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What could be wrong with her?

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Heidi3333 · 03/08/2020 17:35

What could be wrong with her?

Hi there. Just looking for some opinions please.

My brother split with his ex wife 5 years ago. They have 3 kids together age7, 9 and 12. Their relationship was very turbulent and she eventually left him for another man, falling pregnant with the new man 6 months later. My brother divorced her and she still with the other man.

She has a reputation for being moody, fiery and prone to having aggressive outbursts over trivial things that wouldn’t upset anyone else but she has gotten worse the last few years since. She was always fine with me but everyone else in my family have had problems with her. Her own family say she was a v “troubled” child.

I’m a nurse (not psychiatric) and have a basic understanding of mental health but I’m sure she needs help. However, I’m not sure exactly what could be troubling her.

Some examples of her behaviour :

⁃	extremely jealous of other women paying attention (even working with or talking) to my brother when they were married. Even though my brother has remained single since they split she’s said she will go crazy when he eventually meets someone else. 
⁃	She slashed their car tyres to ensure a friend couldn’t borrow their car then cracked up at my brother when he didn’t replace the tyres quickly enough.
⁃	Frequently tells my brother his children aren’t his, that he needs a DNA test, that they hate him etc etc and that her life mission is to turn them against him. He is a great Dad and the kids seem to love him.
⁃	Is always falling out with family and friends.
⁃	Seems to enjoy fighting and arguing with people. Volunteered to come and ‘sort out’ some people I was having bother with.
⁃	Uses her children as pawns to extort money/child visits out my brother all the time. Doesn’t care if she upsets her children by denying them access to their Dad to get what she wants. This can go on for months at a time.
⁃	Goes onto her 12 year old daughters social media and pretends to be her by posting horrible comments about her Dad.
⁃	Is very controlling with her children when they are visiting their Dad - always phoning, checking and even coming and taking them back to hers if certain conditions she’s made (usually v unreasonable) aren’t met.

The list goes on and on.

As far as I know she isn’t violent but my brothers both think she is capable of hurting someone.

She doesn’t think there’s anything wrong with her and has never sought help.

I’m worried that my nieces are suffering from emotional abuse and that they will end up damaged.

My brother is currently getting legal help to get regular access to his kids as he hasn’t had them up for months.

What could be the matter with her? And is there anything I can do?

OP posts:
CarrotCakeCrumbs · 04/08/2020 16:20

@passthemustard I have noticed on a lot of threads on here that there seems to be a HUGE stigma about BPD! It seems to be mentioned for every single person who happens to do something horrible. I have BPD and reading some of the things people have to say about the illness has made me feel awful about myself at times - I know as you say that everyone will present differently but myself and others I know with BPD aren't horrible people - yet that does seem to be the assumption on here.

Gracie65 · 04/08/2020 16:49

Hello heidi3333,

Sorry your brother and family are going through this. It's a terrible experience especially for the children.

Have experienced similar and just wanted to say that my family member also didn't have funds to take it through the courts. He was quoted "around £18,000".
I advise that your brother self represents (without a solicitor) in court. Many fathers take this route nowadays and family courts are used to dealing with it.

There are several internet resources available to give advice. You can look up the gov.uk website on "How to represent yourself in family court uk", or go to families need fathers at fnf.org.uk. to name just a couple. Also a book that is very helpful available on Amazon, written by Jason Hadden & Rhiannon Davies titled "how to represent yourself in the family court - A guide to Understanding and Resolving Family Disputes".

My family member spent around £600 in total and had his final hearing where he was successful gaining regular access to his children with overnight stays, weekend stays and half of all holidays.

I wish you and your brother well as it can be a harrowing time when you believe the children are suffering emotional harm.

SeaEagleFeather · 04/08/2020 20:13

Heidi you've had some really truly weird responses here

Take the useful ones, ignore the unhinged ones and I hope that somehow, you find a way to protect your nieces.

If she will allow you to have access, being stable, kind and having -healthy- boundaries and most of all listening to them will remain with them as they grow up.

Heidi3333 · 05/08/2020 08:06

Thank you for the replies.

Mediation wouldn't work with her. You can't reason with someone totally unreasonable.

I DO believe she is emotionally abusing her children by her behaviour. She uses them as pawns, frequently upsets them by using them to punish their father eg. Won't let them come to my daughters birthday party unless he gives her say £100 which he can't afford, is always shouting at them, tells them their dad hates them etc. I think they would be better off with their father but that's not what he is fighting for - he just wants weekend access.

Yes he probably shouldn't have had 3 kids with her but although she's always been fiery she seems to have gotten much worse since having their last child 6 years ago.

Thank you for your useful information Gracie, I will pass that on to my brother 🙂

And maybe, as some of you mentioned, she doesn't have MH problems, she just a horrible mean person!

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Heidi3333 · 10/08/2020 10:39

Agggh.

She's now blocked my niece from me on WhatsApp and deleted my mum from her FB too!

She also blocked my brother (her Dad) from my nieces WhatsApp.

I could cry as I'm close to my niece. She's starting school tomorrow and I wanted to send her a good luck message.

My brother said she's wanting to cut off my niece from all our family.

The sooner this is sorted out the better.

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Menora · 10/08/2020 11:55

Yes I agree and it is very sad, but also as you asked your niece whether she wanted to leave her mother this is not really a massive shock that this is a consequence and exactly why you should leave such conversations to professionals

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