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AFFAIR - help, advice needed please!

62 replies

Ttf313300 · 06/05/2020 03:38

Hi, This is my first time posting, and I feel pretty nervous about it.
At the end of December I caught my OH of 3 years cheating. I do his accounts, and caught the same number coming up over & over again on phone bill. About 20-25 calls a day. 2-3 hours. Confronted him, he said they were just speaking and were friends from years ago. (Found out later on that he was lying about that, it was actually a girl he had been sleeping with before me).
3 weeks he kept telling me that nothing more had happened, but I didnt believe him. So I went to the girl and confronted her (who run conveniently) and eventually got the truth. They had been having an affair for 2 & a half years out of our 3 year 'relationship'. The first year it was friends, and for the second year it turned sexual. She was spiteful and told me way more than what I'd asked or needed to hear. Safe to say I kicked him out for the next two months.
We have a 2 year old child together, and I have a 6 year old from a previous relationship, who also classes him as dad.
From a traumatic birth with my son, to him being seriously sick after he was born for the first year of his life. I didnt sleep for more than an hour or two a night for 14 months. I had a couple of traumatic events happen to me in that space of time, that sent my world crashing.
Knowing when I was pregnant, and when all this was happening, he was having an affair with someone else makes me feel sick. I knew after my son was born, I kept asking and asking him if there was someone else because I had a horrible gut feeling. I kept telling him to leave because his attitude and the way he acted towards me was making me feel so unhappy and lonely and I could tell he didnt want me or love me anymore. So I'd tell him to go and be happy. But he always begged to come back. And then come back and continued his affair.
The most horrible thing about all of this? I love him still. Hes lied to me for nearly all of our time together, hes made me feel stupid, hes cheated and jeopardized our family.
Now this hatred has worn off, I'm so confused.
We have been isolating together (agreed it was easier for kids). Weve been getting along really well, actually communicating. Hes been making a real effort to come home from work and spend time with the kids. Hes looking after us. And I can honestly say for the first time since our son was born, we are actually friends. This is all I ever asked him for for the past 2 years!
The middle of January I found out, and since then hes begged to come back (I needed a 2 month breather - probably.would have been longer if this lockdown didnt happen) and hes been the person he used to be.
We had a lot happen in the beginning of our relationship and everything moved so quickly before both of us could catch our breath & hey to know each other properly.
What I am trying to ask I suppose, is there actually a way back from affairs of this calibre? Do people actually move on from them & possibly have a better relationship after? Am I completely stupid for still loving him & thinking there could possibly be a way back for our family?
I know I sound so dumb and probably like an idiot. But I've been through so much in my life and when I met him, I thought I'd found the one and I felt happier than I'd ever been. My daughters father (has no contact - he was a violent man towards me & I kicked him out 5 months after she was born as I wasnt bringing my child up around that) is non existent. She so desperately wanted a dad and when she met my.OH it just clicked for her, she loved him straight away. The past 4 months it's like she has her dad back again, the kids are happy. I was on my own for nearly 3 years after I kicked DD's father out.
Am I being so stupid thinking about giving it a chance again & starting fresh? I want my kids to have a family. I've started to want him all over again. Dont get me wrong, it still tortures me what hes done and I cannot trust him as far as I can throw him.
But being friends with him again finally, has made me want him again.
Help please Confused

OP posts:
Ttf313300 · 06/05/2020 09:22

@Puds11
No that doesn't sound harsh at all, your completely right in what your saying.
You can never tell how committed someone is for a long time. Its easy for him to be committed for 4 months.
I dont see it so much as wasting my time. Me & the kids have found a house to move into a fresh start as soon as it's safe with this lockdown to do so. I've started focusing on myself & my goals and what I want out of life. And that's the one positive to come out of this whole situation. That I need to learn to focus on myself some more & really put some time into me.
As for the situation with him, I'm taking every day as it comes. Riding the rollercoaster of emotions that inevitably comes when something like this happens. I'm not making any snap decisions.
Just focusing on refreshing life & seeing where it takes me.

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reallywhereisthebar · 06/05/2020 09:26

OP, he's gonna do it again. Bear that in mind when you're making your decision. X

ISpeakJive · 06/05/2020 09:30

Can I just ask, while you’re isolating together are you still sleeping with him?

Dontletitbeyou · 06/05/2020 09:30

My life experiences have shown me that no , people can’t change. I’m sure there are the odd one or two who do , but as far as I’m concerned generally they don’t . Liars don’t stop lying , cheaters always cheat .
You’ve fallen back into the habit of having him around and now all your anger and hurt has subsided you’re wondering if things can go back to the good old times .

He cheated on you for 2.5 out of 3 years . That’s massive .
it’s great you are now on friendly terms , be happy with that .
You can take him back , but with that level of deception it’s inevitable he'll be back to no good soon as your backs turned .

Ttf313300 · 06/05/2020 09:41

@ISpeakJive
Absolutely not! I'm laid back but I'm not that laidback.

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Ttf313300 · 06/05/2020 09:43

@Dontletitbeyou

The thing is the good times were never this good. This is the confusing thing. Even at the very beginning. I think when your eyes are opened up to what a person is really like, and what they a capable of, it's like a whole different ball game. Like you see right through them.
Obviously know I now him better than I ever did before when I was blindsided

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AgathaX · 06/05/2020 12:59

I think people can change, but I'm not convinced this guy can or will. He allegedly realised that he was doing wrong when he stopped having a sexual relationship with her, yet he still carried on having an emotional affair with her. Devoting his time and thoughts and energy and emotions to this other woman, even though he knew this was wrong. He has done that for virtually all of your relationship. I suspect he is getting along with you now because he has very little choice. Play nicely to get what he wants. Is he really though? Do you know what contact he is having elsewhere, or what contact he intends having once lockdown is over?

You say that your goal would be to co-parent well with him. You can still do that without having a relationship with him. You deserve better than him.

OliviaBenson · 06/05/2020 13:55

The thing is, lockdown is somewhat of a false environment. He can't come and go, mix with others. It's easy to earn your trust now. After lockdown how will you be if he's going out, home late etc. Those doubts and niggles will resurface.

For what it's worth he betrayed you in a huge way at an extremely vulnerable time (pregnancy and childbirth). I couldn't forgive.

See this as a good way to coparent in the future but nothing more.

Imstillskanking · 06/05/2020 23:56

He will cheat on you again. In fact, he will probably cheat on you with the same woman. You will never be able to trust him again, and if you do, he will take advantage of your trust.

He has treated you very badly. Please dont think that just because he isn't violent like your last partner that his behaviour is ok. Raise the bar for yourself! You deserve to be happy.

You say that you want a family for your kids - you are already their family. Kids aren't stupid, before you know it they will be of an age where they understand what's going on. Being raised in a household where dad cheats on mum and lies to them is absolutely not a happy family environment. Do you want your daughter to grow up thinking that this is what a healthy relationship is? How would you feel if you daughter was in this situation in 20 years time. Would you be telling her that it's better than being abused and she should just put up with it?

Sorry if I sound harsh, it just sounds like, deep down, you came on here looking for the kick up the arse which you need right now. I hope everything works out well for you x

Ryah1 · 07/05/2020 00:00

Just take each day as it comes and see how you feel. There is no need to make any major decisions one way or the other.
Hope whatever you decide to do works for you and your kids.

AllsortsofAwkward · 07/05/2020 00:06

This was a full blown relationship op, at a time when you were in you're honeymoon period. It sounds as if you got pregnant without knowing who he really is and he was leading a double life. Hes now shown who he is. Hes being all nice because its lockdown he cannot continue his affair.

Viviennemary · 07/05/2020 00:12

Under the circumstances you describe, cheating for nearly all the time you were together would be a deal breaker for a lot of people. Only you can decide whether you can put it behind you. From what you've said though I think it's unlikely he'll remain faithful.

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