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Odd third date.. what would you make of this?

161 replies

abyssiniam8 · 28/09/2020 13:06

About 3 years ago when I was separated, a friend and I signed up on Tinder just for shits and giggles really, I wasn't interested in any relationships at all. It lasted about 10 days before I deleted the app. Through all the fake profiles, I did actually get talking to a real guy and we did chat but never met up. We would message each other very randomly throughout the next 2.5 years no talk of meeting up which I was okay about as it was just a bit of conversation.

Then earlier this year (just before Covid) he messaged me and asked if I wanted to meet. I said yes and we went to a music festival of all places, but it was pleasant enough. We didn't get to talk much because of the noise. Then lockdown happened and we once again went back to random messages. Then a few weeks ago he suggested dinner, which we did. We have a curfew so I was just for a few hours, and to be honest I enjoyed the evening, the time flew by, we had so much to talk about and I could have stayed much longer.

He lives about an hour away from me so last week I messaged him to say that on Saturday I was going to be near where he is for work, and would he like to meet for a drink. He says great, and then asks if we should rather do lunch. I say no problem, he says that he got a load of stuff in and he could cook as his place. Its not something that I would normally do, but I agreed.

Got to his place and he wasn't home yet, I phoned and he said he was on his way. I waited a few minutes, he arrived, went inside had a look around etc and then he said that he hopes I don't mind, but he's invited some other friends as well.

They arrived and plonked themselves outside and he and I stayed inside where he was cooking. But my god there were these awkward silences and I would ask him something just to get the conversation flowing, and he completely ignored me. A few times. Anyway we went outside after a while to where the other crowd were, and then he changed to this social self again, and was like he has been in the restaurant on date 2.

So of course they all know each other well so I really couldn't take part in the conversations they were having about previous nights out etc, so tried to converse when I could. Then one of the others announces that didn't he mention he had some plans to go to this particular spot that night, and then they all sort of looked at me as if to say, well make a move and clear off then.

So I did. He says when I'm driving out, oh sorry for changing up the dynamic.

Why do you think someone would do this? We are both 49 so it's not like we are both in our 20's that we need a backup crowd for this sort of thing.

I think the nail in the coffin was when I was reversing out he was shouting saying turn the wheel etc, I could bloody well see where I was going and didn't need him making me out as if I couldn't drive.

I am not sure which part I'm more miffed about.

He messaged me yesterday with a photo of something he bought, which I have just ignored. But I am battling to get my head around why he invited all of them, when it was me who messaged him to invite him just for a drink initially, then he changed that to lunch, and then to find out when I get there its a whole crowd.

Or maybe I am just not hardened up enough yet to be dating.

OP posts:
abyssiniam8 · 28/09/2020 14:32

@VenusInfers

Oh dear.

Mind you, not everyone can cope with chatting when they are in the middle of cooking a meal. It can be difficult to engage in light banter when you are trying hard not to burn 3 or 4 separate things. I generally send people out so I can concentrate and have a glass of wine.

Still, even if that is so he should have made more of an effort during the meal to help you feel at ease in unfamiliar company....

This is true, but then if you are not overly comfortable cooking for someone you don't know that well, surely the drink would have been a better option.
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abyssiniam8 · 28/09/2020 14:34

@Deadringer

It sounds like he panicked that you might think it was a date, or that you might try and jump his bones, Hmm so he invited his mates along to make it clear you are just friends. Sounds like more trouble than he's worth.
He showed me around his house and I would been embarrassed to show someone my bedroom is that state.

Yeah, I am of the thinking that he is just in the friend zone but maybe leaving some options open.

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abyssiniam8 · 28/09/2020 14:36

@EdwardCullensBiteOnTheSide

He sounds like an absolute knob! But can I ask what are shits and giggles is that a typo?
It is a real saying Grin

So doing something just for the hell of it.

I am not in the UK so maybe it is just used here.

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ravenmum · 28/09/2020 15:01

It's used in the UK too :)
www.lexico.com/definition/for_shits_and_giggles

DiscombobulatedAf · 28/09/2020 15:10

I would have blocked him the second my car was around the corner. He sounds awful. Continue ignoring his messages

toobusytothink · 28/09/2020 15:19

Yes thinking friend zoned too hence making it lunch rather than dinner and friends invited so you didn’t think it was a date ...

fatherfintanstack · 28/09/2020 15:46

How odd! I think I would continue to ignor. His friends sound quite cliquey and rude too. It's quite 6th form-y to sit round talking about nights out and not ensuring everyone is welcomed into the conversation.

I'm thinking he had either buggered up his dates and double booked (in which case why not just explain that).

Or I think it's possible a PP may be onto something in suggesting there may be some ex drama and he wants her to hear through the grapevine about the new lady he has had round for a meal with his friends.

BlueThistles · 28/09/2020 16:07

OP this idiot is not for you my lovely, he doesn't know how to treat people. Onwards and upwards Flowers

billy1966 · 28/09/2020 16:59

He sounds awful and rude.

The driving adviceHmmwould be enough.

Ignore him.

Enjoy your steak👍

DiscoInFurlough · 28/09/2020 17:15

The clues were there right at the beginning but you overlooked them.
Any man that keeps you talking for more than 2 weeks without arranging a date isnt really interested unless 'its' on a plate / he's keeping his options open and you are at least choice #2 or below.

For the future, dont bother to meet up with pen pals... there is always something off there.

Good luck with dating, on to the next, you deserve better but heed the early warning signs next time.

Zaphodsotherhead · 28/09/2020 17:25

I wonder if...he'd invited you round for a meal and then one of his friends pointed out that date 3 is usually when people sleep together for the first time (so I'm told)?

He panicked. Maybe he has ED or something, and didn't want to go there. So he invited all his friends around to make sure that you wouldn't expect a 'typical' Date 3, and perhaps told them some story about why you were there?

You dodged a bullet in any case.

JamieLeeCurtains · 28/09/2020 17:43

I'd ask him what he was playing at. You've been chatting for a loooong time, and have nothing to lose.

Bettysnow · 28/09/2020 17:46

If I was in your shoes I wouldn't be letting him away with it! I would call him out on his rotten behaviour! Tell him exactly why your angry! I mean you basically got kicked out when his friends said he had plans then looked at you! That coupled with ignoring you was really shitty treatment from a.grown man!
Give him both barrels and you can be sure he'll think twice before he pulls a stunt like that again on some poor unsuspecting female!

Bettysnow · 28/09/2020 18:08

Also there seemed to have been some sort of weird attempt to humiliate you throughout this so called date?
Definitely this guy is an absolute creepshow!

Rybvita · 28/09/2020 23:49

What a strange man. However I wonder if he could be autistic which could explain things? Confused You did nothing wrong OP, though the random texts for years without him inviting you on an actual date were red flags. I would block and delete. Rude and disrespectful behaviour on his part and certainly not worth your time.

JustThinkingAboutThis · 28/09/2020 23:58

@JamieLeeCurtains

I'd ask him what he was playing at. You've been chatting for a loooong time, and have nothing to lose.
I agree, I would suggest you just ask him to be honest about what was going on and also explain you felt very uncomfortable. If nothing comes of it move on and fingers crossed you meet a nice guy soon. You deserve to be treated well.
abyssiniam8 · 29/09/2020 06:57

Thanks all.

As I mentioned earlier I am very much out of the dating game and this was my first attempt to get out there. I am pleased that you all agree that this is just plain odd.

I wish I had actually driven over his bloody plant now. Wink

I don't know if I will ask him to explain himself. I really just couldn't be bothered to get into a conversation with him.

i think another red flag that I missed is that on my tinder profile I didn't even have a photo or bio up of myself, it was just a random flower or something, and a fake name that isn't even a name. And he matched with me so obviously he just swiped on any profile.

As a pp said, onwards and upwards.

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NotThatStrange · 29/09/2020 09:21

OP, you have been chatting with this man on and off for almost 3 years. Was it really a date? Have you got the wrong end of the stick?

I don't think this man is single. He invited you with his friends around just incase you were spotted in his area/work having a drink with him.

Block him.

Saggyoldsofa · 29/09/2020 09:29

Weird. Manipulative. Either likes making feel a bit off-kilter to keep them to heel, has no awareness, or is using you for a nefarious purpose. None of those are good.

That comment about "changing up the dynamic"... what a total tool! Sounds a bit narcissist-y to me. Was he seemingly very confident?

abyssiniam8 · 29/09/2020 10:17

@NotThatStrange

OP, you have been chatting with this man on and off for almost 3 years. Was it really a date? Have you got the wrong end of the stick?

I don't think this man is single. He invited you with his friends around just incase you were spotted in his area/work having a drink with him.

Block him.

He is going through a messy divorce, and by the sounds of things has had a fair few "girlfriends" whilst separated.

These "girlfriends" are all friends now. By goodness I have been blind haven't I.....

He did refer to the 2nd meet up as a date.

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abyssiniam8 · 29/09/2020 10:28

@Saggyoldsofa

Weird. Manipulative. Either likes making feel a bit off-kilter to keep them to heel, has no awareness, or is using you for a nefarious purpose. None of those are good.

That comment about "changing up the dynamic"... what a total tool! Sounds a bit narcissist-y to me. Was he seemingly very confident?

Oh yes, very confident. More so in front of the others............... I really think that he is just so self centered.

Comes across as life is fantastic. Everything is always brilliant.

(Not sure how life can be all that brilliant when your stbx is apparently making your life hell and your daughters don't talk to you)

I know..... when I heard the changing up the dynamic comment (which was just before shouting at me for the reversing thing) I just thought to myself Hmm

Dodged a bullet here I know.

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Sunshineandflipflops · 29/09/2020 10:34

Very weird behaviour!

I think I would have to say something too before chalking it up to experience.

I think some people just get more and more strange with age and having too much time on their own!

sapnupuas · 29/09/2020 10:36

Don't reply to him. How odd.

Hopefully in you'll few years you'll be able to tell the story on one of those "worst date ever" threads.

JamieLeeCurtains · 29/09/2020 10:41

His daughters don't talk to him?? And all the rest?

He's an arsehole.

Block him. Forget what I said about getting an explanation. You're right, OP, all you'll get is gobshite.

One1 · 29/09/2020 10:54

Op, he may not have seen as a date at all. If he invited you out the first two times he may have been bored or curious towards you! Unless you did have some physical contact at all, ie kiss? Regarding the 3rd date plans for the day may have been rolling in the background and he chose to integrate you rather than ditch either you or his friends altogether. If you hoped for more I don’t think there is more, and carry on texting only if you’re ok with it. If you want relationship material, I suggest you look elsewhere. Flowers