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This is the end. Thoughts and help please?

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PineappleFuzz · 19/09/2020 21:24

Normal gumf - nc so not linked to previous posts..

I will apologise now for the long post.. i don't want to drip feed, and it is a bit of a muddle in my head at the moment, but I'll do my best.

From the start...

Met 'D'P at work - he was in a long term relationship but it was rocky etc. They have 2 kids together.
Nothing happened between us until well after they split.
All good first year, covered a lot of long term conversations, where we were aiming with life etc, likes, dislikes, wants.

There was an awful lot of stress thanks to cnts at work, but we overcame it and stayed strong. (perhaps as we had stayed together through all the shit, it made me/us fight through what should have been red flags later on...)

I ended up doing a uni course through work (1year, diploma, no bsc whatnot), and he wasn't overly happy with this as it is a higher qualification than he has, to do the same job, and distinctly remember him saying that he didn't know if he could wake up in the morning next to me, knowing what i was getting that he wasn't. (Work said that as he is already registered -hcpc- that he is qualified and doesn't require a top up.) Truth be told I'd rather have done the course he did, as it was all relevant to the job rather than dipping into irrelevant things, and required a higher pass mark than the uni does.

I think out of 6 proper holidays/weekends abroad (excluding a fee just overnight stays), we’ve had maybe..2 without argument or disagreements? The main ones that come to mind are when we went to Amsterdam he got the biggest strop in the world because he received constructive feedback on a draft essay for his mentoring course... and the most recent was his birthday trip where he got irritated by me (yes probably was a bit out of it thanks to a few drinks and was probably annoying).. he then refused to hold my hand or anything even close because (and i quote) “it’s like with a dog - you don’t reward bad behaviour by doing something it wants”

I think for me that was the major turn. This year hasn’t been the same since (we were away in January).

End of last year, he fucked me over on a project he was doing - was meant to be a joint venture, something for me to add to my portfolio and something to get him some money-nothing seedy). Rather than discussing it with me and that he would rather it be done sooner, or even discuss it with me..I found out when we were round his parents..and he proudly told them that he had put down the deposit on it all with a completion date for 3 months ahead.
Admittedly he did turn around after a chat at home and understand why i was annoyed..

Next up.. sex.
First 6 months it was daily, maybe even more than once. He frequently made a point (unprompted) of saying how much he loved it everyday, so different to every other relationship, and he never wanted it less. Of course, over time it did get less, but still mostly daily.. maximum every other day.
It was mentioned that it was a bit routine, so tried mixing it up a bit, as you do.
He had a period on anti depressants, and had issues finishing and with dulled sensation - we found work arounds etc which made it as close to normal for him as possible.
Then it gradually dwindled.. and unfortunately due to a lot of past issues I hate confrontation - I’ll hold my hands up and saying PA signs of displeasure were not the way forwards..

But at the same time - i wanted to be wanted. I wanted him to instigate it, him to start things off, because he wanted to.
He always came back with saying that if i want sex, he will give it to me, and didn’t get the difference.

Also, flipside - whilst with his ex, where they had minimal sex, he used to sext/message photos with multiple girls, but nothing physical.

So onto the issue today.
Sex has been almost non existent recently, which while within normal parameters for most people is certainly not for us.
So, suspicious after chatting to a couple of friends..... i had a good opportunity to check his phone this morning while he was showering.

Nothing really to note......until I looked at deleted photos. There were some with 16days left before permanent deletion, so on an iPhone i guess they were deleted 13 days ago?
They were dick pics, in work trousers, boxers and nude.
I checked all our message threads.. going back months... and they weren’t sent to me.

Up to old tricks i guess. I haven't broken down about it yet - nearly have twice. Seeing a work friend tomorrow and will hash it out then...

I have been feeling probably since the end of last year...that it wasn’t a forever thing anymore (despite discussing marriage, kids, all sorts) but i have sought counselling and meds to check it wasn’t me (history of self sabotaging in relationships).

I had given the relationship until December to have improved, or moved forwards.. guess we won’t be making it that far.

In terms of us, we bought a house together last year, not married, no kids (other than a good relationship with his with his ex). So not as complicated as it could have been (he’s had an engagement ring for over 2 years now).

Thoughts please? Help? Any advice on how to proceed?

OP posts:
PineappleFuzz · 19/09/2020 21:29

Oh. And for reference, he is 40 and I'm 28.
No significant issues with age gap.

OP posts:
alwaysfiltered · 19/09/2020 21:32

I think you have to get out, if he is already doing this he has no respect for you I will continue for years to come. I would look at one of you staying in the house and covering the costs and the other leaving and then a split being agreed for next year. Do you have anywhere you can go?

GilbertMarkham · 19/09/2020 21:37

he wasn't overly happy with this as it is a higher qualification than he has, to do the same job, and distinctly remember him saying that he didn't know if he could wake up in the morning next to me, knowing what i was getting that he wasn't.

Aside from.the fact that he's apparently sendung dick pics to other women, I'm wondering how you can have a good relationship with someone like this. He wants his partner to always be beneath him in education/achievement etc. It's horrible. Are you supposed to stunt your natural development to be with him. A good partner would t be like that.

PineappleFuzz · 19/09/2020 21:49

@GilbertMarkham i think it was more about equality/fairness..and how is he meant to look after staff that are higher qualified (technically) with the same professional registration, but he would be denied job opps (in theory) while they wouldn't...?
He also stated he didn't feel he could go to my graduation with me, although that ended as a moot point as I didn't go anyway.

@alwaysfiltered nowhere to go to really, other than family, but that would be a total disruption due to one of them having dementia and routine being everything to them.
I think I know I need to leave and get out.. just need that kick from someone...

I am quite happy in terms of house costs to continue paying my half of the mortgage until it sells etc - he needs the rooms more than I do (kids vs just me)

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SylvanianFrenemies · 19/09/2020 22:03

You can do better.

Not going to your graduation? What a petulant baby.
Sexual incompatability.
Sending other women dick pics.

Nope, nope, nope.

running3 · 19/09/2020 22:08

The dog comment would do it for me. What a vile thing to say to the person you love.
You sound like you’ve already made your mind up, and with good reason. Have confidence in yourself - you know what’s right for you and what’s not x

PineappleFuzz · 19/09/2020 22:15

@running3 that is the comment that really hit home to me. As annoying as someone is, that's a shit thing to say to anyone, let alone someone you keep saying you want to marry. (Whole other story with that - i doubt his sincerity with it)

@SylvanianFrenemies definitely. It's gone from good to shit. And I think I was lulled into it by a longer "honeymoon period" before it went to pot.

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Sunflower1970 · 19/09/2020 22:29

Pack your bags and leave ASAP

Anordinarymum · 19/09/2020 22:39

I think he feels in competition with you and not in sync. It won't work long term. Forget the rest it just won't.

yetmorecrap · 19/09/2020 22:40

An insecure sleazebag!! Sorry OP , it’s horrible when someone reveals their true self

VivaMiltonKeynes · 19/09/2020 22:43

You are 28 . Why would you put up with a divorced guy , kids, cheater ?

Lalaloveyou2020 · 19/09/2020 22:45

Textbook narcissisist. Get out while you can. Don't look back.

chuffedasbuttons · 19/09/2020 22:46

Do it

I have ended a relationship similar in terms of the house. He got a complete bee in his bonnet about financial equity... I liked him even less.

It can be a bit messy while you sort the money stuff out but keep an even keel and ignore any histrionics by him.
Good luck

newnameforthis123 · 19/09/2020 22:51

That dog comment was fucking horrible. It sounds like the relationship has run its course OP. It's not meant to be this hard. You're so young, don't give any more years of your life to a relationship that is getting worse and not working.

happythankyoumoreplease · 19/09/2020 22:55

Red flags flying high OP. Can't believe you stayed with him after he tried to bring you down over gaining a higher qualification than him. Not to mention all the rest. He has no respect for you.

PineappleFuzz · 19/09/2020 23:02

I can't reply to you all.... but you are all validating exactly how I feel.

He has his good points as well, even though I haven't mentioned them here (no one ever does do they?)

But despite having good points, the bad are now outweighing the good, and definitely not worth putting up with/inexcusable anymore.

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smartiecake · 19/09/2020 23:03

At 28 you are so young to be settling for this shit and putting up with it.
The dog comment shows you his true colours, and the dick pics - who has he sent them to or is intending to send them to?
Split and sell the house and any equity and walk away.

tunnocksreturns2019 · 19/09/2020 23:05

@VivaMiltonKeynes

You are 28 . Why would you put up with a divorced guy , kids, cheater ?
This. You can do so, so much better
HollowTalk · 19/09/2020 23:05

He sounds absolutely horrible. You are 28 and believe me, this is the best time of your life. Why the hell you're spending it with a 40-year-old wanker I don't know.

user92837465 · 19/09/2020 23:08

And you are very self aware, have confidence in yourself - listen to yourself as you are correct.

PineappleFuzz · 19/09/2020 23:14

I have no idea who he sent them to - they were the sort of pictures you would take and not send....
They're precisely the ones we have exchanged previously when winding each other up on shift at work pre-ravishing at home (far earlier days). I know he deletes messages/has deleted messages, so no idea who he sent them to, or when, just the they were deleted just under 2 weeks ago..

@user92837465.. thats part of my problem though - full of self doubt and no confidence. Until being with him I didn't believe I'd ever be in a relationship/longterm/that i was worth it...

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Opentooffers · 19/09/2020 23:21

You can do so much better, I'm sure you will, and work-wise, without him dragging you down.
It takes 2 to have a varied sex life, how dare he put the onus on you to change it up, it's a joint thing.
At your age though, why saddle yourself with the baggage he's got. ' I must have sex daily' - should of put a caveat on that - 'but if I don't, even if it's down to me, I can sexy as many women as I like'.
I recon he'd like to think that the sexting he did was because he and his ex weren't being intimate, but really, he's just a bloke that likes sexting, because he's a sleaze.
Move on, you've got a better life to lead than being with this dickwad

Dontletitbeyou · 20/09/2020 05:07

Any guy that sends a dick pic is a sleazy fucker IMO anyway . You’re 28, with the world ahead of you . He sounds like a self centred twat, I picked up on the exact same thing as another pp ‘ he didn’t know if he could wake up in the morning next to you ...’ whatever his reasons that was a childish petulant thing to say , even if he said it was a joke .
And the dog comment . Ugh just ugh , I’d have left his sorry ass in Amsterdam , no lie .

PamDemic · 20/09/2020 06:21

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Frownette · 20/09/2020 06:26

Just walk.

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