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Im completely broken... Need to escape

46 replies

DocBob · 08/10/2020 23:03

So long story,

I was a doc in a small hospital, met this nursing student on tinder let’s call her Jana. We got pregnant after a few weeks by accident. My contract finished and I moved to London for a new job.

Jana comes from a broken home in eastern Europe. Her mum is an alcoholic who left when she was small, her dad is not that supportive, he does not like the fact that I am not white but overall, he is ok.

Now doing the right thing, I moved Jana in with me, she put her studies on hold for a year while we had the baby, 6 months after the baby was born, she went back to school. I paid for everything, me and my mum managed the baby so Jana could go to school. I bought her a car and also moved to a new house close to her school, but later we had to move back to London as I could not find work.

I decided to give up my job training and became a contractor, my career does not progress but I reduced my working days to 3 days a week (Friday to Sunday) so I can take care of the baby during the week and I get paid very well so I could afford to support the 3 of us.

Form the start I could see something was not quite right with Jana, I came to understand later that Jana has EUPD / BPD.

3 years down the line my life has become a living hell, Jana is now a nurse. We have a wonderful little 2-year-old girl.

But the levels of abuse I have to put up with is simply unimaginable. I get accused of cheating most days, I come home from work at 1 am and sometimes until 3 or 4 am Jana is accusing me of cheating, I found a little café I like, but if I go there I am accused of going there because there is a blond women working there (I actually have not noticed). I have lost many friends, she somehow does not like most of the people around me for one reason or another.

She says my friend’s wife was a prostitute to get though uni, she is an ICU and anaesthetic consultant and all this because I was once on the phone giving her some advice and did not see Jana was calling me.

I can’t see one of my male friends who has been my friend for 30 years because he is a good-looking guy and she thinks we will go out picking up women or something.

My parents do a huge amount to help us, they drive 2 hours to pick up and drop of the baby any time we need. There is no limit to the number of days they will keep the baby if we need, because my dad is so fond of the baby (he was a very involved parent to us) Jana at one point started to say he may be sexually abusing the baby.

Jana has hit my a few times. In shock I called the police twice, Jana simply told me she will tell the police I hit her if I report it. Jana has been aggressive with the baby many times since she was born, I have called social services. They did nothing.
She lives in a flat I own, the only defence I have it to tell her she has to move out, but then she says I am abusing her by threating to kick her out.

Her mood changes within seconds, she may be ready to kill me min and then within a few min she is jumping on me kissing me. Its nuts.

I walk on eggshells all the time, I latterly cannot do anything without getting accused of cheating in some way. I took some takeaway food in for people at work. We bring in food for each other from time to time. I then get accusations.

We are on holiday, Jana likes to sunbathe, the baby sleeps for 3h in the afternoon so I took the baby to bed and sat in a dark room while she slept. I then get accused of going back to the room so I can text someone.
Once Jana came back to the room to sleep also so I thought I would go for a walk in the hotel to have a look around. I then get accused of wanting to leave so I can look at women, so I just sat on the balcony for 3 hours.

I used to be a confident fun guy; this has been slowly stolen from me.

In general Jana is good with the baby but if she has to take care of her for anything over 2 or 3 days things start to fall apart and she gets stressed. I do everything I can to protect the baby, I take her out and walk around the local parks and streets for half the day so that Jana has time to de stress and calm down.

Jana says this is my fault she is like this, because once 3 years ago a friend who I once had a drunken encounter with sent me a message because her dad had a stroke and asked me for advice. I responded with my advice but this somehow is held against me years down the line.

Jana has tracked down everyone I have dated and stalks them all on social media while I was made to delete all number and remove all the girls form my past on FB (I’m not in contact so I don’t really care).

I have had dirty underwear rubbed in my face because I was accused of pleasuring myself.

I almost lost my job because Jana stole some patient information from my bag so she could use it against me. I had to report this to my work.
I have lost work in the past because she does not like the fact that the agent who finds me work is a woman who I communicate with via sms.

Jana has had therapy which has been a huge improvement but still its bubbling in the background and I’m simply broken now.

She still drinks too much, her impulsive behaviour is much better.

I have asked her to move out, which I have done many times before. I am really trying to be strong and stick to it but really the only thing that is important is the baby. I am generally the main parent now and could drop to 2 day a week and still make very good money.

I can’t leave because I own the house and I can’t just kick her out.
Honestly, I don't cheat, I dont even want to.

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Anordinarymum · 08/10/2020 23:31

So much to take in here my head hurts. The baby stays with you no matter what happens ?

Erol12 · 09/10/2020 00:29

This is abuse. I know you want to stay with her but you need to start heavily recording the episodes for future reference In court
Bpd ( if you are certain) and the the paranoia etc means that you made an honest mistake. Make your case strong with the authorities and run with your baby away from her

MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 09/10/2020 01:03

Holy shit. EUPD can be a very serious PD and this is a perfect example of how bad it can get. You have to get her out, and go for 50/50 custody more of you can.

You have to. It's not an option.

Bilboard · 09/10/2020 01:27

Jana needs medication/ keep the treatment going. This is not new to her or anyone who knows her.
She's clearly a troubled soul. I am sorry.
You need to get out, even if it means to leave her in the flat you own. You 'll will be better off in the long term . Your mental health is so much worth than the flat.
Once you are out you'll be able to see things clearly and get a plan put together. Before you do anything though, I would contact Women's Aid. They 'll be able to direct you on what to do/ who to contact next.

DisorganisedPurpose · 09/10/2020 01:37

You have a good job. Let Jana have the flat. At least for now until you can sort things out legally. You get another flat. Work 5 days a week to afford it. Get a day nanny for the baby. I don't think Jana is safe to look after the baby.

Monty27 · 09/10/2020 01:52

Why are you even still with this person

SuckingDownDarjeeling · 09/10/2020 02:15

I'm sorry, this is such an awful situation for you to be in. Mental illness or not, you deserve a stable and happy life with your chosen partner. The parent who should have the majority of the time with the child is the parent that provides the best and most consistent care for that child, and that's you. I understand that the default is usually the mother, and based on a lot of the things I see on this site I think that's for the best, but in your situation you absolutely need to keep your baby girl with you. I would say supervised access only as Jana has abused the baby in the past.

I appreciate this might be the most stupid suggestion on the planet, but given the circumstances I'm wondering if you should call women's aid. On the basis that you have concerns about a woman, and the effect it's having on your female child. Although they might not be able to help you directly, I think they could put you on the right track because right now your head must be all over the place.

Keep posting here in the mean time. You're not wrong to be worried. You've done your best. You're a good person.

SuckingDownDarjeeling · 09/10/2020 02:17

@Monty27

Why are you even still with this person

Oh and don't worry, people say this to abused women too. All over MumsNet. @DocBob just ignore these comments. You're a human being.

ulanbatorismynextstop · 09/10/2020 04:48

The police will help you kick her out, I was in a similar position as you. Kept asking my ex to leave, he wouldn't, I phoned 101 to ask police for advice. I asked if I had a right to kick him out and would they uphold it if things turned nasty? They sent police officers to my home, they listened to me, then they arrested my ex, took him to the cells overnight. Lord knows what they said to him, when he cane back he realised he was in the wrong and had to move or I would get him arrested again. He's been gone 6 months now and I'm happy, we share custody of our child but he's a good dad and it's working well. Good luck op Thanks

AFitOfTheVapours · 09/10/2020 07:42

This sounds horrendous and I echo everyone else in saying you need to get out with your DC.

If that’s going to take time to sort out, please get some cameras installed and call the police every time she is violent. That way you can protect yourself against her accusations and build up sone evidence and a paper trail of her behaviour when you need it to gain custody.

Is there a male version of women’s aid? Hopefully someone will be able to tell you.

Finally, you (understandably) sound at rock bottom. Please get yourself a good counsellor and start venting.

Good luck to you.

LondonLassi · 09/10/2020 08:08

My sister has BPD. As much as I love her she is toxic, manipulative and dangerous. Her partner recently left her after years of abuse, he waited until she went out and then quickly packed his things, blocked her on his phone and actually left the country for a few weeks. It was the only way he could leave safely. I know you can’t do that but you do need to leave somehow. She is never going to get better. Give her the flat, take the baby and find a new home. Do whatever it takes to get out. I completely understand what you are going through because I have also been on the receiving end of BPD abuse, it is frightening. I’m so sorry you’re going through this.

Foreverlexicon · 09/10/2020 11:28

Speak to the police. They can help set up a DVPN (domestic violence protection notice) which can order her to leave your flat and will give her conditions not to return/contact you for up to 30 days. If she breaches this, she can be arrested.

I can see you have tried hard to support her but this isn’t going to get better and MH or not, it’s abuse and no way for you to live. It can be hard for men to report domestic abuse but I really urge you to do this. Police are much more switched on these days and they aren’t going to assume she is a victim just because she’s female.

willloman · 09/10/2020 11:34

Please don't leave things as they are. Start recording incidents on your phone or get a nanny cam. Easier to do than you think. When you have enough on tape, sell the flat and move out closer to your parents and push for sole custody.
This is no way to bring up a child.
Maybe offer Janna a holiday back to see her family, and then get your ducks in a row.

justilou1 · 09/10/2020 11:53

I was going to suggest the nanny cam too. I understand that it’s harder to prove abuse when you’re a man. There is also a fear of the stigma, and you have your job and your child to consider. I imagine that it would be really easy for her to play the victim if she wanted to. I also suspect she is trying to provoke you into reacting. My mother was very much like Jana and I have ten broken limbs before my ninth birthday. You need to protect your little girl any way you can. Maybe even hire a PI to set up honeytrap. (Make him appear rich and a more attractive catch than you.)

Henio · 09/10/2020 12:32

My god what you're having to put up with is horrific 😔 I agree with others, you need to get yourself and your daughter out of this situation

JorisBonson · 09/10/2020 12:41

You poor man.

Please get in touch with Menkind who may be able to offer practical advice.

Agree that you need to take your DC and get as far away as possible.

JorisBonson · 09/10/2020 12:41

www.mankind.org.uk/

SuckingDownDarjeeling · 09/10/2020 13:22

How are you doing today @DocBob ? Do you feel any closer to having a plan of action?

Hotpinkangel19 · 09/10/2020 13:28

This is absolutely awful, you shouldn't have to live like this.

contrary13 · 09/10/2020 19:16

My daughter has NPD with traits of EUPD thrown in for good measure - and what you've just described, @DocBob , is literally (a) what my son and I live with on a day-to-day basis, and (b) my worst nightmare for the future as she's dating a man who has a 2 year old child.

You need to separate from her, but carefully. Involve the police to remove her from your child's home - and be assured that, as another poster said, the police will see through her "he hits me!" lies. Be aware, though, that she will lie, and she will rewrite history so that you're the one people will blame for her behaviours. You have to be prepared for her to have a full on... tantrum, for lack of a better word. You've undoubtedly already witnessed her throwing them, to get her own way/you to back down. And now your little girl is old enough to start copying Jana's behaviours - not through malicious intent, because she knows no better, but because she'll see them working on you. You have to prevent that from happening (I was very fortunate in that my son didn't mirror his older sister's behaviours - there's a big age gap - but also know that there was a very big chance that he could have done).

The accusations of sexual abuse that Jana literally threw out there against your father (because that's what they were - and again, you need to be prepared for her to accuse him again, and again, and again... and for whoever listens to her, to report him/you to the police) are, again, typical of BPD. The one thing that the other people in the support group and I have in common, is the false accusations of abuse. My daughter lied to the police in order to have me charged with assaulting her (I was arrested and released without any charges being brought, before her diagnosis - and yes; I was lucky!), in the hope that her younger brother would be taken into care. God alone knows what she thought would happen to her, because she was still living in my house, and if I'd been put in prison (which with the DV laws changing, may have happened) and my son put into care... she would have been homeless! Why do they falsely accuse others? So that they can portray themselves as being the victim of others cruel misdeeds. To gain others sympathy for long enough to reel them in... and then do the same to them when they get bored.

As I mentioned above, my daughter is dating a man with a child... whom she speaks of disparagingly (to me) and lovingly (when the boyfriend is around). Her last boyfriend literally ran away to the other end of the country, once he'd realised her true personality - but this one is completely captivated by her. I can't tell him what she's like, because she still lives in my home and I have a 16 year old to consider. But I'm waiting for the day she has this one trapped, a ring upon her finger, and then for all hell to break loose. Because - and this is the thing with personality disorders, I'm afraid - they literally can't stop themselves from being sly, nasty, cruel, manipulative liars. I certainly didn't teach my child to be as she is, and I daresay that Jana's parents didn't encourage her, either.

I truly wish you good luck, because you really are going to need it, I'm afraid. Just remember, though: as long as you tell the absolute truth, the police will support and believe you, against her lies.

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DocBob · 10/10/2020 11:32

Thanks for all the support. I know this post was a bit pointless but I just needed to vent. This is not even a small fraction of what she has done. I’m making a plan. I have asked her to leave already but I don’t really know when she plans to go.

I just hope this is not just part of our repeating cycle.

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JorisBonson · 10/10/2020 11:33

Good luck @DocBob and please come back here.for venting or advice. I was thinking about your post this morning and glad you have a plan.

GoldfishParade · 10/10/2020 11:39

You need to get out. You need to keep this post and start keeping a detailed diary of events. You need to separate from this woman immediately.

Google male domestic abuse support and call whatever agencies you find.