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Am I being selfish?

37 replies

CryHen · 16/10/2020 21:32

I’m not sure if this is the right place to post this. I desperately need to vent but feel unable to speak to anyone I know due to fear of being judged or called selfish.

My partner’s daughter reached out to him last weekend. They hadn’t had contact for a number of years (mother is a piece of work, but that’s another story). They’ve been messaging non-stop since and met up a couple of times. That was all fine - I was happy for him. Genuinely.
Tuesday morning I went for a routine eye appointment which escalated rather quickly. Optician explained her concerns about my photos (some scan-type thing of the back of the eyes?). I’ve had awful headaches for over a year but doctor put it down to muscles in neck. Dashed out to get a phone to call the hospital who tell her that they want me down there ASAP. She’s quickly writing out this letter, I’m sat crying in the chair because all I heard was pressure + brain and came up with brain tumour. I leave the opticians, get in the car. I cry and cry. Call my partner - doesn’t really seem bothered. So I call my dad who drops work to meet me at the hospital. At the hospital I’m carted off for different scans and tests. No ones really told me what’s going on. I then go in to see the doctor who explains about this pressure and tells me that it could be this condition to do with the levels of fluid surrounding my brain (the most common cause), but that my symptoms also mirror that of a brain tumour and that that needs to be ruled out before we go any further. So I’m now awaiting an MRI next week followed by an appointment with a neurologist. Now is a good time to mention that I have severe anxiety. I had a particularly bad “episode” mid September and for the first time in my life I’ve decided to give talking therapy a try rather than just popping the pills I’m prescribed and hoping for the best. Naturally, following everything that happened Tuesday, I can’t help but think the worst and everything that comes with that. I’m a mother of 3 and my children are all I can think about. What their life would be like without me. The effect it would have on them. Thats the bit that I can’t handle.

Here’s the problem: my partner has barely said 2 words to me. He’s been so wrapped up in his daughter that it’s like me/our kids don’t exist anymore. His phone is glued to his hand every second of the day. He’s completely ignoring the kids and completely ignoring me. He hasn’t once asked if I’m ok or how I’m feeling about everything. I tried to talk to him about how that was making me feel and all I got was “well you’d tell me if you weren’t ok” to which I replied “would I?” and he said “I think so” and the conversation ended there. I have cried and cried and cried under the same roof and he hasn’t noticed. I’ve gone off to be alone when it’s got too much and he hasn’t noticed. I’ve cried myself to sleep the last 3 nights and he hasn’t noticed. He hasn’t touched me, nor offered a cuddle. He hasn’t even looked at me. Hasn’t said goodnight to me, or good morning. He stays up until the early hours texting and then he’s up before me and straight back to it. I think people will probably think that I’m exaggerating when I say constantly, but it really is constantly. He’s fulfilling his basic needs (normally with his phone in his hand (eating, toilet - phone in hand).

I can’t help but feel really angry and upset at him, but then I’m angry at myself for feeling that way because I know in his mind he’s probably trying to make up for lost time. I just feel like I’m completely on my own with this and have an overwhelming urge to just drive somewhere in my car and scream.

Thoughts?

OP posts:
Fidgety31 · 16/10/2020 21:38

Are you sure it’s his daughter that he’s in contact with ?!

Cantdoitallperfectly · 16/10/2020 21:41

Does he usually say good morning/good night? Does he usually have his phone glued to his hand or is this new behaviour?

I’m so sorry for what’s been going on health wise for you this week - I know how frightening it is to wait for a scan and results. Fingers crossed for you that is nothing too serious.

He sounds completely wrapped up in his own world right now. It’s lovely that he’s back in touch with his daughter but you need some support right now.

Windmillwhirl · 16/10/2020 21:46

I'm so sorry you are going through such a difficult time.

Whilst I understand his need to focus on his daughter now she has reached out to him, not even asking how you are is awful. How is he normally with you? Is he usually caring and loving?

You have every right to be angry and hurt. You are clearly afraid and in need of support....

You shouldn't cease to exist in his eyes because his daughter appears back on the scene, especially given the circumstances of what you are going through

CryHen · 16/10/2020 21:52

@Fidgety31 yes, it’s definitely her as I know his mum has been with him to see her etc. There have been other women on the scene (via message, at least) that I’ve found out about but that’s a whole other story!

@Cantdoitallperfectly he does. We cuddle up in the evening and watch tv. We usually have a cuddle (with extras a few times a week, but I’d be happy with just the cuddle at the moment!) at bedtime. He often picks up on my mood and will bring me in for a cuddle/ask me what’s up and will try and calm me if he can see my thoughts are spiralling. He does spend a lot more time on his phone than me, but not to the extent that everything else is being ignored. But there’s just nothing at all. It’s like I’m not here and nor are the kids. In fact I’m not convinced he’d notice if we all walked out of the front door. Again - sounds like an exaggeration, but I genuinely don’t think he would!

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AskEvans · 16/10/2020 21:56

@Fidgety31

Are you sure it’s his daughter that he’s in contact with ?!
Not a very helpful remark given how understandably worried and anxious the OP is at the moment about her health. OP I am so sorry you are going through this. I will keep all my fingers and toes crossed for you that it all turns out well next week. I'm actually an optometrist and although I cannot comment on you personally as you are not my patient, I can tell you that we refer lots of people for potential signs of pressure in/around the brain and i cannot stress enough that the overwhelming majority do not have life threatening conditions or brain tumours, that is very very rare. The vast majority after tests at the hospital turn out to have nothing wrong.
nimbuscloud · 16/10/2020 22:05

How long are you with your dp? He’s probably overwhelmed with being back in contact with his daughter.

nimbuscloud · 16/10/2020 22:06

And it sounds like the optician and hospital are completely on the ball re your eye health so hopefully you will have an answer very soonFlowers

Weenurse · 16/10/2020 22:10

Good luck with your scans💐

CryHen · 16/10/2020 22:23

@AskEvans thanks so much - that’s really helpful. My son had some photos emailed to the hospital previously (slightly different circumstances, though) however I’d had a call within about an hour of leaving the opticians with him and the on call doctor said that he was happy with the photos and that they didn’t need to see him. My experience seemed very different to his. The lady that referred me seemed genuinely concerned and there was a sense of urgency that certainly wasn’t there with my son’s appointment. I had a call from her this afternoon to “check in” as she said I’d seemed quite upset/a bit shell-shocked and that she knew it had been a lot to take in. I don’t know whether this is standard procedure? Obviously somewhat reassuring to know that the majority of referrals turn out to be fine (the Doctor did say it is more likely to be IIH), but the worry/doubt is always going to be there until the scan results are back!

OP posts:
CryHen · 16/10/2020 22:25

@nimbuscloud 8 years. Opticians and hospital have been absolutely fantastic. Thank you x

OP posts:
CryHen · 16/10/2020 22:26

Thank you @Weenurse Smile

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category12 · 16/10/2020 22:26

Sorry, but I'd think it's not just his daughter he's in touch with at the moment, but she's convenient cover. You say he's got form for messaging other women, I'd be very surprised if he wasn't doing that or more again. It would explain his disengagement from you.

widespreadpanic · 16/10/2020 22:29

Unfortunately reconnecting with his daughter came at a bad time for you. Under normal circumstances it seems he would be a very attentive partner but he’s obviously engrossed with his daughter.

I think he could at least show a little more empathy but like some people I know they can’t handle two emotional situations at once.

I have a guy friend who is not very comforting during situations like this. Until he is told of negative diagnosis he doesn’t think about it. Possibly your DP is the same.

Savemyusername01 · 16/10/2020 22:30

Is he messaging the ex?

thefourgp · 16/10/2020 22:37

I had to get an MRI last year. It’s agony waiting to get it and then waiting for the results. I had different symptoms from you but I was convinced I had a brain tumour and it wasn’t. Do whatever you need to get through this but I’d ditch the partner down the line. There’s no excuse for not fully supporting and comforting you at such a difficult time. The daughter thing is just an excuse. If he truly loved you he would be making time for you. Plus if he’s messaged other women in the past, he’ll do it again. It’s only a matter of time before he physically cheats too.

AskEvans · 16/10/2020 22:40

[quote CryHen]@AskEvans thanks so much - that’s really helpful. My son had some photos emailed to the hospital previously (slightly different circumstances, though) however I’d had a call within about an hour of leaving the opticians with him and the on call doctor said that he was happy with the photos and that they didn’t need to see him. My experience seemed very different to his. The lady that referred me seemed genuinely concerned and there was a sense of urgency that certainly wasn’t there with my son’s appointment. I had a call from her this afternoon to “check in” as she said I’d seemed quite upset/a bit shell-shocked and that she knew it had been a lot to take in. I don’t know whether this is standard procedure? Obviously somewhat reassuring to know that the majority of referrals turn out to be fine (the Doctor did say it is more likely to be IIH), but the worry/doubt is always going to be there until the scan results are back![/quote]
Yes this is standard procedure. We have rules set down over how urgently we have to refer people, depending on what we have seen/found during the eye test, which we have to follow, and what you were referred for is classed as urgent/no delay because there is that very small chance that there is something wrong. It can be confusing for a patient because then when you get to the hospital the doctors can seem very relaxed about it as they dont suspect anything major although they also have procedures that they are have to follow like referring you to the neurologist even if they think it is probably not necessary.

AskEvans · 16/10/2020 22:45

I too will follow up with patients to check they are ok if they have been upset so dont worry.

PostItJoyWeek · 16/10/2020 22:49

How old is the daughter? How come she has the time and inclination to be messaging him at all hours? It seems unlikely.

What seems more likely is he mentally checked out of the relationship a few weeks ago and is messaging lots of women. His daughter getting back in contact could be used as convenient cover. His lack of care for you over this would suggest he no longer feels like he is in a relationship. Sorry.

Hope all goes well medically

AskEvans · 16/10/2020 23:10

Also, any health professional when we are training, it is absolutely drummed into us to recognise the "limits of our knowledge" so that we dont get ideas above our station kind of thing. So for if you get referred from one doctor to another like you did by the doctor to the neurologist, it doesnt necessarily mean he suspects you have got a brain tumour, it is merely him recognising the "limits of his knowledge" that he, although he may be highly qualified in his area, is not qualified to rule that out therefore he is referring you to someone who is. The "limits of knowledge" is there wholly to protect the patient.

lonelySam · 16/10/2020 23:20

He's being a shit partner, estranged daughter or not.
Would he step up his game if you told him you needed his help?

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 16/10/2020 23:26

I would have my doubts that it's his daughter he's messaging

CryHen · 17/10/2020 08:45

Kind of wishing I hadn’t mentioned the bit about other women now as I feel it’s taken the post in another direction.

I am almost certain that there is no other woman involved. He’s not being secretive with his phone. I have looked over and walked behind his back to see what he’s doing and every time he’s messaging his daughter. I’ve also noticed when his phone is on Lock Screen (for very short periods, mind you!) that there is a constant stream of messages coming through from her. I mean every few seconds when he doesn’t reply for a a couple of minutes. I also know the code for his phone and could easily look whilst he’s asleep. But I don’t want to. We addressed the issues previously, and we decided to move forward. Checking his phone every night isn’t moving forward. As mentioned above, his mum has also been to meet her with him. This has ONLY been going on since last weekend (when the daughter came back on the scene). Before that I had no issues or concerns.

Daughter is 12 going on 13. Why she’s going unchecked until the early hours of the morning I don’t know. SS are involved with mum as there are concerns at home. I know that probably doesn’t help as he’s not physically there/it all feels out of his control.

He didn’t see me at all last night once the kids were in bed. I sat in the bathroom for nearly an hour thinking about everything. Then decided to clean said bathroom to take my mind off things. Then went to bed without saying a word to see if he’d notice. He didn’t. I was in bed just after 10pm. He didn’t come up until 1.30am. I was wide awake and had been since I went to bed. He didn’t question why I’d gone to bed or been awake for over 3 hours. Just got into bed and went straight back on his phone. So I went to sleep.

OP posts:
CryHen · 17/10/2020 09:00

Oh, and me and the kids are off out today so he won’t see much of us. I’m up with the kids on my own. He’s in bed dead to the world because he was up until stupid o’clock. Angry

OP posts:
category12 · 17/10/2020 09:03

Oh, if she's in a bad situation at home, it might be that he needs to be at this level of contact.

Are there options for her to come and stay or even live with you?

category12 · 17/10/2020 09:04

I do think you're being unreasonable if his dd is in a home situation of concern to the social services.

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