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He suddenly doesn’t know if he wants to continue the relationship

43 replies

SunnyRoses · 03/07/2020 16:44

Ok here goes. I’m not sure where to start. My partner and I have been together for 3 years, our relationship is really good, we have fun together, talk for hours, it’s affectionate and passionate, I feel listened to and supported, and loved and accepted for exactly who I am. He gets on great with my kids and is willing to be a part of their lives eg he has on occasion gone more out of his way for them than their own dad does.
We don’t live together because my kids are happy and I’m hesitant to change that but we normally talk and text everyday when not together.
Also, I am very observant and tend to overthink too much, due to my ex cheating on me, and he has never given me any reason to doubt him.

But last Autumn he told me that when we had been dating for around 9 months he had got very very drunk and had sex with a friend of a friend, we have talked about this a lot since and I have asked many questions and he is sure that he doesn’t remember a thing and that he has NEVER wanted to cheat on me. I know that he can ‘perform’ when very drunk. He said he woke up that morning feeling like something wasn’t right, remembering nothing and seeing her sleeping on the sofa. She had apparently come round to ask him to help her with something, he’s very handy and good at diy, can lay floors, plaster a little etc.

Anyway, he had been stressed with work and had started drinking more regularly and it was around this time that I noticed he stopped drinking completely although obviously I didn’t know the reason why. He now tells me it was because of the guilt and he wanted no possibility of something like that ever happening again.

He says a while later she told him that she was pregnant and they both agreed she would have an abortion. He says he never told me because it was a mistake that he hated had happened, he felt terrible and he had never wanted to cheat on me, and hasn’t wanted to in the 3 years since either and because he was scared I would leave him.

He probably wouldn’t have ever told me except last Autumn this woman contacted him again to say she has had the baby. The baby was 10 months at this point. A DNA test has proved that it is his.
He was so sorry when he told me all this and seemed genuine and because our relationship had been so good up till that point I decided to stay together and try to get past all this.

So since then it’s been tough. He has been nothing but understanding towards my feelings and takes full responsibility, he has always said our relationship was perfect, there was nothing missing, it’s not in any way my fault. It’s all him and his mistake. When I’ve had my doubts he has been sure that we can get through this.
Even last week he was saying this. But yesterday he suddenly said that he’s not sure we can get through it and maybe it’s too much. When I asked him if he wanted us to still be together he said he doesn’t know, when I asked why the sudden change he said he doesn’t know, when I asked him if he was lying when he said he was sure about us even just last week he said yes, it’s honestly how he felt.
He says he knows he loves me, that he still desires me and wants us to be together. And that if we were to split up it’s not because he doesn’t love me and he would want to stay friends. He knows I am not open to that option though.

In case it’s relevant, he was made redundant in the pandemic, he is very hard working and the previous two times he has been unemployed (once due to moving area) he has seemed a bit “meh” about life and seems lost.

I’m not sure what to do, wait and see if this is a temporary feeling? And if so, how long? Or tell him we should have some space from each other since he’s not sure what he wants? In this mood he’s unlikely to do any deep thinking though.
And why might he possibly want to break up but keep me in his life as friends? That makes no sense to me.
He knows fwb is not an option so it’s not that and it’s definitely not because his desire is gone, he says he still loves me too so I’m just confused in the situation.
I am sure someone is going to suggest it but I am sure there is no other woman involved and 100% that there’s nothing going on with the baby’s mum.

OP posts:
bloodywhitecat · 03/07/2020 16:48

Honestly? I'd walk away. I think he's been stringing you along and now wants out.

Dullardmullard · 03/07/2020 16:54

Should of dumped him last autumn for cheating. You’ve already been there why do it again?

SunnyRoses · 03/07/2020 16:54

@bloodywhitecat he’s not afraid to say he wants out though, I know him well enough to know that.

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SandyY2K · 03/07/2020 16:57

A man having a child while in a relationship with me would automatically be a dealbreaker, so I certainly wouldn't be hanging around for him to figure out his feelings.

Even his doubt about your relationship.....after everything he's done would be the push I needed to call it a day.

I would be firm in telling him it's over and I wouldn't look back for a minute.

He should be thanking his lucky stars you gave him the time of day after the ONS... then finding out about the baby.

SunnyRoses · 03/07/2020 17:02

I know, I think the problem is that I do genuinely feel happy in the relationship, despite the obvious issue’s, so being single again doesn’t seem like an obviously better option.

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KittyHawke80 · 03/07/2020 17:05

He's gone, OP. He's in the wind. He's checked-out and you're still clinging on. And, btw, I wouldn't be at all sure there's no-one else, babaymama or no.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 03/07/2020 17:08

Honestly? You need to raise your standards. A lot. And improve your self-respect. Come on, don't you think you deserve better than these dreadful lines he's coming out with?

He's told you by both his words and actions that he's not that into you really, but you're choosing to ignore it. My bet is that he's hoping YOU make the decision to split so he can make himself feel he's not the bad guy. But while you're letting the relationship continue he's having his cake and eating it. There WILL be cake somewhere, I bet. My guess is that he's playing you a bit and been taking advantage of your insecurity from being cheated on in the past. The fun has worn off for him now and he doesn't want to carry on. LISTEN to him finally.

namechange12a · 03/07/2020 17:10

OP you need to finish the relationship. Have you had an STD test as he had drunken, unprotected sex.

He's really not that into you OP. He probably only told you because she was pregnant and the thought you would find out. You have no idea if this is the first time he's cheated or not.

He cheated, has had a baby with another woman and now isn't sure if he wants to be with you and you're undecided about what to do?

You seem to have a pattern of getting into relationships with untrustworthy men with commitment problems, have you thought about therapy in order to work on that?

Either or, gather your self respect and tell him to leave.

TenShortStories · 03/07/2020 17:12

Keep in mind that you wouldn't be choosing to be single because it's the 'better option', but because a relationship with a cheat who isn't sure about you just isn't good enough.

I've made the mistake of saying with someone because the immediate reality of single life was less appealing than staying, but nothing good comes of that. Look at where you'd like to be this time next year and put steps into place now to make that possible, however uncomfortable they are.

LemonTT · 03/07/2020 17:13

I’m not one for jumping to conclusions or filling in the blanks for posters and I definitely don’t project my own experiences. But come on OP, the story he told you is complete cock and bull.

First of all, that much detail has lying all over it. Everything sounded like a lie. And even before I got there I knew that he only told you because he was about to be exposed. Maybe you know that and are ok with it. But it will not be the full story.

The latest revelation is also not the full story. It’s a play to lay the ground for something. I don’t know what it is but he does and he isn’t telling you. He won’t tell you until it’s gets too close not to. Then you will be left high and dry again.

That this man is bringing you trouble and unhappiness is not in doubt. This will continue and is enough reason to get rid.

But it you want to know the truth, then talk to the woman who had his child after an alleged ONS. You do know how unlikely this? How unlikely it is that she agreed to an abortion and then hid the pregnancy. Even though she’s close enough to ask for DIY help.

Crystalspider · 03/07/2020 17:19

OMG I am actually more shocked that you still want him after finding that out.
I very much doubt that was a one off ONS the chances of falling pregnant is low (yes there will be some, but not many) maybe theres another on the way and he's leaving for her or even someone else.
He is not trust worthy in the slightest and i'm sorry this happened to you, if you get back with him then you can't blame anyone but yourself when he cheats again.

HollowTalk · 03/07/2020 17:19

Blimey, your boundaries are a bit skewed.

First he has the fling and you totally buy that he didn't realise what he was doing. I'm not impressed with the fact he can perform when absolutely drunk - I'd rather have a man who was aware of what he was doing. What if she'd said he'd raped her?

Then he finds out she's pregnant. He obviously didn't bother to check how the abortion went. He didn't even speak to their mutual friend to see whether she was okay.

Now she's kept the baby. Does he contribute towards the baby's care now? Does he want to play a part in the baby's life? He's a decent guy, you say - why wouldn't this friend of a friend want him to know about the baby earlier?

Do you really want this?

SandyY2K · 03/07/2020 17:20

For me it doesn't matter if there's another woman or not. What he's done is enough to leave a stain on the relationship that cannot be removed.

needhandhold · 03/07/2020 17:26

Wow. He’s lied and kept hidden a baby!! What are you doing OP?! He’s seeing this other woman obviously and he’s telling you a load of rubbish. Get rid and stop being so gullible! He was so drunk, accidental pregnancy, secret abortion that didn’t happen and now a 10 month old baby suddenly appears.. is he a Hollywood superstar? This amount of stuff doesn’t just happen to a normal person. Have you spoken to this other woman to confirm? If he’s genuine then he will have no problem you speaking and confirming his story? Right?

FlaskMaster · 03/07/2020 17:28

It's only a 3 year relationship and in that time he's had a secret baby with someone else! Obviously you want to believe it was one single time, a total drunken accident that just happened to get her pregnant that time, and he doesn't even remember it, and they only continued secretly talking long enough to agree an abortion, and he wasn't honest abou tit all during that while period because he was thinking of you instead of himself, and bla bla bla. He's full of shit. So full of shit, about all of it. He's a cheat. He cheated recklessly enough to get someone pregnant and then hid it from you. He's been taking you for an absolute mug for almost the whole of your relationship.

Ditch him. You have no ties, no kids, no mortgage together. Just fuck him off. Even he can barely bring himself to mug you off to this degree much longer, or he just can't be arsed to do the loving partner act now it's patently fucking obvious it's not genuine. Wake up and smell the coffee, tell him to get to fuck. And get an STD test.

SandyY2K · 03/07/2020 17:31

Does he see the baby?
Does his family know about the child?

For me I would feel i don't want to explain the existence of this child to my DC...and if I don't tell them...then it's a secret that DP of 3 years had a child during our relationship.

If you got pregnant after a ONS do you think he'd be with you? He only told you because she had the baby.

How can you truly know if it was only the once? Sods law that the one time he gets drunk...he has unprotected sex with a woman who is ovulating.

He tells the story like he was taken advantage of with his claims of memory loss.

How does it go from a friend of a friend (putting distance between the relationship ) coming over to ask for help with DIY...(when most ppl would text or call) to him getting very drunk and seeing her on the sofa the next day?

I'm sorry...but this just doesn't add up.

SunnyRoses · 03/07/2020 17:31

@LemonTT I have spoken to her.

People ask him to do all kinds of stuff because he and his friends are good at it.

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ukgift2016 · 03/07/2020 17:32

So he cheated on you, had a baby with another woman, told you he doesn't want to be with you anymore and you are desperate to keep this relationship going?

Walk over much?

RLEOM · 03/07/2020 17:34

All I'm reading are excuses for his shitty behaviour. You'll be well rid.

FlaskMaster · 03/07/2020 17:35

I have some friends of friends that are great at DIY, I've never got them drunk and fucked them without contraception and then had a baby with them in secret. But, you know, maybe they're not that good at DIY. The good at DIY thing is not the bit of the story that's the problem op. It's literally every fucking thing else he's ever said or done.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 03/07/2020 17:36

Yeah, i'm buggered if I can see where the appeal is, OP? Can you enlighten us? You basically want someone who doesn't want you, and tells you as such. Not exactly the epitome of romance, is it?

FlaskMaster · 03/07/2020 17:37

Also, you don't sleep on the sofa after you fuck someone. Especially if you're drunk. He's minimising here to the Nth degree. And you're just nodding along to the most fucking ridiculous bullshit.

Babymamamama · 03/07/2020 17:39

Anyone who gets so drunk they impregnate someone without knowing anything about whilst in a relationship with someone else would be a NO from me. Move on OP.

AllsortsofAwkward · 03/07/2020 17:42

This sounds all too Jermery Kyle raise the bar. Hes a liar and a cheat.

LemonTT · 03/07/2020 17:59

Well it looks like you are not looking for advice or for the truth. What you want is a reason or pretext to stay with him, no matter how flimsy. Even though he has Checked out, kept his room key and failed to pay his bill.

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