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Husbands affair

86 replies

lindyloo6 · 06/10/2020 12:19

My husband has recently admitted to an affair about 17 years ago.
I had my suspicions and I believed him (stupidly)
He's now decided he can't live with the guilt any longer so decided to come clean. It's just broken me. I love him with all my heart and know he loves me and is guilt ridden. We've got such a lovely life with fantastic adult children and get on so well.
I'm seeing a counsellor to come to terms with it.
Has anyone else been in this position?
I'm so angry. I can't believe the rage inside me.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 06/10/2020 17:57

Sorry to say but I agree there’s a child- no one struggles with the guilt for 17yrs and then thinks I
must confess without prompt

PartoftheProbl3m · 06/10/2020 17:59

How was it obvious yet you didn’t notice?

I also wonder if he’s worried about an 18 y plc child coming to find him

Mintlegs · 06/10/2020 18:06

Sorry you are going through this. I also think there is more. Again, I would watch his moves carefully and look at bank statements, phone usage etc

SpilltheTea · 06/10/2020 21:16

He told you to make himself feel better, not giving a shit how it would make you feel. And lying about it for all this time? Arsehole

MsDogLady · 06/10/2020 22:00

Lindy, you’ve had a terrible blow. Your H’s infidelity may have occurred 17 years ago, but for you this is a fresh, deep wound.

H has an agenda. He said that he was consumed by guilt and had to confess, yet he initially minimized. You don’t have the full story. He likely feared that his double life would soon be exposed so he got in there first, but he hasn’t been totally honest. He and OW still have secrets.

I would impose a sharp consequence by sending him away for a while. He needs to experience what the loss of you feels like, as well as understand that you mean business regarding his spilling the whole truth. Personally, I wouldn’t be able to move forward with him. Not only did he cheat and deceive, he allowed you to suffer when he had the opportunity to put things right back then.

MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 07/10/2020 02:12

I think if you want to find out you tell him that if there is a child that turns up there will be no discussion it's instant divorce. Just pop it into conversation. Even sound light hearted about it.

He will sweat and then not long after will start working on getting you to be ok with it ready for the big reveal. Or not. At least you'll have some control instead of wondering for months. Phrase it 'well if a child turns up suddenly you know I'll leave you don't you? That's one surprise I will never be ok with' Because he will latch onto the word suddenly and think if he tells you then you might be ok. Stupid prick.

AlwaysCheddar · 07/10/2020 04:18

Have you googled her online to see if she has a 17 year old kid?

EmmaGrundyForPM · 07/10/2020 04:21

@Bin85

Could there be a child about to become 18?
I thought that as well.
justilou1 · 07/10/2020 05:06

I love @MarriedtoDaveGrohl’s suggestion almost as much as I love her username.

YellowHighlighterPen · 07/10/2020 06:52

It's a good suggestion but it presupposes that he wants to stay married. So many of these men just want wifey to do the hard work around divorce. That also allows them to cast themselves as victim (I said sorry but she just couldn't get past it and now I've lost everything because I was honest enough to confess). She's the bad guy then for being the one to break up the home. They need to retain an image of themselves as good people.

IndieTara · 07/10/2020 07:12

Agree with PP's, there's def more to come

Middersweekly · 07/10/2020 08:26

Exactly what @LiveFromHome said. There’s a child who has possibly come looking for him or AP from 17yrs ago has contacted him.
There’s not a chance he would have just fessed up 17yrs later if there wasn’t a prompting reason for it.
Brace yourself for a further bombshell OP.

lindyloo6 · 07/10/2020 09:37

I'm going social media searching this morning! I know I can't waste anymore of my time being suspicious. Life is too short. He came clean apparently as we have had such lovely times together and are so close, BUT he knew in his head what he had done and that's ruined what I thought I had. Our DD is suspecting her DH is cheating and felt he couldn't offer advice after what he'd done.
In my heart I know how much he loves me and I him but I can't trust him.

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slidingdrawers · 07/10/2020 09:46

"Our DD is suspecting her DH is cheating and felt he couldn't offer advice after what he'd done".

Perhaps this is the catalyst for his confession. I can understand that. We don't know your own situation so can only advise/support through the wealth of our individual experiences on here. I hope you find the path that is right for you through this.

SecondStageIgnition · 07/10/2020 12:50

You are feeling like you cannot trust him because he has destabilised your reality. This is bad enough when a recent betrayal has been uncovered but in your case it is that much worse because it spans so many years. You will be re-assessing events during that time in light of the knowledge you now have. I really feel for you. It sounds like he is able to charm you. You need to view him more objectively - that will come in time. At the moment you are too closely attached to your old reality (the one in which you had a faithful and loving partner all those years) to see how disrespectful his behaviour was. I would be appalled to know that my husband had had unprotected sex with another person without my knowledge. It is the ultimate betrayal, and poses a significant risk not only to your sexual health, but your physical and mental health generally. He must experience some consequences as a result of his behaviour. The fact that it happened so long ago is irrelevant.

Silentplikebath · 07/10/2020 13:12

You should divorce him. Not because of the affair or a potential child about to make themselves known. The real damage is you knowing that he is capable of lying to you for 17 years. How can you ever get over that?

lindyloo6 · 07/10/2020 14:59

The whole thing disgusts me. The unprotected sex bit is unforgivable and vile. He's an intelligent man but was Soo selfish, greedy and pathetic. Can't find her on social media. Just don't know what to do, my world has fallen apart.

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Thewookiemustgo · 07/10/2020 15:41

You’ve been totally blindsided. It’s perfectly normal to feel this way. After all this time it must feel even worse. You are now no doubt wondering how much of your life was real and how much was a sham. Be kind to yourself and lean on others when you need to, this stuff can serious wreck your head. I know.

I found out about my husband’s affair 4 months before our 30 th wedding anniversary. It was a shock like no other. I had no idea. It was such a shock that our first conversations were with me still thinking he was the same guy I knew. Big mistake. These men are lying. Let that sink in. It’s hard, but you need to see it. They are liars.

I believed every word he said on discovery (and he did more minimising than an industrial strength pair of Spanx) because I was still viewing him as the guy who didn’t lie.
Now he had been discovered, he would tell the truth. Wouldn’t he? Nope.

This was the guy who I had been with for over 35 years who would never, ever do such a thing to me or our children. The guy who, surely, if he was sobbing and wailing that he had trashed his life and that he would finish with her as it was all a terrible, terrible mistake, must obviously mean it and would not possibly be capable of continuing to lie to a beloved wife who was utterly destroyed and on the floor at this revelation.

He did continue to lie. He did not finish with his AP. He did what I now know he apparently does when in a corner. Lie and continue to lie, to all involved, tell everyone what he thinks they need to hear to maintain control of the situation and buy thinking time. He lied to me and told whoppers to her.

Your husband is not who you thought he was. Read it again. That is a huge piece of information to process.

Where you go now is a) basic self care (eat what you can, try to rest if you can’t sleep etc) and b) if you feel strong enough, you go on a fact finding mission. You need to buy time for yourself to process this utter crap and start to think about what you want to do. Ask him to leave for a while/ permanently if you need to. My husband’s affair was in full swing when I discovered it. I knew what the score was on the Saturday night, he didn’t get home from the hotel 🤢 until late Sunday afternoon, when he dozed on the sofa (shagged out no doubt 🙄) and ate dinner with us like it was all fine. Such a good liar. I watched him in action and couldn’t believe how normal he could act despite having just taken a woman nearly 20 years my junior to a hotel for the weekend. He had no idea I knew and was being so nice to me it made me feel sick. It was like watching a horror movie. I wanted to kill him and die myself all at the same time.
I let him go to work on the Monday to give me time to dig deeper. I turned the house over looking for stuff. Made me feel ill, had never snooped on him in our whole 35 year relationship. Felt degraded that he had turned me into this woman. Search history on his iPad told me plenty. Realised he had changed the password on his spare laptop which he kept at home. Also found locked second phone. 🙄

I let our teenage kids go to bed that evening then I confronted him. But I was still clinging onto the view that if he wanted me (he swore he did) then he would end the affair immediately (he said he would) and be doing everything he said he would.

Put yourself as top priority now. Ask him to leave if you want space. Or if you are desperate for facts, ask him anything you damn well want to know, and let him know that if any of it turns out to be bullshit then the marriage is over. No more lies. My favourite quote amongst this hell was “What you allow will continue. What continues will escalate.”

If you allow lying to go unchallenged, it will continue. If it continues, it will get worse. You know what he is capable of now. Look for real remorse in him by all means, people make mistakes. But keep your eyes and ears and most importantly, your mind, open. Faced with hard evidence I was listening and looking, but my mind remained closed to who he really was.

SecondStageIgnition · 07/10/2020 15:51

@thewookiemustgo
That was a hard read, but I identify with a lot of that. What you have posted is so valuable to other women who are going through similar. Flowers

Seenitall · 07/10/2020 16:45

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lindyloo6 · 07/10/2020 19:00

Gosh that's a really hard read. There's always someone worse off than me. Feel so awful for you.
I know in my heart that he is sorry and we would like to stay together but I know I can't forgive and forget. Accept maybe?

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Dery · 07/10/2020 19:22

You say your H only recently admitted to this affair and from what you have posted you are still very much in the early stages of digesting the information and experiencing all the emotions it arouses in you.

You are trying to decide on your long-term strategy in response to his confession. You know you would like to stay together but you don't think you can forgive and forget and you talk about accepting.

I wonder whether it might be a bit easier on you if - for now - you stopped trying to decide on a long-term strategy. It's still very early days. Even if you try to stay together, it will probably be at least a year - quite possibly a few years - before you really know whether or not you can continue to share a future with your husband or whether the pain of his betrayal has done irreparable damage to your marriage.

I suspect he is trying to rush you into forgiving him and therefore you feel pressured to make a decision about it. But it's just way too soon. I think you should tell him that. You could say that - while you want to try and work it out - you cannot possibly know yet whether you can remain together long-term or whether he has done irreparable damage to your relationship with his betrayal. So he needs to stop pressing you for reassurance on that point. Because you can't give it to him. In the end, only time will tell whether you can stay together or not.

Lozzerbmc · 07/10/2020 19:41

I dont think you should decide what you want to do yet. You need time and space to process the fact that this man is not the man you thought he was. I felt my exh became a stranger and i mourned the man i thought he was. You are the priority look after yourself. For the record he is a selfish utter shit and you are worth more!

mightyimpressed · 07/10/2020 19:51

Have a look at these articles

https://www.survivinginfidelity.com/articles.

Also look at affair recovery on YouTube

I'm dealing with the fallout after my husband's affair and find these helpful

Look after yourself, it's early days and you are in shock. I started by grieving the marriage and the man I thought I knew. It's hard going, sending you strength Thanks

IndieTara · 07/10/2020 19:56

@lindyloo6 ' I know in my heart that he is sorry'

Trust me you don't actually know this. He lied to you 17 yrs ago. He put you at risk by having unprotected sex. He's lied to you for the past 17 yrs.

And he is lying to you now, plus he has decided to offload all of this onto you because he can't live with the guilt!!!

Are those the actions of somebody who loves you?

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