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How did you know you did/didn’t want children

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sunshinexdreams · 17/07/2020 14:05

Hello everyone,

I’m currently going through a break up which is probably clouding my judgement on this but I’m curious about how you knew you did or didn’t want children?

If you’d asked me a month ago I’d have said I 100% want children (I’m a teacher- got to love kids to some extent in this job ha!) but if you asked me why, I genuinely couldn’t give you answer. I’ve just split with my boyfriend (he is adamant he doesn’t want children whereas I thought I did). I don’t know if it’s just the break up clouding my judgment or whether I’m maybe more on the fence than I thought but I’m curious about how other people “knew” 100% either way yes or no.

(I wasn’t sure where to post this so I hope this is okay!)

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Middersweekly · 17/07/2020 15:24

I was ambivalent about it until I met DH. No other previous partners I would have even considered it. There was something about being with him that changed my thought process really. I would say the split from your ex has clouded your judgement somewhat. When you’re with someone who wants children you will know for sure if it’s what you want.

AgeLikeWine · 17/07/2020 15:25

I’m very happily childfree by choice and it was absolutely the right decision for me. I have always known I didn’t want to be a parent, and I wasn’t particularly keen on children even when I was one myself. No regrets whatsoever.

girlwithadragontattoo · 17/07/2020 15:29

Just not fussed on it. I love my god son, but at the end of the day he's not my responsibility. I'm too selfish to want to care for a child and i like my lifestyle that i don't want to have to devote time to one either. I'm 34

AnotherEmma · 17/07/2020 15:35

I always wanted children. It wasn't really a rational, considered decision, it was more a fundamental desire that I didn't question. I could justify it in various ways (I felt that for me personally, having children would add meaning and joy to my life, that I hope to have a good relationship with my children for the rest of my life and to be in contact with them as I grow old, to accept dying knowing that I am leaving them behind, etc) but really, I just wanted them.

I knew about the cons in theory but didn't seriously consider them or consider not having children at all.

I always respected people who chose not to have children but never fully understand them until I became a parent myself Grin Now I am one, I don't regret it, but I realise properly how hard work it is, and how it completely changes your life. (Yes, I do feel silly for not thinking it through very deeply before Grin)

Crystalspider · 17/07/2020 15:35

Interesting, I think a lot of women feel the biological urge to have children more than men, I've had quite of few bf's in the past that weren't interested in having children maybe that was just my experience though, I'm not sure.
Personally I knew I wanted them from a very young age, I treated my dollies like they were the real deal! haha, went off kids briefly in my teens when my older DS had them and I realised how noisy they were, but I ended up having three, I would of had more even the chance.

nosotro · 17/07/2020 15:35

I was 28 years old and knew I wanted a family, I always knew I wanted a family but I'm still having a career. We have a live in nanny who is wonderful.

I'm 30 now, DS is 18 months & we are TTC our second next month.

It's very personal and I know people that don't want a family, a family means sacrifice regarding basically every aspect of your life but people who don't have children don't know how much you gain by having one. It's a difficult one and nobody can make that decision for you. I personally would never have dated my husband if he had told me at 21 (when we met at uni) that he never wanted children because even then, I knew.

AnotherEmma · 17/07/2020 15:36

understand understood

Nicolastuffedone · 17/07/2020 15:41

I have never wanted children, ever.......absolutely don’t regret it at all!

AnotherEmma · 17/07/2020 15:41

"people who don't have children don't know how much you gain by having one"

I have children and I think this statement is unfair. I think it is perfectly possible to for child-free people to understand what is to be gained from having a child; it's doing them a disservice to think that they don't. They have just decided it's not for them.

nosotro · 17/07/2020 15:53

@anotheremma I love my husband but as Ryan Reynolds said would use him as human shield to protect my child, I would die for my child, it's unconditional love, the pride you feel when they achieve something, it's different from anything I have ever experienced - this is why I am saying this. I'm not sure anyone who has not had children will ever understand what it feels like. I did not know love like this before but maybe you did and that's fine and maybe other people do too. I apologise if the statement seems unfair but that's genuinely how I feel, I knew before I wanted children but the love and what it feels like, I didn't know before.

AnotherEmma · 17/07/2020 16:03

Why not just say that, then? That you didn't understand how much you would love your children until you had them? Why claim that no one understands? It'll just offend child-free people.

Bunnymumy · 17/07/2020 16:07

'People who dont have children don't know how much you gain by having one'

I could say the same thing about becoming famous or selling up to go abroad and open an orphanage or changing careers or buying a house boat. I'm sure these things could add (and detract) imesurablely to a person life in various ways. But that doesn't mean they are right for that individual.

Graphista · 17/07/2020 16:12

I’ve always loved children, of all ages (though I’ll admit I find the 7-11 stage most challenging for various reasons) loved spending time with them not just in an abstract way. I’m the eldest of 3 and eldest of umpteen cousins also that I’ve been “helping” look after from a young age and have a close bond with.

As I reached teen stage I started babysitting for neighbours and friends and whereas other people babysitting who did it mainly as a way to supplement pocket money I really enjoyed it and was happy to start earlier if parents asked and participate in bath times and bedtime stories etc. Was also happy to do overnights, breakfast etc

I also became a young leader/volunteer with brownies while still only a guide and thoroughly enjoyed that too. This type of volunteer work was also something I continued doing until dd was reaching teen stage, I only stopped due to ill health and miss it hugely!

As far back as I could remember I wanted a larger family but unfortunately medically after dd I couldn’t have any more. Ex was against adopting and after split I didn’t feel able to adopt alone.

I’ve been a childminder and nanny at various points too.

Several of the “children” that I cared for have stayed in touch and I love seeing what they’re up to now as adults and am an “honorary aunty” to their dc whom I’ve also babysat.

My feelings were very much compounded following 1st mc and after 2nd mc I was utterly heartbroken and feared I’d never be a mother.

Luckily I had dd and I’ve loved being a mum, though of course it has its challenges as does anything worth doing!

I guess I’m the opposite of women who know they don’t want children, but I actually don’t have difficulty understanding that point of view.

Being a parent is not for everyone and I firmly believe isn’t something people should do because “everyone does”.

I have close friends in real life who are child free by choice and it’s absolutely the right decision for them for a wide variety of reasons, inc just not wanting to!

But in terms of your situation, it’s not something you can compromise on. If you give up the chance to be/or indeed become a parent because your partner does/doesn’t want children eventually, however good the relationship, resentment, guilt and other negatives build up and the relationship will likely end or be miserable anyway - I’ve seen that happen too!

It’s unfair on a child to foist on them a parent who didn’t really want to be a parent. I’ve seen the damage that can cause.

It’s also unfair on an adult to push them into either position against their choice.

Just be conscious that men have a much larger window of time than women do in which to come round to the thought of having children

So true!

One common scenario seen often on here and in real life is:

Couple together in 20’s/30’s, man keeps saying “not yet” while woman’s fertile years slip away, couple splits due to disagreement/resentment on this... man meets new woman and has baby within 18 months and is apparently “Superdad”! Woman from original couple heartbroken and can’t understand why he wouldn’t have dc with her.

There’s usually no reason, or no good one! I really strongly feel men currently aged under 40 are far less mature, responsible or considerate of their partners biology than men of previous generations. But that’s a whole other chat board! Let alone a thread!

I’m soon to be 28 so I think/Hope I’ve got a few more years to figure it out.

Unpopular opinion especially on here! But the reality is, however much societally/culturally Uk women tend to have children after 30, biology is that before 30 is better, certainly before 35. Not only in terms of conception but mc, pregnancy complications, likelihood of child having a health condition, difficulties with birth etc. Plus (again unpopular opinion!) babies and young children are KNACKERING!

My friends and family in real life vary right across from being very young, teen mums for 1st child to in mid 40’s. I’d definitely say from observing them and having dd late 20’s myself, that those who had 1st dc between 25-35 generally found conception, pregnancy, birth and early parenthood easier.

I think a lot of women feel the biological urge to have children more than men not true for all men, I know several for whom their partner not wanting dc would have been a deal breaker inc my own brother.

People who dont have children don't know how much you gain by having one

I too disagree with this statement and think it’s insulting to child free people.

It’s an experience, like many, that you can’t truly understand unless you’ve been through it. Doesn’t mean you have to go through it to know it’s not for you!

Lottapianos · 17/07/2020 16:37

'Why not just say that, then? That you didn't understand how much you would love your children until you had them?'

Indeed. It never takes very long on threads like these for the smugness to emerge, and yes, it is insulting to childfree people

MrsWooster · 17/07/2020 16:52

I thought intellectually that I would prob want children one day... very, very careful not to get Pregnant accidentally tho... I started to think it probably wouldn’t ever Be the right time... then I hit 42 and went absolutely batshit broody. No question, no consideration, I had to have a child. If you aren’t convinced to the point that you left a good relationship on the off chance that you might want kids at some point in the next 20 years... you probably made the right decision -start saving for a future that includes a huge disruption to your career pattern (and everything else)

nosotro · 17/07/2020 17:29

Genuinely didn't mean to insult anyone and re-Reading it, you are right.

AnaViaSalamanca · 17/07/2020 17:46

A lot of my friends were quite on the fence, then 35 hit and they thought they would miss out, and now they all have at least one.

I am not sure if I want children. I don't think I can commit to losing my freedom like this, not being able to move, change jobs, sleep late, do whatever I want whenever I want. Secondly, I would rather enjoy my life rather than dealing with diapers and school schedules, and also the real possibility of having a child with special needs is what scares me to no end. In any case I actually don't even like kids...

Sometimes I think it would be nice to have children and grandchildren, but not enough of a drive to take on the massive endeavour.

Meme2019 · 17/07/2020 17:50

I feel like having kids gave my life purpose. My children are my everything. I knew I wanted children however I wasn't particularly bothered if I didn't, my desire to have kids intensified when I met my partner, sometimes meeting the right person makes you see your life in a different way.

Airbender · 17/07/2020 18:01

People don’t want kids because they don’t like them or don’t like being around them. Everything else is really just a lie and smokescreen. But they lie because it is not acceptable to say such a thing. It would upset many many parents around them who are family members and friends. And who wants that kind of trouble? So they lie.

Lottapianos · 17/07/2020 18:02

Ana, I hear you! I have had my intensely broody moments, but ultimately I didnt want the responsibility and the drudgery and the whole package. If you dont even like children, a perfectly valid viewpoint if you ask me, then why would you even consider inflicting parenthood on yourself?! I get it though - the pressure to have children is HUGE. Even if you dont have family members berating you, parenthood is absolutely presented as 'the norm', the best way to find meaning in your life, and something that every woman wants deep down. Resisting those messages is far from easy, especially if you feel ambivalent rather than totally against parenthood. It really does get easier though as you move through your 30s and into your 40s. Hang in there!

wendywoopywoo222 · 17/07/2020 18:02

I Watched my parents nurse and lose my brother through childhood cancer and decided then and there that I wasn't ever going to risk putting myself in the same position. Now in my 50s and no regrets.

wendywoopywoo222 · 17/07/2020 18:06

@Airbender

I love other people's kids, have lots of god children even take them on holiday so there's definatly other reasons people don't want their own kids.

Lottapianos · 17/07/2020 18:09

Wendywoopy, I'm so sorry, that must have been a really harrowing experience for all of you. Thank you for sharing yet another perspective on the decision to remain childfree

AnaViaSalamanca · 17/07/2020 19:59

@Lottapianos you are absolutely right. I think the additional pressure I am feeling (mid-30s now) is that I don't have much in common with female friends as they all have babies anymore - their schedule and concerns are completely different now and it makes me feel isolated and wrong.

I suppose I need to find a community of child free women! Is there such a thing I wonder...

Lottapianos · 17/07/2020 20:40

It's easy to feel like the whole world is having babies, but childfree women are out there, and on here! Totally agree that you need to find your tribe.