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I am such a doormat

57 replies

Lenya · 05/10/2007 13:30

I'm a fairly regular poster but namechanging for a number of reasons.

DP isn't a bad person, but the more time that goes on I can honestly say I'm getting more and more down.

This is probably true of a lots of DP/H's so I feel pathetic for even moaning about it really.

All this revolves around the fact he is a lazy sod, and makes me feel like Im being walked all over. He doesn't get out of bed until at least 2 on days where he doesn't work, and as soon as I get in from work, I have to take up looking after DD. I cook everything every night for him, wash up, tidy, clean. Last night I was cleaning the bathroom at 1am.

The more I write, the more I realise how unbelievably trivial this all is.

Im so sick of being the one person who holds it all together all the time. Its not a 'partnership' in any sense of the word. Even when I'm ill I have to look after DD, even if he's there.

There's no respite for me ever. Can't see when I'll actually ever have the time to have a bath in peace (or before 2am), go out for the afetrnoon (minus DD) etc

Sorry, long and rambling...not quite with it today

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colditz · 05/10/2007 16:46

It's not the way he is though Lenya, it's the way he's allowed to be. If someone would come and do all the drusge work in my house without too much fuss, I'd let them.

You're daughter's not going to be a doormat because your husband is lazy though, I'm afraid she is watching and learning her reactions to men by the way you react to him. If you can pull on the last reserves of your strength, you can teach her so much about having high self esteem and the self respect not to drudge for people just because they want you to. You will be the one to teach her that valuable lesson.

How old is she? Go and ask her, if she could answer you, what ladies do and what men do. See what she says.

Meeely2 · 05/10/2007 16:48

lenya - i have some things to add here, i have just been reading through, but i need to go fetch my kids from nursery and then get them to bed, so will log back on about 8 ish if you are around.....?

Lenya · 05/10/2007 16:54

Hi Meely

I won't be around after 5ish really (sneaky MNting at work sssshhh)

But I'll log on late tonight (after the washing claening etc etc lol)

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Elizabetth · 05/10/2007 16:56

I think you need to get your mother's unsympathetic voice out of your head (easier said than done I know) and start paying attention to how bad this is making you feel. The more you put yourself down about complaining about this, as your mother would do, the harder it will be for you to make any changes in your life.

Maybe your Mum is really good at shouldering unfair burdens, maybe she's just insensitive, maybe she didn't have any choices in her life, but you do. You don't have to put up with this anymore. Society no longer agrees that women are men's drudges and servants and although some people are taking a while to catch up things are changing. You can change things too. You don't need to be miserable and tired and you don't deserve to be miserable and tired.

Meeely2 · 05/10/2007 20:36

ok i'm back, armed with wine and my dinner! Boys are not asleep, but can't have everything.....currently singing twinkle twinkle little star!

so, picking through the posts i have concluded u are EXTREMELY depressed, put your heart and soul into being a wife and mother, but absolutely nothing goes into being YOU? have i caught the essence so far?

May I ask how old DD is? i.e. how long have you had to be wife, mother, chief pot and bottle washer? Has your DH always been bone idle but good natured with it, i.e. he has personality traits that make up for him being lazy? Did he get worse when DD arrived?

I could have written your post about 2 years ago....my twins are nearly 3 now and I would say we got a healthy balance about a year and half maybe two years ago. i went back to work full time when dt's were 5 months old, DH has always cooked, even pre-babies, so it just carried on after they were born (thank god else we would all have starved). He sounds good so far dont he! He also did their bottles every night, always helped with bathtime, but then i guess he HAD to, he was thrown into it whereas dads of singletons may have got away with doing less as mummy could cope better. Anyhow I digress.

As practical as he sounds and as hands on as he was, he wasn't supporting ME....I didn;t go out, WE didn't go out as a family, but he did very regularly. At the weekends when it was full on family time, he was obvious in his absence "oh i have to help so and so with such and such" which always followed with "they taking me for a pint to say thanks".....He could manage evenings and mornings in the week, but full on 8 hours of babies each day at the weekend, wasn't interested.

In conclusion after many rows "but i cook" "I do the garden" none of which i could argue with, I walked out. We weren't being a family, we weren't enjoying life, we were functioning, existing day to day....apparently i could go out if i wanted, it wasn't his fault my friends ignored me....but whenever i wanted to, he already had plans. thing is i shouldn't have had to ask, i had as much right to go out as he did..

I'm falling off the point a bit here - what i'm saying is, i walked out for 4 days and took the boys - he got such a shock. He realised i wasn't a doormat there to look after HIS sons when he fancied some time off, i had a life, i could cope, he couldn't put me down with insults about my parenting skills to make me think i needed him. When I came home he was a new man. We have alternate nights out (if we have no plans we stay in TOGETHER), he gets up with boys on a saturday morning, I get up on a sunday. We go out as a family on the Sunday (he plays rugby on the Saturday and i go an watch the home games with the boys) and generally we are part of each other lives again.

I walked out for a lot less than you are currently going through and it improved my life 100%. If you don't give him a shake or a wake up call he ain't never gonna change believe me, I tried all the different ways of talking to my DH and nothing worked because deep down he truly believed this was how life was supposed to be and that i was moaning about nothing. I had to SHOW him what he was doing to us, then he sat up and took notice. He occasionally slips into 'just going out with the lads....' and i always come back with, 'no problem babe, i'm off shopping tomorrow, so you got the boys in the day......'

He even sent me to Italy for a weekend to stay with his sister and he had the boys all to himself, it was ACE!

Your DH has worn you down so that you no longer bother to moan because you can't be arsed, he has you right where he wants you, my dh thought he could do the same - threaten an argument if i moaned about something and i used to avoid arguments like the plague. Now i treat him like a toddler and just talk over him in a calm voice stating what i want to say then walk away and let him digest.

God i have really gone on there and looking back not sure any of it is relevent, but i wanted you to see that a relationship that was once similar to yours can change, but it will only do so if YOU take the lead.

You know what kept me going when i walked out and he was throwing every insult at me under the sun......

If he changes because of this and starts pulling his parental weight - I win

If he doesn't change I'm best shot of him and will start again on my own - I win

WIN WIN!

Meeely2 · 05/10/2007 20:37

hey and boys are now asleep! off to paint my bathroom door.

mistressmiggins · 05/10/2007 20:46

oh Lenya
I've been in your position & it was just a living hell.

my ex H used to stay in bed Sat & Sun til gone 9am (kids were up at 6am & we used to creep round the house)
He would then walk to paper shop, come back & have a leisurely breakfast.
he was ready to go out around 11.30am which was ridiculous as having a 3.5 & 17 mth yr old, they were nearly ready for breakfast & certainly didnt want to go shopping

eventually he left (he was having an affair so that probably explains why he didnt care that he was being selfish)

we're much happier now & to top it all, I have a new partner who gets up when WE do - he wouldnt dream of staying in bed while I see to the kids

please try to talk to him about it
have you read "men are from mars" etc? I know its a cliche BUT I did find it helped to understand men in a way.

you are NOT being unreasonable.
I realised once exH had left that not all men are like him and I deserved better....which Ive got

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