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Boyfriend struggling with my kids

54 replies

EmKR100 · 03/08/2020 14:51

Hello,

I’ve been with my boyfriend for nearly three years. He’s unmarried and childless, I’m divorced with two kids (10 and 6). He lives alone. From the start he was head over heels in love. Talked about marriage and having our own kid. Wanted to meet my kids. I let him after six months.

He came over a fair amount to do family stuff but did seem to find it hard and admitted it was a difficult and new thing for him. He made the effort, cooks for us, does bbqs and is around. To begin with he also played games with us and went camping etc.

He only stayed over one or two nights a week while the kids were there intially. He found it overwhelming that my then three year old would climb into bed in the night occasionally. I respected that and weaned her off it.

I found out I was unexpectedly pregnant. He had cheated on me the previous year, and was still only with us one night a week and not keen to stay more. After a major agony I decided to have an abortion as I didn’t feel I could trust him to be around and could not do the single parent thing again with a new baby and an unreliable man.

We discussed things all the time obviously and he made it clear he loved me and was trying his hardest with the living together/Family stuff. He said he found it almost impossible to be in the family home I used to share with my ex. I decided to move, partly because of this but mostly for financial reasons. I moved close by.

He was supposed to move in last July and the idea was to build a home together for ourselves and my kids. He bailed shortly beforehand and said he needed a few months, then a few more months. He still has his flat now, a year on.

He has, since Christmas, started staying over 7 nights a week, and only has his flat to go back to as a sort of safety net. But he’s visibly unhappy. We’ve stopped having sex completely over the last few months which is unthinkable for us previously. He’s started sitting in the garden with his headphones in while I do everything with the kids, and as soon as he gets up he’s off on his bike all day until they’re nearly in bed. He never comes on trips or to hang out with my friends with kids etc. He’s basically said he loves me but it’s everything else he can’t handle living with.

I can’t work out what to do. Lockdown has
Obviously been really hard and he loves and misses his job so much. I don’t know how long to give the no sex thing. It’s driving me mad feeling so undesired. I can’t seem to fix it and yet he wants to stay together. I do too in a way. Is it unrealistic to want someone to come and be by my side and live with me even though I have kids? He seems to think it’s a huge thing I’m asking of him and it’s normal and fine to keep his flat. I would love to have a child with him and for him to experience the joy of that but he seems so resistant to anything domestic. He wants a child but he just can’t handle the day to day of family life. I worry my kids deserve more from someone in their life too.

Should I just cut the cord here? Ouch.

OP posts:
Alexandernevermind · 03/08/2020 14:54

It sounds like you've moved mountains for him but are getting nothing in return. You and your children deserve much, much better.

Wheresthebiffer2 · 03/08/2020 15:03

This is so sad. It sounds as if you are in love, but at totally different stages in your lives. He's still at the early days and wants to woo you, love you, wine and dine you. Whereas you are already far ahead, in the mum role, with children already here. Just as you cannot deny you have children and go backwards to an earlier time, he (it seems despite all efforts) cannot jump into your life of parenthood. I don't see it working as there is so much that cannot be compromised on. I'm so sorry.

PoetaDeLosSandwiches · 03/08/2020 15:06

It's entirely reasonable to want a partner to be by your side and live with you and your dc. It's also normal and fine for him to want to keep his flat. The problem is that the two of you want different things. Him not wanting to participate in domestic life is not right or wrong, but with your dc such an important part of your life, it does mean that he is not a suitable partner for you.

So yes, cut the cord.

DianaT1969 · 03/08/2020 15:07

He has opted out of family life. He cheated on you. You forgave him and took him back. He wasn't potential father/partner material when you had an unplanned pregnancy. You never see him being able to cope with family life.
You need to throw this fish back in the water.

Figgygal · 03/08/2020 15:09

Seriously it’s not working and after 3 years what will change?

Oh and he’s a cheat Confused
Please don’t have a child with him

Aussiebean · 03/08/2020 15:10

So you are unhappy, but he is the one deciding if you should be in the relationship?

CodenameVillanelle · 03/08/2020 15:11

You can't work out what to do? Really?

stoploss · 03/08/2020 15:12

Your children deserve so much more, ask him to go back to his flat.

You have been with him 3 years, things will not change, he has shown you he can't/won't handle family life, listen to him and get rid of him.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 03/08/2020 15:13

What do you get out of this relationship now?. He has some red flags here about him and also sounds like a cocklodger to boot. He is now staying at yours all the time so he can be fed, watered and with his laundry done by you all at no cost to him either.

I guess too you met this man not too long after your divorce either. Your boundaries, already weakened perhaps by a poor marriage, have been further weakened by this man now. Put your own self and children front and centre here now, not this person whom you have done far too much for already. What has he done in return other than cheat and use your home now as a b and b?

What do you want to teach your children about relationships and what are they learning here?.

Is he really the sort of person you want in your kids lives; I feel they deserve a nicer example for a stepfather actually rather than a man who cheats on their mother not even three years into the relationship.
I would be telling him that this is no longer working for you and that he can find some other woman to sponge off and otherwise use.

Goinghometocallie · 03/08/2020 15:13

Eurgh. Come on you know what to do! Get rid, you’re kids deserve better.

howfarwevecome · 03/08/2020 15:13

Your fighting for a relationship that doesn't exist.

Tell him to go back to his 'safety net' of a flat and to lose your number.

Feralkidsatthecampsite · 03/08/2020 15:15

I had dc when I met my now dh. He had a wobble of a fortnight when an extra 2 dc moved in ft... So did I tbh!!
Your bf has told you in so many ways this relationship isn't for him. You need to act upon those massive hints and end things. Your dc need you fully committed. Not pacifying a man who doesn't want to be around for them.

litterbird · 03/08/2020 15:16

Quote "He had cheated on me the previous year,"

He's not the one for you and definitely not the one to have around your children. It is not a good relationship. Cut the cord and move on. So sorry OP.

Glitterandunicorns · 03/08/2020 15:18

Hi @EmKR100. I think you've answered your own questions. As you said, your children deserve far more from someone in their life, particularly from someone who is actually living with you all (or sleeping over every night; I'm not sure where the difference lies). It doesn't sound healthy for them to see a person living with them who is "visibly unhappy" and who avoids participating in family life at all.

You're not having sex, and clearly you're not happy about that. He's visibly unhappy. You said he wants a child. I don't believe that at all. He has shown no clue that he wants a life with children, or even a life with you. I'm so sorry to say that; I don't mean it as harshly as it sounds.

Break it down:
He's visibly unhappy
You're not having sex
He won't participate in family life or do anything with your kids (cooking meals doesn't count)
He won't sell his flat even though you have sold your house and moved for him
He cheated on you

I think with all this being said, I don't see any resolution for this. You're really trying and he is doing nothing to resolve these issues. He should be jumping through hoops for your kids when you've been in a relationship for this long.

When there are kids involved, we have to model healthy relationships for them. Your kids are old enough to see what's going on and take it in. This doesn't sound like a relationship I would want for my kids.

Best of luck, OP.

Zaphodsotherhead · 03/08/2020 15:22

I was reading along thinking yes, it can be hard when one of you has children full time - and then you throw in almost casually that he CHEATED ON YOU.

I got no further. He's a waste of space. It doesn't matter if he adores your kids and wants to adopt them, HE CHEATED ON YOU.

TeamLannister · 03/08/2020 15:26

He's not the one. Don't inflict him on your kids any longer, he won't make any of you happy.

Opentooffers · 03/08/2020 15:27

So he's at yours 7 days a week now he's not working, is he financially contributing to bills and food? If not, you have your answer why he's there despite being unhappy.
You should of dumped him when he first showed signs of not coping with kids, and definitely when he cheated. He adds nothing to your life, anyone can say words of love, don't believe words, judge by actions.
He's likely cock-lodging for convenience at the moment.
I'd advise when single with kids it's better to form a relationship with someone who has kids - even then it's not guaranteed as they could of been standoffish with their own. If someone hasn't had their own kids by a certain age, they are likely not feeling it paternally, and possibly never will. The fact that he took your abortion in his stride and probably was relieved speaks volumes. Send him packing, he's not what you or your kids need in your lives.

SimonJT · 03/08/2020 15:30

Three years!

Living with someone elses child/ren is hard, my boyfriend moved in at the start of March, it has been tough at times, but he gets on well with my son and more importantly my sons behaviour hasn’t changed, hes happy, comfortable etc. They do things together, occasionally go to the park etc without me.

He does not want step children, which is fine, whats not fine is stringing you along.

Lets imagine you do have a child together, how will your children cope when they are still the inconvenience on the side while he focuses on the new child.

Thornhill58 · 03/08/2020 15:39

I don't think you can fix it. Your kids are always going to be around so if he is unhappy and can't cope this is the time to end things.
He isn't ready to be a Dad or a husband.

Immigrantsong · 03/08/2020 15:47

OP do you seriously think you have acted in your children's best interests in all you have done with this loser of a man? I mean seriously why would you move your family for this guy? Come on get a grip and start putting them above a man.

DotForShort · 03/08/2020 15:54

It's unfair for your children to live with a man who just tolerates them. It sounds as though he has essentially checked out of the relationship with you too. Three years may seem like a big commitment, but don't stay with him just because you've invested time, energy, emotion for this long. The sunk cost fallacy springs to mind.

Bluntness100 · 03/08/2020 15:58

You need to both accept your fundamental incompatiblities. And if you can see each other sway from the kids, and keep yout relationship separate then it could work if you both are ok with that. It wouldn’t impact your kids if you did that.

The issue is, he would be happy with that, but you want more. So I think it’s best to end it now.

Bouledeneige · 03/08/2020 16:07

It would be fine if you were happy to have a boyfriend you saw a couple of nights a week who didn't live in. It might be a nice adult relationship. But that's not what you want - you want him to move in and take on your kids - which would be hard for many childless men. You want different things and either if you are wrong - you're just not right for each other.

rvby · 03/08/2020 16:11

He cheated on you.

You aborted a pregnancy to him out of lack of trust in him.

He has shown that he communicates one thing in words, but his actions bear out something different. E.g house move.

He is now sulking/behaving miserably as if he is daring you to remove things that upset him, instead of taking on responsibility for his own mental health, communicating clearly, etc.

He says he wants a baby but is clearly telling you via actions that he doesn't want to be around your children.

Sorry but the absolute plain truth is, if you keep going with this guy and follow his instructions, here is where you will end up:

  • you'll get pregnant
  • he will still have the flat
  • he will come over sometimes and do the fun stuff with baby
  • he will drive a wedge between his baby and your existing dc, will start unfavorably comparing them
  • your DC will be called up to dance attendance on him and new baby because you will be desperately trying to keep the peace in the home
  • he will go back to the flat constantly, and check out at exactly the times you need him
  • he will harangue you everytime you beg him to stay engaged in family life "you knew I was a person who needed space, I told you"
  • eventually you will become the harpy
  • he will take off with the next woman who will be the one "rescuing" him from you, he will tell the new woman you trapped him, etc.

Also, I'd put money on the reason he is sulking at the moment and staying over 7 days, is actually this: he'd had a regular shag coming over, and shes ended it with him, so now he is moping at your house getting pampered and fussed over.

Seriously love. This guy is a child.

Skills2597 · 03/08/2020 16:13

OP, let him go. I always encourage people to meet the children early. Investing in a relationship when you have kids and not knowing how the other person will get on with your children is so unfair on the children. What does he expect you to do with the children?

People getting in relationships where children are involved have to be mature to know that the kids do not get to choose their parents partners. He is selfish and immature. Do not allow him around the children or leave them alone with him.