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Husband blaming everything on me

83 replies

5fha · 01/07/2020 16:41

Hi all, I've found myself in quite a mess and posting on here in the hope of reading some advice and/or moral support. I'm confused and very hurts.

I'm in a 15 year relationship (married for five) and it's been pretty good overall. I've loved being in a relationship, and he makes me happy the majority of the time.

Back in January my husband, who's usually incredibly close to his family, suddenly decided they annoyed him and that they were too demanding of his time (they all live about an hour away and ask to see us a couple of times a month, so not excessive). He also decided he was depressed at work and had no enthusiasm for his job anymore. I asked if he was depressed, he said no. I asked if he was happy in the marriage, he said yes, very happy. Anyway, this went on for months, with his family getting increasingly upset by him not wanting to visit or even talk to them once lockdown started. I felt stuck in the middle as I also wasn't entirely sure what was going on due to my SO's lack of communication.

This goes on until earlier this month when his brother decides to do an intervention and randomly pitch up at the house demanding answers as to why the family are being shunned. So they both sit in the back garden to talk while I sit upstairs, thinking this would be a good way to give them privacy and allow them to talk it out. A couple of hours later, his brother leaves and my SO comes into the house all smiles. He says it's all sorted and he feels massive relief. Awesome! I think. All that weirdness is now over.

Except it's not, as he then tells me that we need to sit down and talk. He then commences to tell me that he's been unhappy for 'ages' and the reason is me. I ask him what is it I've done exactly that's made depressed but all he says is "it's just the way you are". All this despite the fact he'd spent the last few months telling me I'm the best thing in his life, his rock, the only person he wants to see. He'd even said he wishes everyone else would leave alone so he could spend forever with just me! It made no sense. I asked what we do now, do we split up? But he said he doesn't want to as he respects his vows. I just need to change a few things about myself - what these few things are he couldn't say, and I'm still to this day none the wiser. I spent ages crying, but he got irritated with me saying that I should be happy for him as he now has all the family stuff sorted.

This was a couple of weeks back and he's all happy and being extra gushy with his family. He's also gone back saying I'm amazing and he's lucky to have me. I'm utterly fed up and feeling worse as time goes on. The way I see it, he was genuinely pissed off with his family for whatever reason but decided it's easier to throw me under the bus than be honest with them. But he sticks to the story that it was all caused by me stressing him out. And now refuses to talk about it at all.

Is this worth splitting over? I thought we were happy and very much in love. I know the obvious thing to do is to discuss it over, but as mentioned, he won't and it's eating me up and makes me feel worthless. Part of me says to go on as normal and hope this never happens again. The other says if he can do this then he doesn't truly love me. Sigh...

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averythinline · 01/07/2020 18:12

I wouldnt contact his family - you are unlikely to get anything out of him..
Honestly if he wont do counselling , maybe organise some for yourself it soudns like a complete headfuck either way - I would push him and if he sods of to his parents then dont let him back...
it sounds like its over really.....horrible way to treat you ....

Skyla2005 · 01/07/2020 18:13

He sounds like his all over the place. I think there’s a lot more to this than his telling you. If it was me I would be doing some digging to find out what really happened with his family and I will get slated for this but I’d be looking at his phone aswell to see what I could find out

notalwaysalondoner · 01/07/2020 18:15

This sounds like really, really bizarre behaviour. He sounds a bit unstable to be honest - to go from being very close to your family to refusing to talk to them for no (known) reason, then flipping with no reason to blaming you for everything, it’s not normal. Sounds like maybe he’s depressed and desperately looking for something to blame it on/fix so he can fix that then he’ll feel better. It was his family, now it’s you.

I would definitely talk to his family - they’ve just had months of him being all weird and you can tell them he said it was them for months, now it’s you. They should understand as literally until a few days ago he was telling them and you that he had a problem with them, so I don’t imagine they’d suddenly just lap up a story about you being the problem? Unless he’s told them you wouldn’t let him talk to them, but that sounds far fetched considering you’ve known them and seen them regularly for 15 years.

He needs to engage with you on this - I would consider moving out temporarily/him moving out to try and make him realise he can’t say that you are the problem (with no details) then carry on having a wife/lover/best friend/cleaner/cook etc in the house.

Poor you. It’s so inexplicable. I hope he opens up or you can persuade him to do counselling as he sounds pretty messed up.

5fha · 01/07/2020 18:17

First of all, thank you so much for taking the time to read my waffly posts and for all your replies. I really appreciate it. I'm reading through and find myself agreeing and also feeling sad but also hopeful. It's good to see that I'm not overreacting, that I'm right in thinking this is not at all normal. And sad because it's evident that the relationship is really damaged because of this. I'll be honest: despite everything I do love him and the thought of leaving makes me so sad and scared (pathetic, hey?) But I also know that if I walked away (or more like told him to live with one of his siblings/parents) I'd have a massive weight off my shoulders. I'd be terrified to go alone (I'm crap with life admin, for example!) and I'd miss him terribly, but the anxiety would be gone.

I'd like to think this was a stupid blip on his part, but the man is 41. Doesn't look like he'll grow out of pulling weird shit like this :( I highly doubt he's cheating as he's always around and open with who he texts etc. Plus rubbish with women in general (I'm was his first girlfriend). I think he's just a coward when it comes to confronting anyone but me.

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GeorgiaGirl52 · 01/07/2020 18:17

What age is he? When men reach the 40-45 age bracket they tend to go slightly bonkers - leaving wife for a 20-year-old, taking up skydiving, buying a sports car, etc. Would suggest a physical for him and possibly counseling for both of you before you split up.

frazzledasarock · 01/07/2020 18:18

If my DP told his family i depressed him and then told me I was toxic and was making him miserable. I’d leave him.

So now his family love him. He loves them and you’re being cold shouldered because he used you to convince them you had forced him away from his family.

Do you have children?

If not go see a solicitor and get the he’ll away from him he’s very clearly unbalanced in some way. And using you as a scapegoat.

BlessYourCottonSocks · 01/07/2020 18:28

I'm really sorry, OP, but that would be the end of the marriage for me.

I'd be sitting him down for a straight talk and telling him You telling me that I am toxic and that it's all my fault has seriously damaged our relationship. It's no longer all about you - this is about me and how I feel, and I now no longer feel the same about you. Your behaviour has now caused major issues in our marriage and I don't honestly think this can be repaired. I think you need to understand I'm considering divorce as the only option.

And I would then leave him to consider this. He does need to face up to the fact that he's fucked up his marriage with his behaviour.
Meanwhile I'd be looking into the practicalities of separation.

endofthelinefinally · 01/07/2020 18:32

I agree with pp. It sounds like the beginning of the script.
Could there be another woman that he hasn't been able to see during lock down?

Sarahandco · 01/07/2020 18:36

The problem is that his family may never forgive/trust you after what he has said to them - there may be no way back from that.

I would send him to stay with his family, tell him you need some time to think. Then if he is difficult with them, they will probably realise that it is not "you" - the reality is that it is probably not "you"or "them", he may be depressed. But they will see that it is not you and if you do want your marriage to continue - they will trust you again, if they see for themselves that the problem is something other that you.

KarenW · 01/07/2020 18:36

He sounds like he can't take responsibility for his fall out with his family and has now blamed you. I think he is spineless and has disregarded your feelings in all of this. You deserve so much better 😥💐💐

butterpuffed · 01/07/2020 18:38

As he's seemed okay in previous years , please don't be too quick to think it's the end of your marriage.

His change in behaviour is very odd , hopefully you can persuade him to see his GP , he doesn't sound like a well man.

SusieOwl4 · 01/07/2020 18:39

If I was you I would be very confused as well .
I also get the feeling there is something else going on .

Just spell it out to him . You have had months of him saying his family are causing all his problems . Months where he had every opportunity to explain the problems to you . And now all of a sudden he has turned on a sixpence and you are the problem ? I think you say it shows a lack of respect and in every way he has been making you both live a lie ? Unless he comes clean then you will have to consider a split because the damage has been done and he has not valued your feelings in this at all . Somewhere a long the line he has been telling lies . And you want to know the truth.

KarenW · 01/07/2020 18:39

I'm hoping that there isn't someone else, but it's ringing alarm bells .this way his family won't need to keep his affair secret as they won't see you.

bitofasleuth · 01/07/2020 18:44

@BlessYourCottonSocks

I'm really sorry, OP, but that would be the end of the marriage for me.

I'd be sitting him down for a straight talk and telling him You telling me that I am toxic and that it's all my fault has seriously damaged our relationship. It's no longer all about you - this is about me and how I feel, and I now no longer feel the same about you. Your behaviour has now caused major issues in our marriage and I don't honestly think this can be repaired. I think you need to understand I'm considering divorce as the only option.

And I would then leave him to consider this. He does need to face up to the fact that he's fucked up his marriage with his behaviour.
Meanwhile I'd be looking into the practicalities of separation.

^ This is it really.

You need to tell him straight.

5fha · 01/07/2020 18:55

I do like the idea of sending him back to his family in many ways. I've thought about it over the past few days too, for the same reasons as stated above: after the initial euphoria of their boy/brother being with them all the time (they all live close to each other - it's just us that live further away), they may start to see that he's got some deeper issues that need working on (or it'll turn out that I really was the issue all along for whatever reason and they can then live happily ever after). He did stay with his sister for a couple of weeks a few years back after we had an argument. He stormed out but it wasn't long until he said he couldn't live without me, that being apart made him miserable, that being away from me made him realise what we had was special, etc. So maybe going away will give him some sort of reboot where he may realise he can't treat me the way he has (maybe...)

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Wyntersdiary · 01/07/2020 18:56

This sounds really wierd :S but he also sounds a bit bonkers i mean how can he treat you like that? its pure disrespectful.

I woud leave. there is no point wasting time on someone who doesnt even know what he is feeling. no one ditched the family because they are depressed in there relationship :S

4amWitchingHour · 01/07/2020 18:56

I think he's depressed and he's casting about trying to find a reason - first it was job, then it was family, then you... He needs help. I don't think he's cheating - he sounds like he's a mental health mess and in a selfish little pit. I'm sorry you're having to deal with this.

It's absolutely awful that he won't agree to couples counselling. I think you need to insist on a direction or start to issue ultimatums - he's taking you for granted and taking you for a ride, and it doesn't sound like he's going to seek help unless he has no other options.

ComeOnBabyPopMyBubble · 01/07/2020 18:59

Whatever the reason what you need to remember is that you are not his emotional punching bag, nor can you continue getting whiplashed by his hot and cold routines.

Mintlegs · 01/07/2020 19:00

This must be painful and stressful for you but I would really think carefully about this relationship. Would you even dream of doing this type of thing to him or someone else? It’s all very strange and he’s putting the blame on him

Mintlegs · 01/07/2020 19:00

On you

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 01/07/2020 19:12

Is this worth splitting over?

I'd say yes.

He wants you to change things about the "way you are" but won't even tell you what. I'd tell him to fuck off. Sorry OP. He sounds awful. Very weird.

AreYouLocal2 · 01/07/2020 20:08

It seems there's a lot of enmeshment in his family relationship, and also in your relationship with him. Has anything about you changed? Have you started a new job, hobby, lost weight, etc?

My ex loved it when I was quiet and 'submissive' (his words). Over the years my confidence grew, and he couldn't stand it! He hated to see me get along with others and made attempts to sabotage my friendships. It's only after counselling that I have realised he's a covert narcissist.

Nanny0gg · 01/07/2020 20:09

@BlessYourCottonSocks

I'm really sorry, OP, but that would be the end of the marriage for me.

I'd be sitting him down for a straight talk and telling him You telling me that I am toxic and that it's all my fault has seriously damaged our relationship. It's no longer all about you - this is about me and how I feel, and I now no longer feel the same about you. Your behaviour has now caused major issues in our marriage and I don't honestly think this can be repaired. I think you need to understand I'm considering divorce as the only option.

And I would then leave him to consider this. He does need to face up to the fact that he's fucked up his marriage with his behaviour.
Meanwhile I'd be looking into the practicalities of separation.

^^This
Nanny0gg · 01/07/2020 20:17

And it also looks like he has a nasty habit of running away if the going gets a bit tough...

DarkHelmet · 01/07/2020 20:23

My exh used to say things like 'it's just who you are' and when pressed he couldn't come up with any specific examples, when asked what I could do to change he'd say 'if you don't know I'm not going to tell you, figure it out yourself.' and so is then say how can I make it right if I don't know what's wrong?? It was a great way to mess with my head and have me tying myself in knots to get it 'right' whilst there was actually nothing wrong with me at all because a couple of weeks later I'd be perfect or amazing or whatever.

And then the cycle repeated.

I'm sorry OP this sounds like mind games to me.

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