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I think I’m seeing red (flags)....

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ThoseBootsAreMadeForWalking · 17/06/2020 21:46

Hi everyone,
NC for this post. I need a (gentle please) sanity check in those weird lockdown times.
Sorry it’s a novel.

I have been talking to a guy for about 2 months. Getting along great, genuinely and surprisingly a lot in common. He is separated from his long term partner for over a year, in (very....) good terms.
Probably due to the lockdown we spent more time chatting, texting, speaking etc before meeting than we would have in normal circumstances. We agreed to meet after lockdown was lifted initially when back at work/office for lunch.

We eventually went for a walk in the park the week we became allowed to have social distance walk with friends and have done so 2/3 times a week since. It was actually nice because taking away the dating/restaurant/physical contact aspect we got to know each other quite well.

A few things niggle me and I can’t work out if it’s the current context or if his ex is actually an ex before taking it further with him:

  • he has his kids every weekend (explanation is the ex home schools them all week at the moment so he has them every weekend to give her a break)
  • He works long hours (type of work that carried on during lockdown) and goes home late so I realised we haven’t actually spoken on the phone after he gets home. Again, he does finish late so could be or not?
  • he goes very quiet at the weekend (he has the kids, it’s hectic - fine). But realised a pattern these past couple of weeks... he picks up DCs early Saturday and doesn’t mention when drops them off on Sundays. Didn’t pay too much attention to it at first but then I wonder why not call me for a chat on Sunday night
  • lots of selfies from his room at bed time (alone in bed and lots of mess - boys room) - definitely not a partnered up man with a woman around
  • we started to talk about spending time alone and I explained that no one comes to my house and meet DCs until relationship is solid and he is here to stay which he didn’t seem phased by. I suggested twice coming to visit him on a Friday evening at some point he changed the subject faster than you can say ‘how many sugar in your tea...’. He eventually said he has his kids from Friday night mostly (since i started speaking to him he said Saturday morning)
  • had a bit of a domestic situation a few weeks ago and he was very supportive. It was quite late but I was rushed and he was home so asked to call him to be handsfree instead of texting. Suddenly he had a migraine and went to bed.
  • he was driving back from work really late one night this week and was very tired so we were sending each other voice messages to make sure he wasn’t falling asleep at the wheel. All of a sudden, he started to be very pushy about videocalling to keep him company. I was in bed with no make up and said no. At that point, I had a red flag flashing in my head and insisted that I would videocall him for 5 minutes when he gets home to make sure he was ok. He must have been aback as I’m usually laidback and all of a sudden was so tired that ‘his speech was slurred’! He texted me when he got home and carried on texting lovely things for over half an hour when I ignored his messages was he not about to suddenly pass out?
  • He commented his ex made his life a misery because she was jealous, constantly accusing him of cheating. He confessed to a one month after years ago nothing else since (that’s was started my suspicions then again, he didn’t have to tell me. His body language when he told me was remorseful, sad and ashamed. He said he wanted answer all my questions honestly.
  • Finally he tries really hard to shift me off whatsapp towards normal texts especially when he is home.


If you made it this far, what do you think?
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ThoseBootsAreMadeForWalking · 17/06/2020 22:42

I have no idea what the bit about the video calling means and how to interpret that, but quite frankly it doesn’t matter and there is no point wasting your time trying to analyse it.

@Nestofvipers
Thank you!
The bit about the videocalling was me trying to say: if you really want to videocall do it from home when you’re not driving to see if he would or make up an excuse to dodge out of it (which he did) x

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WaitingForTheTurn79 · 17/06/2020 22:43

The bit about video calling in the car, sorry but was that when he was driving, I don't get that bit either .

The moving from WhatsApp to texting is weird to me , don't people usually stick to one or the other?
I think this shows he doesn't want someone to see his last seen , it doesn't mean he's living with that person though.

The suddenly having the kids from Friday and not Saturday is another big red flag ....

The "crazy ex" and did you mean one month affair?... These aren't great tbh .

I think for the length and type of relationship you are in there is a lot of question marks over this man.

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Mumto1andthetinybun · 17/06/2020 22:44

Have you tried Facebook searching him?

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ThoseBootsAreMadeForWalking · 17/06/2020 22:47

@Darkestseasonofall
He does doesn’t he :(
I did try googling him but his name and surname are so common I haven’t really given me any info. He uses FB for work only and I found him and very little on there, no photo/family or anything personal.

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TheMurk · 17/06/2020 22:48

If it’s this hard at the start and you haven’t even snogged yet, how hard will it be 2, 5, 10 years down the line when the honeymoon stuff has worn off?

Men who are interested are present and available. It’s that simple.

Drop him.

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ThoseBootsAreMadeForWalking · 17/06/2020 22:51

@WaitingForTheTurn79

Thank you you summarise most of my concerns.

If I am honest, I didn’t spot any red flag until he told me about the one month affair and because he was not trying to hide it, minimise or justify it, I didn’t want to discard him just for that. Maybe this made me on high alert fof every single detail since.

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Justmuddlingalong · 17/06/2020 22:53

So you've never just phoned him for a chat in the evening, or without messaging first?

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ThoseBootsAreMadeForWalking · 17/06/2020 22:58

@Justmuddlingalong
Actually no. I guess he is not my partner so I would still text and ask if he is free to talk. He works a lot as I do, could have fallen asleep etc

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Seaweed42 · 17/06/2020 23:00

Not sure I understand this bit re his kids "so he has them every weekend to give her a break.
Is that the way he phrased it? He has phrased it to position himself as a great guy doing the Ex a favour by having his own kids for the weekend. He could have said 'I really love my kids and I miss them so much I'd gladly have them every weekend this separation has been so hard on me'.
How far away does he live from his Ex. How far away does he live from you? Did he leave her because she kept accusing him of cheating. Or did she leave him because he did cheat? Not sure I really understand that bit.

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Justmuddlingalong · 17/06/2020 23:01

Sorry, but too many things aren't adding up. Look back on it as a distraction during lockdown and throw him back.

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VanGoghsDog · 17/06/2020 23:11

I didn’t spot any red flag until he told me about the one month affair and because he was not trying to hide it, minimise or justify it, I didn’t want to discard him just for that

Some people have a great skill of announcing, sadly, one minor transgression, usually for which they feel great regret and have learned, to make you feel they are "opening up" to you and trusting you.

In fact, they are just testing the water to see what they can get away with.

In years to come, if you stayed with him, you would find out he was actually a serial cheater, but by then you would be committed and want to ignore his past.

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Minniee · 17/06/2020 23:15

Nah.

He's married.

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ThoseBootsAreMadeForWalking · 17/06/2020 23:16

@Seaweed42
About having his kids, I asked him why he had them every weekend and if he had a set agreement in place. He is thrilled to have them every weekend but apparently it’s the ex who wants / needs a break.
Regarding their separation, she took him back after the affair years ago but was always (understandably) paranoid after that which created constant arguments and drove them apart. She eventually suggested they split up and he didnt fight it.
I am well aware I only have his version of events....

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ThoseBootsAreMadeForWalking · 17/06/2020 23:19

@VanGoghsDog
It’s exactly why I feel and this has already started making me suspicious.
I agree on testing the water and potential serial cheater bits.

Sigh

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User56781234 · 17/06/2020 23:19

Trust your gut instinct. Something, somewhere is very wrong if you have a red flag flashing in your head. Do not over ride this even if you cannot understand it but listen to your internal warning system.

Beyond that, surely two months into a new relationship, you should be in the happy honeymoon period - not tearing your hair out because you can't make sense of someone's behaviour.

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Justmuddlingalong · 17/06/2020 23:22

Don't be disheartened. Just think very carefully about investing any more of your time and emotions on him.

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SavageBeauty73 · 17/06/2020 23:24

He sounds still married.

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ThoseBootsAreMadeForWalking · 17/06/2020 23:26

@Justmuddlingalong
Thank you x

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Lifeisconfusing · 17/06/2020 23:28

Do you know where he lives? Could you do some digging check out the ex on fb etc? I love abit of investigation 🤪.

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LorenzoVonMatterhorn · 17/06/2020 23:30

I have been talking to a guy for about 2 months

If youre this many concerns at this stage, end it.

But he 100% sounds like be has a wife at home.

Or video call him tomorrow evening when he Is usually home. See if he answers.

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billy1966 · 17/06/2020 23:30

You sound like you are being played and that he is trying to manage you.

Getting you off WhatsAp to messaging is to hide his online status.

OP, listen to your gut, it's warning you.

Bin him.
Flowers

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Opentooffers · 17/06/2020 23:32

It's the asking for a video call whilst driving, was he really at the wheel because surely you can't do both at the same time? You're reticence I'd guess is because you were in bed and if he knew that he was quite possibly hinting at wanting to see more than your face so makeup would not have mattered. Give up on this one, even if his story is true ( unlikely) between having kids all weekend and working all hours during the week, how are you ever going to get together as he'd have no time?

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ThoseBootsAreMadeForWalking · 17/06/2020 23:34

@Lifeisconfusing
Haha sometimes you have to don’t you!
I found him on FB and there’s very little personal info. I found her business oage on FB but not much on there either.

I found the family home address but no evidence as to whether he does or doesn’t live there anymore.

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Lifeisconfusing · 17/06/2020 23:41

I think it’s good you came on here to jot down your thoughts!! it’s fantastic that you’ve discovered red flags before getting too involved.

Too many woman rush in and involve children and live in denial for love and attention your much better then that. Keep an eye on him and the red flags and once you have enough suspicion I would just confront him. Trust your instincts you sound very in tune with them. Flowers

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ThoseBootsAreMadeForWalking · 17/06/2020 23:43

@LorenzoVonMatterhorn
This is it, he has never been home in the evenings at a decent hour unless he was with me earlier in the evening walking in the park....

I haven’t tried weekends because if the story is true, I don’t want to make it uncomfortable for his DCs.

Everytime he called even quickly in the evenings come to think of it was on his long drive home. The online I was the one asking to call knowing he was home was when he came up with the migraine.

Not good.....

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