’ll suck the life out of you then blame you for the shell of a person you become. I hope you get out before that happens.

ArnieLinson · 17/10/2020 17:08

Op, your Updates arent making this better. Theyre making it much, much worse.

He is awful. Absolutely awful.

SoulofanAggron · 17/10/2020 17:18

He has just told me that he doesn't find me attractive in any way but doesn't want me to leave

He doesn't get to make that call. Surely you don't want to stay with someone who's said he doesn't find you attractive in any way?! That's emotional abuse.

He also sounds whiny and pathetic.

Dontbeme · 17/10/2020 17:38

My inability to talk and help him out of the hole I've dug has ruined this man and he was already pretty broken

OP if you truly believe that do him the kindness of leaving him. If however you think he is spouting nonsense in order to control and manipulate you, do yourself the kindness of leaving. Either way you need to leave, there is nothing to be salvaged here, everyday you stay is another day less that you will thrive in life. This man wants you reduced to nothing to please himself.

SandyY2K · 17/10/2020 17:57

Surely you can do better than a guy 13 years older , with a child and fundamentally openly declares he doesn't find you attractive.

Did you ask him exactly why he doesn't want you to leave?

You'll have a miserable life with him. Start making plans to get out of the relationship...don't settle for less than you deserve.

Forgotmycoat · 17/10/2020 18:32

I think he love bombed you at the beginning when you weren't very interested in him, because these men like a 'challenge'. Now he's devaluing you. It's a cycle. He's a master manipulator. That's why you feel messed up and can't think straight. He likes you confused.

Siw2020 · 17/10/2020 18:33

Hi OP - just food for thought, what are you getting out of this relationship? Be selfish for a moment, what is he adding to your life and you wouldnt have if you walked away?

Bananalanacake · 17/10/2020 19:46

There is no point whatsoever in living with a man you don't have dc with If he makes you feel crap in any way. Live separately and still see him, if you want to.

pinkyredrose · 17/10/2020 20:14

What's the point of continuing a sham of a relationship with a guy who has you tied in knots thinking that you're responsible for his issues? I mean really?

Start househunting asap, you'll feel so much more free without his crap bringing you down.

Maze76 · 18/10/2020 02:00

He’s told you that he’s not attracted to you. The fact that those words left his mouth, says all you need to know. This is not on you- this is his problem/ issue. You’re 30, do not waste anymore of your time with him.

katy1213 · 18/10/2020 02:24

You couldn't make this pathetic, impotent whiner sound any more unattractive. There is life and fun and sex out there without him. You don't need him. Get a dog of your own.

myshoelaces · 18/10/2020 02:32

What the fuck are you talking about op? Jesus listen to yourself. I'm embarrassed for you.

JayeAshe · 18/10/2020 08:59

OP, listen, you are not obliged to be anyone's saviour. How did you get the idea that this was your role ? Believe me, because I recognise your thought processes, I stayed far too long in an unsuitable relationship for reasons similar to yours. It ended dramatically and unpleasantly and it hurt to leave. But I grew from the experience, and later - after some work on my thinking - met and married a lovely guy.

To do all this, I had to accept that I did not own the power to save anyone else, only to change myself.

So look after yourself first for now. Take heed of the wisdom that PPs have shared.

PicsInRed · 18/10/2020 14:00

He doesnt want you happy, he wants you dulled of mind, extinguished of want and need and to be entirely occupied domestic labouring for him - for free.

I would be very surprised if he is as celibate as you are in this relationship. It you became unwell and unable to labour, you would be immediately dumped and kicked out. He has less regard for you than an employee and that is the cold hard truth of it.

PegasusReturns · 18/10/2020 14:11

He’s a wife beating; animal abusing; sorry excuse for a father who smokes and drinks too much, can’t get it up and, AND treats you like shit, but the icing on the cake is that you, YOU think you should somehow do/be better.

WTF OP?! What on Earth and you getting from this?

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