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Am I being selfish?

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CryHen · 16/10/2020 21:32

I’m not sure if this is the right place to post this. I desperately need to vent but feel unable to speak to anyone I know due to fear of being judged or called selfish.

My partner’s daughter reached out to him last weekend. They hadn’t had contact for a number of years (mother is a piece of work, but that’s another story). They’ve been messaging non-stop since and met up a couple of times. That was all fine - I was happy for him. Genuinely.
Tuesday morning I went for a routine eye appointment which escalated rather quickly. Optician explained her concerns about my photos (some scan-type thing of the back of the eyes?). I’ve had awful headaches for over a year but doctor put it down to muscles in neck. Dashed out to get a phone to call the hospital who tell her that they want me down there ASAP. She’s quickly writing out this letter, I’m sat crying in the chair because all I heard was pressure + brain and came up with brain tumour. I leave the opticians, get in the car. I cry and cry. Call my partner - doesn’t really seem bothered. So I call my dad who drops work to meet me at the hospital. At the hospital I’m carted off for different scans and tests. No ones really told me what’s going on. I then go in to see the doctor who explains about this pressure and tells me that it could be this condition to do with the levels of fluid surrounding my brain (the most common cause), but that my symptoms also mirror that of a brain tumour and that that needs to be ruled out before we go any further. So I’m now awaiting an MRI next week followed by an appointment with a neurologist. Now is a good time to mention that I have severe anxiety. I had a particularly bad “episode” mid September and for the first time in my life I’ve decided to give talking therapy a try rather than just popping the pills I’m prescribed and hoping for the best. Naturally, following everything that happened Tuesday, I can’t help but think the worst and everything that comes with that. I’m a mother of 3 and my children are all I can think about. What their life would be like without me. The effect it would have on them. Thats the bit that I can’t handle.

Here’s the problem: my partner has barely said 2 words to me. He’s been so wrapped up in his daughter that it’s like me/our kids don’t exist anymore. His phone is glued to his hand every second of the day. He’s completely ignoring the kids and completely ignoring me. He hasn’t once asked if I’m ok or how I’m feeling about everything. I tried to talk to him about how that was making me feel and all I got was “well you’d tell me if you weren’t ok” to which I replied “would I?” and he said “I think so” and the conversation ended there. I have cried and cried and cried under the same roof and he hasn’t noticed. I’ve gone off to be alone when it’s got too much and he hasn’t noticed. I’ve cried myself to sleep the last 3 nights and he hasn’t noticed. He hasn’t touched me, nor offered a cuddle. He hasn’t even looked at me. Hasn’t said goodnight to me, or good morning. He stays up until the early hours texting and then he’s up before me and straight back to it. I think people will probably think that I’m exaggerating when I say constantly, but it really is constantly. He’s fulfilling his basic needs (normally with his phone in his hand (eating, toilet - phone in hand).

I can’t help but feel really angry and upset at him, but then I’m angry at myself for feeling that way because I know in his mind he’s probably trying to make up for lost time. I just feel like I’m completely on my own with this and have an overwhelming urge to just drive somewhere in my car and scream.

Thoughts?

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RoseGold7 · 17/10/2020 09:09

@CryHen you need to actually sit him down and explain that you don’t appreciate how he’s glued to his phone and neglecting the family he lives with. Explain that:

  1. You’re really scared about your health right now and need him to be supportive. You felt so alone at those appointments and he doesn’t seem bothered.
  1. He totally ignores his 3 other children that he lives with. He is neglecting them.
  1. He shouldn’t encourage his daughter (if it actually is his daughter...) to stay up texting into the early hours of the morning. She needs to sleep before school.

Also how is she texting him at all hours. Aged 12 she’s at school during the day and should be going bed early on school days... I also feel that this could be his ex or another woman.

firesong · 17/10/2020 09:12

I think for your mental health you need to take a step back from all this focus on him: testing whether he noticed your early bed times, looking over his shoulder at his phone. Genuinely go and focus on other things, read a book, whatever.

I hope that your MRI goes really well and you feel better Thanks

CryHen · 17/10/2020 09:15

He’s liaising with SS at the moment. This has been ongoing for some time but as far as I’m aware there’s no plans to remove them from her care or anything. Concerns are mainly regarding her older two children who are disabled. Mum doesn’t know that they’re in contact. In a nutshell - mum has 2 children with guy no.1. They split, she stops his contact with his children. Mum meets guy 2 (my partner). Has a child, they split, she stops his contact. Mum meets guy 3. Has 2 children, they split, she stops contact.

So she (the daughter) reached out to him via social media. She’s done it before, but mum found out and put a stop to it very quickly (within a day). SS know he’s in contact and are actively encouraging his involvement (with him and with mum, mum is having none of it)

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CryHen · 17/10/2020 09:20

@RoseGold7 I tried to explain to him the other day but was shut down rather quickly by him saying “well you’d tell me if you weren’t ok”, when actually he knows damn well that I won’t. I don’t speak. I don’t know why, I find it really hard. But I will if I’m asked. Otherwise I bottle things up.

So she’s contacting him on lots of different platforms. Apparently they all have tablets at school?! She’s been messaging him on something called Pinterest which is allowed by the school, her school email address, Tiktok, Insta, he was on about some other app yesterday that he was trying to get his mum set up on so she could talk to her too. Granted, it is strange that no one else has picked up on this on her side.

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AriesTheRam · 17/10/2020 09:20

Is it definitely her number? He could have saved someone under her name.Sorry to suggest this but being on MN a long time has turned me into a suspicious shrew.

CryHen · 17/10/2020 09:23

@AriesTheRam it’s not via text, it’s via social media profiles and in lots of different ways, but yes - all her name/photo. I think she only gets a certain amount of messages on some of these apps, particularly the ones at school, so then she’ll move on to another one.

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AriesTheRam · 17/10/2020 09:25

Ah ok fair enough sorry I was being paranoid on your behalf

CryHen · 17/10/2020 09:32

@AriesTheRam totally understandable!

Whatever people think about me/my situation/whether I’m being selfish, I don’t think there’s any excuse for completely ignoring your other children. By that, I don’t mean that he’s playing with them less, not engaging with them as much - I mean completely ignoring. Example - yesterday our 5YO was desperately trying to tell her daddy something. 3 times she tried to tell him (she was sat right next to him) and his eyes did not leave that phone and he just carried on texting. I had to get his attention and ask him to listen to his daughter.

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category12 · 17/10/2020 09:56

Surely the answer is for him to go through the courts and get contact ordered, then he can secure his access to his dd. Then she doesn't have to secretly contact him at all hours and on all platforms, as she will have that security enshrined.

I would encourage him to pursue this properly.

I can imagine it's hard, but he's probably got a bit lost seeing her as the priority, since your dd together is there & safe.

RoseGold7 · 17/10/2020 10:05

[quote CryHen]@RoseGold7 I tried to explain to him the other day but was shut down rather quickly by him saying “well you’d tell me if you weren’t ok”, when actually he knows damn well that I won’t. I don’t speak. I don’t know why, I find it really hard. But I will if I’m asked. Otherwise I bottle things up.

So she’s contacting him on lots of different platforms. Apparently they all have tablets at school?! She’s been messaging him on something called Pinterest which is allowed by the school, her school email address, Tiktok, Insta, he was on about some other app yesterday that he was trying to get his mum set up on so she could talk to her too. Granted, it is strange that no one else has picked up on this on her side.[/quote]
That’s really odd. School children aren’t allowed on their phones and only have access to tablets and PCs in computing, art and tech lessons. It is so odd. Why can’t she just text when she’s home from school? It’s worrying that he can only focus on one child at the time. I know you’ve tried, but you need to tell him again. He can’t continue to neglect his family. That’s a crappy father and husband Sad

RoseGold7 · 17/10/2020 10:08

The part about your 5 year old asking for her dad’s attention and being ignored is so so so sad. That’s disgusting behaviour. Tell him that it is great that he’s back in contact with his daughter, but he needs to step up and stop neglecting the children he lives with.

Thisbastardcomputer · 17/10/2020 15:52

That's completely shit behaviour from him. Re the hospital my friends son and my gp were referred to hospital urgently from the optician, both found out they had brain tumours the same day of the first hospital visit.

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