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Boyfriend struggling with my kids

54 replies

EmKR100 · 03/08/2020 14:51

Hello,

I’ve been with my boyfriend for nearly three years. He’s unmarried and childless, I’m divorced with two kids (10 and 6). He lives alone. From the start he was head over heels in love. Talked about marriage and having our own kid. Wanted to meet my kids. I let him after six months.

He came over a fair amount to do family stuff but did seem to find it hard and admitted it was a difficult and new thing for him. He made the effort, cooks for us, does bbqs and is around. To begin with he also played games with us and went camping etc.

He only stayed over one or two nights a week while the kids were there intially. He found it overwhelming that my then three year old would climb into bed in the night occasionally. I respected that and weaned her off it.

I found out I was unexpectedly pregnant. He had cheated on me the previous year, and was still only with us one night a week and not keen to stay more. After a major agony I decided to have an abortion as I didn’t feel I could trust him to be around and could not do the single parent thing again with a new baby and an unreliable man.

We discussed things all the time obviously and he made it clear he loved me and was trying his hardest with the living together/Family stuff. He said he found it almost impossible to be in the family home I used to share with my ex. I decided to move, partly because of this but mostly for financial reasons. I moved close by.

He was supposed to move in last July and the idea was to build a home together for ourselves and my kids. He bailed shortly beforehand and said he needed a few months, then a few more months. He still has his flat now, a year on.

He has, since Christmas, started staying over 7 nights a week, and only has his flat to go back to as a sort of safety net. But he’s visibly unhappy. We’ve stopped having sex completely over the last few months which is unthinkable for us previously. He’s started sitting in the garden with his headphones in while I do everything with the kids, and as soon as he gets up he’s off on his bike all day until they’re nearly in bed. He never comes on trips or to hang out with my friends with kids etc. He’s basically said he loves me but it’s everything else he can’t handle living with.

I can’t work out what to do. Lockdown has
Obviously been really hard and he loves and misses his job so much. I don’t know how long to give the no sex thing. It’s driving me mad feeling so undesired. I can’t seem to fix it and yet he wants to stay together. I do too in a way. Is it unrealistic to want someone to come and be by my side and live with me even though I have kids? He seems to think it’s a huge thing I’m asking of him and it’s normal and fine to keep his flat. I would love to have a child with him and for him to experience the joy of that but he seems so resistant to anything domestic. He wants a child but he just can’t handle the day to day of family life. I worry my kids deserve more from someone in their life too.

Should I just cut the cord here? Ouch.

OP posts:
Iwantalonglie · 03/08/2020 16:16

This isn't going to work. You need to let each other go.

Patbutcherismyhero · 03/08/2020 16:21

I don't think having a child with him is the answer if he can't handle the ones you already have. Yes it might be different if it's biologically his but that in itself will cause problems and your kids may feel excluded. Either that or he'll continue opting out of family life and you'll have three kids to raise alone.

It's hard being a stepparent. Some people aren't cut out for it. I think in the early days he was obviously trying to make an effort with your kids to impress you but now he clearly can't be bothered anymore. It's sad but it would be a deal breaker for me. The kids will be picking up on it too.

Fatherbrownsbicycle · 03/08/2020 16:28

rvby has it.

Your kids-and you-deserve better.

Dollyrocket · 03/08/2020 16:29

Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s AirBnB’ing his flat and saving up whilst cocklodging at your pad.

You and your children are worth SO much more than this.

BumbleBeee69 · 03/08/2020 16:46

it's over..... acknowledge it forget this PRICK and focus on your beautiful children 🌺

forrestgreen · 03/08/2020 16:53

You changed everything to the way he wanted and he's still not happy.
He comes and goes as he pleases.
How must your children be feeling, because they know they're in the way.
I'm really hoping he's paying his way whilst he's at yours.

I don't see a future sorry

MsPavlichenko · 03/08/2020 17:31

Ditch him. You lost me at the point you "weaned" your three year old off coming into bed for cuddles. You won't get that time back. God knows how he is making your DC feel, given how you do. Don't kid yourself they don't know how he feels and treats you and them. He would be a shit Dad BTW as I suspect you know.

Please do the right thing here for you and your DC.

MsPavlichenko · 03/08/2020 17:35

Wheresthebiffer2
In what way is he wanting to "woo" the OP? He is doing nothing like.

Aquicknamechange2019 · 03/08/2020 17:36

OMG get rid of him, life is too short for him and his amateur dramatics! You deserve SO MUCH BETTER

Bananabread8 · 03/08/2020 17:40

Since Christmas does he contribute finically? Your not compatible and you should be the one to pull the plug.

AllsortsofAwkward · 03/08/2020 18:06

Put youre kids first he doesnt seem interested, he's cheated on you what else is there left to say.

Aquamarine1029 · 03/08/2020 18:09

I cringe thinking about how much of your life you've already wasted on this manchild.

CosSam1 · 03/08/2020 18:18

Your kids come first. Fuck him

SoulofanAggron · 03/08/2020 18:23

He is gaslighting you by implying that all men would find it hard to commit properly/live with you when you have kids. With most blokes, if they loved you, they'd be ok with it or give it their best shot (he hasn't.) And it must be painful to have it said to you- that he finds it so impossible to commit to you. Sad

This should've ended when he cheated on you.

With the going out all day 'on his bike,' I wonder if he's having another affair.

GenXer · 03/08/2020 18:23

Your children are part of the package so to speak. He knew you were a mother. It seems to me that you've done everything you could possibly do to make him more comfortable and happy, yet he's still unhappy. For what it's worth I think you did the right thing terminating the pregnancy.
If you're looking for answers here I would strongly suggest you end this relationship because it's uneven: you are doing all the giving and getting nothing back.

Dontknownow86 · 03/08/2020 18:34

There's a difference between objectively knowing you are a mother and living that experience. I'd personally find it extremely difficult if my step children moved in permanently.

That being said the situation is unchangeable and clearly not working for either of you. I would let him go so you can both find a situation you're happier with.

Namechange8471 · 03/08/2020 18:37

Jesus Christ op, you kicked your toddler out of bed to accommodate this man, you moved your children’s stable home to please him. And he cheated on you?!

All in 3 years?

Fuck that!

Namechange8471 · 03/08/2020 18:40

He is gaslighting you by implying that all men would find it hard to commit properly/live with you when you have kids.

Yes to this!
When I met dp he had no experience with kids, but guess what? He put the effort in and 5 years down the line we are very happy.

Also you rarely see him so what’s the point ?

Dd also met my partner after 6 months, then he spent weekends etc. We moved in together after around 2.5 years.

You’re wasting your time op, cut your losses he’s a loser and a cheater!

Monr0e · 03/08/2020 18:47

You want to have a child with a man who cannot tolerate the ones you already have?

Do you think he will suddenly come to love yours once he has one of his own? Because I can guarantee he won't.

So he will either treat your dc completely differently from his own, and they will notice and feel even more crap than they undoubtedly do at the moment.

Or he won't give a shit about his own child either and will continue to completely avoid any kind of family life leaving you a single parent to 3 dc's.

And he cheated on you 😒

I really struggle to see why some women are so desperate to cling on to men like this to the detriment of their dc no matter how bad they treat them.

Dery · 03/08/2020 18:53

"Jesus Christ op, you kicked your toddler out of bed to accommodate this man, you moved your children’s stable home to please him. And he cheated on you?!

All in 3 years?

Fuck that!"

This with bells on. What did you learn about relationships growing up? Why do his needs come ahead of yours and, in particular, your children's? Why are you contemplating having a baby with a man who can't be bothered to form a relationship with your existing children? Dear God, OP - what are you thinking? Please cut him loose and take a serious look at why you have been so willing to put this man's wants ahead of your children's needs and comfort.

1Micem0use · 03/08/2020 23:37

Poor little 3 year old child. Whose need for a cuddle was put aside for the wants of selfish man child.

BuffaloMozzerella · 04/08/2020 00:25

It's not going to work. You've both tried but it isn't working. I honestly would give it up now.

BlessYourCottonSocks · 04/08/2020 00:58

This isn't working.

I had young DCs when I met my DH who was childless and he admitted he liked kids but had never really thought about whether he wanted any of his own. From the start he was brilliant with them. He just took the attitude that they were part of the package.

Years later, after were married I once asked him if he'd have preferred it if I hadn't had children and he simply said they were a bonus. We have gone on to have DC together and he treats them all the same. His step DC adore him, have no/little contact with bio dad and think of DH as "Dad". Eldest DD once said he restored her faith in men after her own dad let her down repeatedly.

You really need someone who accepts you and your children as a package and wants the whole lot. You can't pick and choose the bits of family life you'll engage in.

DH has cleared up diarrhoea and vomit from children, paid their uni fees - despite them not being his children - and never complained. He's driven 700 miles to collect a DD who was rushed into hospital, and he's fixed broken vehicles and broken relationships..(actually not true. He's said he's a dickhead. Get rid of him, hen. He's not good enough for you). He's criticised their taste in music/clothes to me but told them they ----look great. He's the one they turn to when they are upset because he's kind. And reassuring. And I'm a bit of a nippy bitch.

He made all our lives immeasurably richer when he came into it. And we have reduced him to poverty in return.Grin. But he says he is happy.😉

jimmyjammy001 · 04/08/2020 01:06

He has obviously never dated a women with kids before and was completely unaware of the commitment it takes to be part of all their lives, after the honeymoon period realisation has obviously dawned on him and not the life he wants for the future, I guess he could do what he wanted and go where ever he wanted before the relationship.
all the days out with them, being in the house with them all the time has taken its toll by the sounds of it, obviously that is not a life he wants as with most blokes it is alot to ask to help bring up someone else's kids, it takes alot of time effort and commitment. You are at different stages in life, you have kids and he does not. He is best probs finding someone who does not have kids and having a go at it, maybe he will be different if they are his own.

HeddaGarbled · 04/08/2020 01:10

You throw “he had cheated on me the previous year” in as if it’s a minor detail. HE CHEATED ON YOU. This is important.