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I’m absolutely petrified of online dating now / feel quite shaken by this experience

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Chasingstars9 · 11/08/2020 11:38

I’m 25 and have been on online dating for a couple of years on and off. Haven’t had a “serious” relationship since I was around 20 but have enjoyed being single, focusing on my job, family and friends. I’ve been on a couple of dates over the last year but they just haven’t worked out for one reason or another, normally because we just haven’t clicked.

Anyway, I started speaking with a guy (24) a month ago. We seemed to really hit it off. He made me laugh, we were able to talk for hours about random silly stuff. He seemed genuinely nice and interested in looking for a relationship. We had phone conversations everyday and did facetime. He was honest with me and explained that he’d been to jail for 6 months when he was 19 after getting into a fight with his uncle. Due to getting into a bit of debt when he was in jail he was also not in the best financial situation hence why he only rented a room and didn’t have a car or much money. Despite all of this I wanted to give him a chance as we all make mistakes and he told me that he wasn’t that person anymore, that he was trying to make a better life for himself. He had a full time job (earning more than me so he was definitely doing well given the circumstances).

We met up two weeks ago for the first time and it went really well. We went for a meal and for a little walk and he showed me around his town. He explained that he hadn’t seen his parents for nearly four years as they had practically disowned him after being in jail. He also told me that a lot of his close friends were big drinkers and that he’d got into the habit of going to the pub every night after work/every weekend but that he wanted to change and he thought by me coming into his life that would help as I have “my head screwed on”. I’m not a big drinker and rarely go to the pub, it’s just not my thing. Things were going really well between us but the 2nd date took a bit of a left turn. I turned up to his house and he was asking me to go to the pub with him to meet all of his friends. I explained that I didn’t feel comfortable meeting his friends so early on and just wanted to spend time with him and get to know him. He wouldn’t take no for an answer and kept putting me on FaceTime with them. I eventually decided to go home and later that evening he sent me multiple messages apologising for his actions and said that he only wanted me to meet his friends because he felt so comfortable around me and felt that he was “falling for me”.

He explained that he struggled to understand boundaries because he’d never really dated before (he’s been single since he went to jail 5 years ago). He said he wanted to see me again and promised we could just take things at my pace. I decided to give him another chance and drive down there again (an hours drive there and back). That morning he was sending me multiple messages telling me how he couldn’t wait to see me, that he missed me and couldn’t wait to spend the day with me, “just the two of us”. When I got there it was a completely different story, he hadn’t got dressed and his room was a mess with rubbish all over the floor. He was very cold towards me, wouldn’t even give me a cuddle or a kiss. I asked him what was wrong and he said he was just depressed and that his life was shit. I tried to reassure him that he was doing well, that he had a lot to be grateful for and that he had a lot more than some people. At least he had a job and a roof over his head. He kept telling me to “run a mile” and that I shouldn’t be with him because “I’ve got my shit together with my own car, flat and job” and that he doesn’t have any of that. I suggested that we could go for a walk, try and get some fresh air which might lift his mood, maybe go and get something to eat and his response was “I’m not made of money”. This comment was hurtful as I certainly wasn’t dating him for his money, I work full time myself and have my own money. Slightly frustrating though as I know he’d been in the pub the night before and bought a Chinese (I think he spends a lot of money on alcohol).

We argued a bit as I asked him to explain how he was feeling and he just said he couldn’t. He said that no one (not even me) could make him happy, that he didn’t care about me and that all he wanted was “friendship”. At this point I decided to leave and go home as I felt he was just in a bad mood and I was basically his punching bag. I’d only been there for an hour and already felt drained and deflated. I’m generally a very happy person and I just felt my life had turned very negative. We didn’t speak for the rest of the day but he messaged me that night saying he felt awful for “ruining things between us” and that he would come down to see me on the train once he got paid. I said that I felt things weren’t working out between us and that it should of been the “honeymoon phase”. We’d only met twice and we were already arguing etc. I told him that I was quite upset that day (crying on my way home) after the way he treated me, especially since I’d driven all that way to spend time with him and he apologised. I just said that the situation wasn’t normal (and I guess he took my message the wrong way) as he flew off the handle and started sending me messages asking me “if he’s normal” or “should he just kill him self tonight”. I told him to stop being silly and that’s not what I meant at all but that I thought it would just be best to wish each other well but part ways as obviously it wasn’t working (and imo because it was evident he was not ready for a relationship as he had some deep rooted issues to work on).

He then asked me if I thought he needed professional help and I said that if he was feeling suicidal or had intrusive thoughts then it might be best that he seeks medical help or tries to speak to someone. Again I think he took what I was saying the wrong (perhaps thought I was insulting him or taking the piss) and he started sending more messages saying I was pathetic for crying (apparently this means that I fall for people too quickly - 100% not the case and this is coming from a man who wanted to introduce me to his friends on the 2nd date). He also said “he didn’t need help just because he didn’t want to be with me” 🤨. Apparently “he didn’t give a fuck what my opinion was anyway because he had his mates”. At this point I just wanted to diffuse the situation and move on so I said that was great and wished him all the best. In response he told me to “fuck off and delete his number”. I respected his wishes and did just that on Sunday night.

I didn’t hear anything from him all day yesterday so assumed that was the end of it, but at around 8pm I was bombarded with messages saying “he was going to end his life tonight”. I didn’t want to encourage the conversation but also didn’t want to completely ignore him just incase he did take such drastic measures. I wouldn’t be able to live with myself so I sent him the number for the Samaritans in an effort to help him. I was only trying to do the right thing but in response he said “it was on me, that he hated me and that I was a fucking cunt among other things”. I’ve also apparently ruined his life and it’s all my fault. He then blocked me and I haven’t heard anything since. I’ve felt on edge all morning and just really down about the whole situation. I don’t think I’ve done anything wrong and all I’ve tried to do since meeting him is help him and give him a chance to be happy with me but he threw all that back in my face. My mum said it’s not normal to put all of this onto someone after only knowing them for a month and he obviously has many problems that he needs to work on. He saids everyone has a problem because he went to jail when in fact I think he’s the one with the problem. I think he’s bitter about his own life. I’m not sure if he was just annoyed that I did move on, didn’t chase him or give him any attention so perhaps that’s why he threatened to take his own life last night.

I’m trying to not give it any more headspace and forget about it but I just feel incredibly down about it all. I just can’t understand how he could hate me so much when I’ve not done nothing wrong. I’ve never experienced this before with anyone so it’s just quite difficult to process. Thanks for reading if you have got this far x

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QualityFeet · 11/08/2020 12:13

It is very upsetting to be confronted by People who are scary. This man’s inability to regulate his emotional responses and his impulsivity ans aggression are awful to be around.

The scary part is that most of this was signposted very early on and You still kept giving extra chances - this incident doesn’t matter in the long term but you need to work on your boundaries and standards to keep you safe. No second chances on dates and no driving to the houses of men you don’t know that well. The first time someone seems mean, is thoughtless, is selfish, is critical, is demanding, is needy then that’s them done. You don’t want these people in your life. You can build a life full of great people or you can be someone who has to buffer yourself against the ways they disappoint you.

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Collidascope · 11/08/2020 12:16

As others have said, block all contact. If he tries to get in touch from another number, ignore. He's not going to kill himself, and threatening to do so is textbook abuser territory. Good thing he showed his true nature early on. I second that six months in jail for a fight with his uncle is a long time. Suspect there's more to it than that.

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Wilsonscaresme · 11/08/2020 12:16

he thought by me coming into his life that would help as I have “my head screwed on”

That would be enough for me to leg it.

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NameChange84 · 11/08/2020 12:18

Oh goodness this is awful but I can’t say I’m surprised...there were so many red flags.

Can I gently ask why you didn’t leave things after you found out his violent history and jail time? There were so many red flags. You really, really don’t owe anyone a relationship. A lot of my friends and even my younger self used to go around rescuing guys and feeling sorry for bad sorts, thinking we owed them a chance or could fix them. If this sounds familiar, it might give you confidence going forward to do The Freedom Programme. It helps you spot warning signs early on. You sound vulnerable because of your good nature. Don’t let this scare you off completely but work on trusting your intuition and putting in boundaries. It’s fine to block and move on in situations like this. Even early on, before you’ve met up.

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namechange12a · 11/08/2020 12:21

Despite all of this I wanted to give him a chance as we all make mistakes and he told me that he wasn’t that person anymore...

OP I can only imagine that you have lived your life in some kind of bubble where bad people are only found under bridges in fairy tales. But they do exist and you don't hang around to see if they're going to abuse you.

I really suggest you stay away from online dating until you've read up on red flags. Red flags are an indicator of abuse and general bad behaviour in a person. Someone who's done jail time for beating up a relative goes firmly in the potential abuser section and you run away.

You don't give them chances. Big drinkers or alcoholics, people who tell you to 'run a mile', people who tell you to 'fuck off', who sulk, who have shitty friends, who try to manipulate you with suicide threats.

You're also part of the problem:

all I’ve tried to do since meeting him is help him and give him a chance to be happy with me

What were you thinking? Why are you spending your precious time and resources trying to help this arsehole?

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2beautifulbabs · 11/08/2020 12:22

Agree with everyone else op block this blokes number and cease all contact even when he tries to get in touch ignore.
You are lucky in a way he showed you his true self early on before getting sucked further into all of this horrible mess.

You will find someone op it happens when you least expect it.

I had numerous disaster online dating, I finally met my DH on tinder of all things we've been married for four years now and have 2 DCs both early 30s as well.

I kept thinking I was never going to met someone decent and just when I decided to give it up and happy being on my own I finally met my DH.

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time4anothername · 11/08/2020 12:29

sounds like he could have been on a coke or similar come down that morning, hence the mixture of shame, depression and anger. Big red flat that he can not take responsiblity for himself but needs to blame others.

I'd block him and hope he forgets about you. Save your kindness for someone who is more stable and gives kindness back. Leave the rescuing to the professionals who can close the door on it after work.

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Nanny0gg · 11/08/2020 12:30

@ShebaShimmyShake

Stop feeling obliged to "give men a chance" even when they've been in both prison and serious debt. Seriously, stop feeling obliged to be "nice" and as if you owe anything at all to some near stranger. And definitely run a mile from the ones who want you to fix them, especially on the first date.

I don't mean to victim blame because this is obviously all his fault, but you must stop thinking that you have any kind of obligation to someone you hardly know even when they're waving red flags like they're at a Communist rally.

^This with bells on.

Set a higher bar
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ShesMadeATwatOfMePam · 11/08/2020 12:33

You don't have to be nice to these men. You'd only met him a couple of times. He should have been on his best behaviour. Lucky escape, next time remember - you don't have to be nice to someone who is being a dick to you. If he does hurt himself its obviously not your fault.

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ShesMadeATwatOfMePam · 11/08/2020 12:35

all I’ve tried to do since meeting him is help him and give him a chance to be happy with me

And this is bizarre. It's not up to you to give him a chance to be happy. You're putting this random bloke way ahead of your own happiness and you don't even know him!

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Kitkat05 · 11/08/2020 12:38

Block him

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AfterSchoolWorry · 11/08/2020 12:40

Bloody hell OP.

I don't know where to start.

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tara66 · 11/08/2020 12:42

Awful, terrible experience. I have to say be more discriminating next time. Only meet people for coffee in day time who live near by to assess them by your standards for the first few times you meet and tell them why i.e. this man.

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ThirtyAndASmidgen · 11/08/2020 12:42

What an upsetting experience for you Flowers I would say though that the red flags were there from the beginning - a convicted criminal who blatantly disregarded your wishes with the repeatedly putting you on FaceTime thing. That was incredibly disrespectful and should have been the red flag to end it there and then.

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Chasingstars9 · 11/08/2020 12:44

Looking back now I should have moved on when he told me he'd been to jail. He said his uncle use to bully him growing up. They were in a pub one night and his uncle made a comment and he just snapped and beat him up. He moved away from where he's from and where all his family live to start a new life. I thought since he'd got himself a job and somewhere to live that he was really trying to better himself and that's why I gave him a chance in the first place. We all make mistakes after all. He seems like a very happy go lucky type of person when we first met but things changed very suddenly and his true colours came out. Maybe I ignored the red flags, I don't know. My mum saids that I try to see the good in everyone, she's the same.

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MoJoBangles · 11/08/2020 12:45

OP you've had a lucky escape. He sounds like a sociopath (and I'm not being flippant). Do you know what the actual crime against his uncle was? 6 months is a very long time and could possibly be GBH (look up the definition and you will see how serious this is).

Everything you have listed about his behaviour is what my socipathic ex did/said.

Threatening suicide is emotional abuse, calling you names is emotional abuse. Either his parents have given up on him as he is so awful or he is lying about not seeing them as he doesn't want you to meet them and tell you the truth about this guy.

You need to be very careful to block him on everything. These types don't tend to let go easily.

Please don't underestimate how potentially dangerous this guy could be.

If you ever met the devil, he would make you feel sorry for him. Sociopaths like to play the victim to attract caring people and see how far they control them.

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Goongoon · 11/08/2020 12:45

Wooooow you dodged a bullet there. Sorry you got burned a bit though. Definite personality disorder and determined to drag others down with him. You’ve really had a lucky escape. And I hope you know that IF (and I highly doubt he would) he had harmed himself in anyway it absolutely would not be your fault.
Please block him and don’t give him another thought.

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VettiyaIruken · 11/08/2020 12:48

You've met him twice.
I think you've given him more than enough chances for someone you know less well than the cheese in your fridge!

You owe him nothing. Not your time, not your kindness and certainly not any more 'chances'. This is how women sleepwalk into abusive relationships. Conditioned to be Nice and Kind and Understanding and to Prioritise The Man.

Fuck that! Block him and forget about him forever.
Well, get down on your knees and give thanks to whatever gods you believe in that he couldn't resist showing himself! Then forget about him forever.

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Bunnymumy · 11/08/2020 12:48

My mum is like that too and those values passed on to me led me into far too much shit. Some people have no good in them. Theres a fuck ton of disorderd assholes out there just looking for someone who is determined to see the best in them. Even when it isnt there. They are predators.

My motto now is to treat kind people with kindness but run like the wind from shitheads.

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PicsInRed · 11/08/2020 12:51

He was honest with me

Go on... Hmm

...and explained that he’d been to jail for 6 months when he was 19 after getting into a fight with his uncle

Relationship over.*

Glad you got out in one piece, and an excellent lesson which will hopefully keep you safe in future!

*He was testing you boundaries and what you would put up with. Google "shark cage and relationships", which explains the concept beautifully.

The rest of your post was just a horror show, which goes to show what a huge red flag that "aww just a little prison for thrashing my uncle, no biggie" admission was.

Have you done the Freedom Programme?

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QueSera · 11/08/2020 13:02

That's horrible OP.
Does he know your address?

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Chasingstars9 · 11/08/2020 13:03

No @PicsInRed I've never heard of the freedom programme

@QueSera luckily he does not have my address. He never came to my house as he didn't have a car, I always went up there to see him.

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FredaFrogspawn · 11/08/2020 13:05

Good you are breaking contact with this man. I would also suggest you consider talking therapies to support you to escape from what so many of us fall into - wanting to rescue impossible men. This tendency usually comes from something in your past. Flowers

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saywhatwhatnow · 11/08/2020 13:12

Run. You do not want to be involved with this man.

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Middersweekly · 11/08/2020 13:12

Crikey OP that makes for a scary read! He definitely has some sort of MH issues along with a history of violence. Women should really be warned about men like this in advance! Glad you blocked his number! I hope he doesn’t have an address for you!

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