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I am full of sadness and regret please talk to me, I am desperate :(

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pleasehelps · 02/08/2020 11:29

I’ve been in a pit these last few months, started before lockdown and has carried on since.

I’m 34 and met a lovely man when I was 32. He adored me and things were good. It is no exaggeration to say he was wonderful to me, we got on well, he was committed. For whatever reason, I felt there was something missing...that something I now think is actually non existent and I’m tearing myself into pieces about it.

After I ended it, I got in contact with him a few months later, admittedly after many horrible dates and experiences with men that woke me up to how wonderful this person was. I realised how silly I had been and that I had felt scared off because he had come on quite strong. We started speaking again and he said he had been hurt but wanted to give it a go. We began seeing each other only for him to find out four weeks later that he had got a fling pregnant while we were apart. He changed his attitude completely at this point, telling me that he wasn’t sure about me anymore and that I had ruined everything, it was all my fault, he had offered me everything with him and I turned him down so it was my fault, told me i only wanted to find someone better and ‘look how that worked out.’ When he calmed down he said he didn’t want to fall out but that he didn’t want anything with me and it was a huge shame but it was all on me and I had made my bed so I should lie in it. I wished him all the best.

This whole thing has knocked me for six. I know his behaviour when he found out about his fling was cruel to me and unkind but really there was also truth in what he was saying wasn’t there!!! I did think I could do better, or thought I needed something different. I did go off and it hurt him. I did do those things and I was scared to commit as he came on quite strong.

But now I am nearly 35 and alone and the reality is that I have never before or since met a man who was as committed to me as he was. It was warm and safe and loving. I threw it away. I’ve dated loads since and when i got back in contact and admitted I messed up, this had happened and so we couldn’t be together anyway... It feels so cruel, you hear of people breaking up and getting back together and why couldn’t this have been us. I feel like god or whatever else doesn’t think I deserve anything good.

I’m terrified I have lost the only person who would ever have loved me and as daft as it sounds when I woke up this morning I just wandered round my house feeling sick and sad and full of regret. Nobody gets that sort of love twice do they and like he says, it is all on me that it has ended up like this.

Please help me process all this. I can’t see a future anymore and I don’t think I will ever feel safe or happy with a man ever again.

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pleasehelps · 02/08/2020 12:17

He wouldn’t do something like that. I expect I won’t hear from him again.

I’m just devastated that I lost someone who loved me and we’d have been together now if it hadn’t been for me. I am so low and alone

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pleasehelps · 02/08/2020 12:18

pellas I think he was frustrated that I had come back into his life at this time when this had happened. I’m not sure.

I’m alone though and he’s with someone and has a family. I don’t.

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Aerial2020 · 02/08/2020 12:18

Haven't you posted about this twice before?

pleasehelps · 02/08/2020 12:21

shiney thank you for your post. You are right that it is hugely nostalgia. I’m just so scared I won’t find it again and every date I go on feels so unfamiliar and scary. He was safe and home.

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pleasehelps · 02/08/2020 12:22

aerial yes I have Blush im just not coping well today and needed to talk. Hope that’s ok.

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LuluJakey1 · 02/08/2020 12:26

Rose-tinted glasses, grass is always greener etc.

You are feeling, anxious, uncertain and vulnerable and that's what this is about. Trust your initial gut reaction that made you end the relationship. He doesn't sound wonderful to me - dull, controlling and careless!

peppermintteadrinker · 02/08/2020 12:30

I think it might be helpful to think about this differently. I agree that his reaction was cruel and actually quite sanctimonious which personally I find very unattractive! He didn't need to do that. I know you probably hurt him but it's not showing him in a good light.

But.. His reaction isn't one you can control. You can look at you. For some reason when he offered you commitment you backed away. Figuring out why this was might be helpful? I've just had a break up with someone I loved deeply who is a commitment phobe. He's all over the place not knowing what he wants. I get it with him, and understand where it comes from and he does too but hasn't quite joined the dots to decide to deal with it.

If this is something that has happened before that might be worth looking at? If not, then why do you think it might have been this guy at this time that made you back off? Maybe you were uncomfortable with how intense he was for good reason and you should trust yourself?

GhostOfMe · 02/08/2020 12:32

I was thinking this too. @Bunnymumy 'OP you would not have been happy with him though. He would have showed you his true colours in some other way and either you would have been smart and chose to leave again or you would have been miserable with this person who had initially seemed to love you so much and now, seemed to have nothing but contempt for you. Who, whenever he fucked up or his behaviour was questioned - would turn it around on you. He has demonstrated that that is what he does. That's who he is, someone who cannot accept any responsibility for things and who will attack those who try to show him any error in his ways, ruthlessly'.

Your Ex reminded me of my DH both the coming on strong and the blaming you for his behaviour when things went wrong. I married the love of my life and you know what I hope I never find a love like this again and I hope I can manage to fix some of the mental damage he's done to me. I too would have said that DH was unfailing kind and supportive. You can't know what you're seeing is the person they really are when things are good and easy, when you're in the honeymoon stage. The person you saw at the end was the person he is when he's dealing with something going wrong or things being hard.

His choices got him where he is, not yours. You didn't force him to have sex, so how is him getting someone pregnant your fault? You broke up with him, but he chose to sleep with her. And you broke up with him because something wasn't right. And if he was a good man who loved you he would have done the right thing by committing to co-parent with her and take a real share in the care of his child, from the hands on day to day care to his child's emotional and financial care. Trying to force a relationship because a pregnancy resulted from a one night stand isn't doing the right thing by anyone including the child.

KrabbyPatties · 02/08/2020 12:32

Sorry to ask... are you sure this fling exists? Sounds like the whole reunion was engineered to punish you IMO

Block him .

pleasehelps · 02/08/2020 12:34

pepper I think with him it was a mix. He was very full on more than most but also I am more attracted when there is a bit of distance, which I recognise now is toxic. But when we were back in contact I had dealt with all that in the sense that I was ready and open to it. That’s why what unfolded seems cruel.

I think knowing he now basically has a family has made me feel shit after him telling me I ruined things between us which was a huge shame as we would have been happy. That is imprinted in my mind - I messed up and that’s why he has the fanily and I am alone.

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Bunnymumy · 02/08/2020 12:34

I think it's about mindset a little too op. I mean I'm single and not dating atm and yet I dont feel 'alone'. I'm content in my own company. The right partner would add to my life but just as a bonus.

I dont believe you need to love yourself to find love but I do think that if you learn to be content in yourself and your own company, then single life is a case of hakuna matata.

KrabbyPatties · 02/08/2020 12:35

Honestly OP

I think he has made up the pregnancy and the fling stop beating yourself up

RoseTintedAtuin · 02/08/2020 12:37

It is on you but it is also on him. He had relations and got someone pregnant and that is on him. He has chosen to try and make things work with someone else (for the sake of the child I suspect for which I have a great deal of respect) which is also on him.
There are many cases where something ends and one person moves on. What feels cruel about this situation is that because neither of you knew about the child you were willing to give it another go and this has been taken from you but this is definitely due to both of you not just you.
Try not to torture yourself with what ifs, it doesn’t help and there is nothing to learn from it. It is just a form of torture for both of you. Try to think of the things you liked about him and focus on these qualities when looking for your next partner x

pleasehelps · 02/08/2020 12:38

Those asking if he made up the pregnancy...definitely not as I am ashamed to say I had a look on social media and found the woman.

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Fatherbrownsbicycle · 02/08/2020 12:39

I can’t imagine anyone loving me like that again

Loving you or smothering you? Because it sounds like, with him being so full on, that you would have been suffocated. He wasn’t for you and you WILL find someone who loves you completely without the ‘he’s amazing- but...’

peppermintteadrinker · 02/08/2020 12:42

Don't be so hard on yourself. Relationships are hard to navigate. You didn't mess up. You reacted because you are you with your needs. It is true you chose to leave rather than communicate those needs. But you were also brave enough to ask to try again. The fact he got a fling pregnant doesn't reflect on you. That is circumstance. He might make a go of it but don't assume it's happy ever after.

Try and learn to communicate your needs (I'm working in this too!) next time. And there will be a next time!

You can meet someone and have a family. Many of my friends who did that in mid 30s met good men and have good relationships.

pleasehelps · 02/08/2020 12:43

fatherbrowns I am older now and I’ve never found that. I am so scared about the future and I feel so lost and empty. Doesn’t matter how many friends or hobbies I have, the loneliness of missing a relationship never leaves

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KrabbyPatties · 02/08/2020 12:46

Sorry for being so cynical OP

He sounds quite cruel you
Need time to heal

And honestly 34 isn’t old, I
Met my husband at that age

ButteryPuffin · 02/08/2020 12:51

Making a go of it with someone you had casual sex with and got pregnant isn't 'having a family'. Don't assume he's won the jackpot here. It could well be miserable. I agree that he's been very sanctimonious about this to punish you for breaking up. If the pregnancy hadn't happened, who knows, maybe some other thing would have come up where it would still be all your fault somehow?

You need to talk this through with a proper counsellor to allow you to overcome your depression. Start looking for one today. You can do this and it's still possible to meet someone nice. I don't believe there's only one person for everyone and your ex wasn't perfect.

dairydairywhyamihairy · 02/08/2020 12:54

He can't be that great if he tries to get away with blaming someone else for his inability to use appropriate protection when the person he was blaming wasn't even there when he chose to have sex. He's an adult. It's not your fault he got someone pregnant that's all on him and the woman he got pregnant.

pleasehelps · 02/08/2020 12:54

buttery I have found a counsellor and agree it is a good place to start.

He certainly seems happy having plastered it all over social media (now blocked) which I thought was pretty insensitive as he would have known I would see it

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TheBlueStocking · 02/08/2020 12:54

He doesn't sound very kind or generous. And ok, mistakes happen, but getting someone pregnant on a one night stand doesn't make him sound responsible or like he cares too much about the consequences of his behaviour on other people.

Be a friend to yourself here, OP. Of course someone will love you again. You sound lovely. Going to him with your feelings and being honest that you've made a mistake was brave. It didn't work out, but you followed your heart and took responsibility, and you should be proud of that. Now it's time to look forward and think about looking after yourself. He's just a symbol of something you feel you are missing. It's not him.

pleasehelps · 02/08/2020 12:56

theblue definitely agree he is a symbol of what I don’t have.

I’m so scared about the future. Nobody I date feels familiar and safe.

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GhostOfMe · 02/08/2020 13:01

I wouldn't judge anyone's relationship via social media. I'm sure it's not always the case, but the 2 friends I have that post the most about how amazing their dh/dp is and how much they love each other are both in deeply unhappy relationships.

Closetbeanmuncher · 02/08/2020 13:01

@Bunnymumy has nailed it.

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