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Odd third date.. what would you make of this?

161 replies

abyssiniam8 · 28/09/2020 13:06

About 3 years ago when I was separated, a friend and I signed up on Tinder just for shits and giggles really, I wasn't interested in any relationships at all. It lasted about 10 days before I deleted the app. Through all the fake profiles, I did actually get talking to a real guy and we did chat but never met up. We would message each other very randomly throughout the next 2.5 years no talk of meeting up which I was okay about as it was just a bit of conversation.

Then earlier this year (just before Covid) he messaged me and asked if I wanted to meet. I said yes and we went to a music festival of all places, but it was pleasant enough. We didn't get to talk much because of the noise. Then lockdown happened and we once again went back to random messages. Then a few weeks ago he suggested dinner, which we did. We have a curfew so I was just for a few hours, and to be honest I enjoyed the evening, the time flew by, we had so much to talk about and I could have stayed much longer.

He lives about an hour away from me so last week I messaged him to say that on Saturday I was going to be near where he is for work, and would he like to meet for a drink. He says great, and then asks if we should rather do lunch. I say no problem, he says that he got a load of stuff in and he could cook as his place. Its not something that I would normally do, but I agreed.

Got to his place and he wasn't home yet, I phoned and he said he was on his way. I waited a few minutes, he arrived, went inside had a look around etc and then he said that he hopes I don't mind, but he's invited some other friends as well.

They arrived and plonked themselves outside and he and I stayed inside where he was cooking. But my god there were these awkward silences and I would ask him something just to get the conversation flowing, and he completely ignored me. A few times. Anyway we went outside after a while to where the other crowd were, and then he changed to this social self again, and was like he has been in the restaurant on date 2.

So of course they all know each other well so I really couldn't take part in the conversations they were having about previous nights out etc, so tried to converse when I could. Then one of the others announces that didn't he mention he had some plans to go to this particular spot that night, and then they all sort of looked at me as if to say, well make a move and clear off then.

So I did. He says when I'm driving out, oh sorry for changing up the dynamic.

Why do you think someone would do this? We are both 49 so it's not like we are both in our 20's that we need a backup crowd for this sort of thing.

I think the nail in the coffin was when I was reversing out he was shouting saying turn the wheel etc, I could bloody well see where I was going and didn't need him making me out as if I couldn't drive.

I am not sure which part I'm more miffed about.

He messaged me yesterday with a photo of something he bought, which I have just ignored. But I am battling to get my head around why he invited all of them, when it was me who messaged him to invite him just for a drink initially, then he changed that to lunch, and then to find out when I get there its a whole crowd.

Or maybe I am just not hardened up enough yet to be dating.

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RantyAnty · 29/09/2020 10:56

What a weirdo.

There's probably a very good reason his daughters don't talk to him.
Also very unlikely his ex is making his life a living hell. She's probably glad to be rid of the twat.

Saggyoldsofa · 29/09/2020 10:58

Children who dont talk to him, too??

Immediate strike off.

Narcissist. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it.

markzuckerbergsgreytshirt · 29/09/2020 11:06

It's definitely not you OP please don't let this experience make you think that!

He's very odd. And he has no manners. At least one of his friends tried to be polite and acknowledge the gatecrashed date. You've dodged a bullet, I'd message him to say you don't want anything to do with him anymore then block. He's immature. There are others out there so good luck!

Auto · 29/09/2020 11:25

Very odd and unpleasant. Block and move on.

abyssiniam8 · 29/09/2020 11:25

@sapnupuas

Don't reply to him. How odd.

Hopefully in you'll few years you'll be able to tell the story on one of those "worst date ever" threads.

Grin

I think I would have to add this one in there....

I mentioned this to my sil and to be honest we had a bit of a laugh about it, as I am a bit of a master of disaster. She says it could only happen to me, being brave and venturing out of my comfort zone....to then get fed, ignored and then shouted at......

Blush
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abyssiniam8 · 29/09/2020 11:28

@Saggyoldsofa

Children who dont talk to him, too??

Immediate strike off.

Narcissist. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it.

This came out recently. I knew he had daughters that live with their mother but he was never forthcoming with any information about them. Now I know why!
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billy1966 · 29/09/2020 11:34

His daughter's have the measure of him.

He's a twat.

Don't give him a second thought.

Flowers
user1471565182 · 29/09/2020 11:35

Does he like to think hes a proper shit hot semi professional chef?

abyssiniam8 · 29/09/2020 15:23

@user1471565182

Does he like to think hes a proper shit hot semi professional chef?
Doubt it. Don't they multi task when cooking? As in able to listen.... Wink
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Onthedunes · 01/10/2020 02:15

How very odd.

He's in with the in crowd then ?
How very welcoming !

Next time he texts tell him your going on a proper date minus the sheep.

ulanbatorismynextstop · 01/10/2020 02:45

Did he ignore you in the kitchen because he was focused on cooking? Did he have a crowd because he wanted to look like mr popular? It doesn't look like it's worth pursuing so drop it.

londonscalling · 01/10/2020 04:46

Have you heard any more from him?

I've no explanation for his behaviour but if it doesn't feel right then it's not right.

As for the reversing situation ... my male chauvinist father in law always stands next to my car and guides me in and out of parking spots outside his house. It annoys the hell out of me. I can easily do it myself and he doesn't do it to my husband!!!! He got his comeuppance though as I've never had an accident yet he reversed into a post!!!!

SadSack39 · 01/10/2020 05:18

He obviously asked his friends for help in getting rid of you.. hes a first class knob

RaisinGhost · 01/10/2020 05:30

Oh dear how awkward. I don't think he's hiding anything, just sounded like an awkward weird 21 year old... Oh except he's 49!

Girlzroolz · 01/10/2020 05:55

I’d text him excitedly about a terrific date you went on last night, out for a drink. Ask his advice about what to wear for Date #2. Ask him for the recipe of something he cooked at his place, since Date #2 is at yours.

Since you’re just mates and all.

abyssiniam8 · 01/10/2020 08:46

@londonscalling

Have you heard any more from him?

I've no explanation for his behaviour but if it doesn't feel right then it's not right.

As for the reversing situation ... my male chauvinist father in law always stands next to my car and guides me in and out of parking spots outside his house. It annoys the hell out of me. I can easily do it myself and he doesn't do it to my husband!!!! He got his comeuppance though as I've never had an accident yet he reversed into a post!!!!

Yes he has sent some form of communication every day since. Most I didn't reply to as they are just links to songs. He does have good taste in music I will give him that.

Yesterday though, he send a proper typed out message saying that his mortgage was approved as he is buying a house. So I just sent an emoji, that celebration one.... to which he replied 'thanks' haha

Not a word has been mentioned about last weekend.

London, he has a bloody great bash in the back of his car too! Grin. He says his 'friend' drove into the back of him. Hmm

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abyssiniam8 · 01/10/2020 08:47

@Girlzroolz

I’d text him excitedly about a terrific date you went on last night, out for a drink. Ask his advice about what to wear for Date #2. Ask him for the recipe of something he cooked at his place, since Date #2 is at yours.

Since you’re just mates and all.

Grin
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MadamBatty · 01/10/2020 09:27

Another nightmare ex...of a woman who put up with him for years & is sick of his shit?

user1471538283 · 01/10/2020 17:04

I couldn't be arsed with this. You don't put someone in this position. This is when he is showing his best behaviour. And it ain't good

Abyssiniam8 · 01/10/2020 17:34

MadamBatty. Oh for sure. I was only three dates in and fed up.

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Bygone · 01/10/2020 21:17

He says his 'friend' drove into the back of him

Grin

He's a knobhead.

You have really made me laugh, I have tears in my eyes, reading some of your replies, I mean that in a nice way, you have a grest sense of humour OP Flowers

you need one for that joker

Bygone · 01/10/2020 21:25

So I just sent an emoji, that celebration one.... to which he replied 'thanks' haha

Actually, this is a great idea, as he VERY rudely ignored you.

Dont ever type a reply to his texts, just send emojis, every single time.

If he questions it, break the rules once & only once by typing - oh sorry for changing up the dynamic

Grin
OnceUponAMidnightBeery · 01/10/2020 23:06

@Onthedunes

How very odd.

He's in with the in crowd then ?
How very welcoming !

Next time he texts tell him your going on a proper date minus the sheep.

Grin If you’re a welsh lass like me, tell him you’re going on a proper date WITH a sheep... much better listening skills (and conversational skills by the sounds of it), equal lack of interest... might not be able to cook though...
abyssiniam8 · 05/10/2020 11:31

@Bygone

He says his 'friend' drove into the back of him Grin

He's a knobhead.

You have really made me laugh, I have tears in my eyes, reading some of your replies, I mean that in a nice way, you have a grest sense of humour OP Flowers

you need one for that joker

Why, thank you Bygone. Grin Quite wasted on him however...

So I have a small update. On Friday afternoon he sent a random picture of a place that he obviously was at, which I did not reply to as I did not recognise the shop name. A little while later (perhaps after realising I had blue ticked him) he said that he was going to get a tattoo done. I sent back the strong arm emoji. (never sent this many emoji's in place of a conversation ever....)

Some time later he sends me the picture of the tattoo. So trying not to out myself here it is of an instrument that he plays. It would seem he had a 'friend' draw up the picture as the drawing was on his status update, but when I zoomed into the actual tattoo that he had sent.......................... there is a great bloody spelling mistake on it! Its not obvious until you really zoom in as it is small, but its pretty bad as typos go.

Now I am not the spelling police type, but its just a blatant eff up right there. So I have not replied at all. Because there is not even one emoji that I could send in response to that. And I could not say it was nice, because, well it would be quite nice..... if I didn't notice this small yet large blunder.

I do not know if he has realised as I have not heard from him since.

(Surely one of his 'friends' would have told him though. They seem pretty straight about things from my experience with them)

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justilou1 · 05/10/2020 11:43

His attractiveness had just dropped from bottom 20% to lower 5% with the spelling mistake in the tattoo. I’d have to point it out. Couldn’t help myself. (Great way to ensure you’ll never hear from him again.)