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Bare with me as this is quite long.......but did he or didnt he?

77 replies

Danroncody · 20/04/2020 01:53

I'll keep this as short as I possibly can,anyone who got to the end......thank you for taking the time to read.
A few months ago my partner went to sweden with a running group. Things seemed off......normally hes someone who phones all the time and checks in but I only heard from him twice. When he came back he was constantly messaging another woman,I explained I wasnt comfortable with it and to respect how I felt,all well and good until he found another way to contact her. Deleted messages later and me going crazy I finally had enough! I contacted her husband who told me they had split weeks ago because of the same thing.......time went in and me being a prat I stayed with him,now as mad as this seems nothing sexual actually happened between them,it was more of an emotional affair. I explained after everything that I needed time to heal and not to put me in that same situation.........we were getting on great!
Then......just over a month ago,he told me that a guy from the running club he goes too asked him to work with this woman as she had alcohol issues,my partner is an alcoholic but has been sober for some time and works with people in substance misuse. Again I didnt feel massively comfortable as this was only a few months after everything had happened with the previous woman,again he reassured me it's not like that like and actually told me shes pathetic! So a couple of weeks went by and he lsrings it on me,I'm going for a run at 7pm......that I thought was too late to be running with some woman you barely know and baring in mind both me and our 5 year old son are at home. So of he goes,he gets back at just 9pm and said it was a good run and they spoke about her alcohol issues,fair enough I'll give him benefit of the doubt. The contact between them continues,we made a thing that Tuesdays was our day to go out together which I was looking forward too,he blew me out and stayed at home,when I returned in the afternoon the drills he had lent to this woman were in the hallway,I questioned him and said it's a bit strange how she drops them off on a day I'm not here.....? All he said was well it's not as if I've hidden them is it? Ok I thought and left it as that. He asked me to drop him off running one morning,I said no problem but the next morning he told me she was taking him,I lost my shit im afraid......we got in to a blazing row I asked him to get out,I left that late morning and came back to find he had gone. I thought he was probably in a hotel,he returned the next morning at 8.30am claiming him stayed in a hotel and went and had a bath. Later on the night we started again bickering at each other......he stayed in the living room and I went to bed,I noticed his phone on the floor and saw a message on watsapp from her! I went along with a few messages pretending to be him and she started saying how she wished she was cuddling him etc.....I phoned her off his phone,she answered and I went crazy on the phone to her! I went through his phone(not happy to admit) found a screenshot from her to him saying how he looked so handsome when he was asleep and that she was mund blown with how she felt and even on the very first day she met him she had feelings etc.....there was plenty more messages before but clearly he had deleted them! I phoned her again that morning after she messaged me on his phone saying how she wanted nothing to do with him etc and she spoke to him about not losing what he had! I confronted her about the message and said he didnt stay in a hotel did he? She said no he stayed at mine......then she tried to lie and say it was some where else bit didnt deny the fact they stayed together! Even after I warned her off she still carried on pursuing him......so I sent the screen shots to her husband!!!!! To top it off when I emptied the bag he had taking I found a pair of boxers with blood smears in them(like a monthly cycle) and he tried to claim it was from his man bits from running which is absolute rubbish as hes got no sores no nothing there and it was all up the front of his boxers and around where the manhood sits,plus I found her sock un his bag and she didnt deny that they had sex but he is! And to this day he has spoken to her but not in that context,on a running app he has when I feel all contact from this woman should stop! I don't why I'm still with him......km struggling to be physical in any shape or form let alone the bedroom,hes convinced hes done nothing wrong and gets defensive everytime I mention it,I have no one to talk too.....I cant sleep and I'm struggling hugely with all of this!!!!
Thank you for taking your time to read if you got this far any advice is very much appreciated!

OP posts:
Barton10 · 20/04/2020 11:58

In AA this is why they say men help men and women help women. If she is drinking she will be very vulnerable and he shouldn’t have taken advantage. All decent men know this. Get rid of him

BackseatCookers · 20/04/2020 12:27

It's such a red flag he knows how vulnerable alcoholics are and still wanted to be a buddy of sorts during her journey to getting sober.

Really worrying as he should know better than most how inappropriate and dangerous it is considering he's already overstepped boundaries with her to the point it's caused issues in your relationship.

She's a red herring, he's displayed how selfish he is and how little he respects you.

ErickBroch · 20/04/2020 12:39

What exactly do you want from here? It's over, he's been having multiple affairs, and has no respect for you. Why are you still with him? I don't mean this to be angry but I don't know what you want people to say because he is clearing a POS and you need to get rid of him. You don't need him to admit it.

BrioLover · 20/04/2020 12:46

As everyone else has said, he did.

You also need to figure out how to get an STI test ASAP because the blood in his boxers points to him having had unprotected sex.

Shows you how much care and respect he has for you really.

I'm sorry OP.

EKGEMS · 20/04/2020 12:55

Clearly you have chosen the wrong life partner and father of your child. You need to dig down deep or at least learn to fake having self esteem,self worth and maturity and leave the bastard. He's a lying,cheating,addicted criminal asshole

pusspuss9 · 20/04/2020 12:56

Stop involving her in this.

She is also heavily involved. She knows exactly what she's doing.
She doesn't get a free pass by any means. They are both involved and both sleazebags.

Crackerscheesescabbyknees · 20/04/2020 13:00

He cheated on you in Sweden and then brought that affair home with him. Once you put a stop to it, he found someone here to cheat with.
You are with a compulsive chest and liar.
Throw the whole man out.

Treacletoots · 20/04/2020 13:55

You're trying to find a tiny shred of evidence that convinces you he isn't treating you like complete and utter shite, and ignoring the mountain of actual behaviour that is as clear as day to everyone else, that he's not only a serial cheat, he's a lying abusive arsehole who is treating you like his live in servant.

One question, why on earth do you think you deserve to be treated like this?

Stop contacting the other woman. He's the issue FGS!

Stillfunny · 20/04/2020 14:02

I am sure the thought of the upheaval this will bring is daunting. But you really do have to do it .Make plans that suit you and get this unworthy man out of your life. It will never get better , he won't change and you might end up with another child which further traps you.
Everyone has told you what is going on , you should listen. Do you have any support in RL that can also help you through this ?

ThinkPink71 · 20/04/2020 14:09

Yes he did and probably still is. He will never admit the 100% truth so dont drive yourself mad trying to work it out.

Figure out whats next for you. Doesnt seem like hes showing any remorse.

copycopypaste · 20/04/2020 14:18

Yes if course he slept with her.

So he's had an emotional affair and a physical affair, two different women. What more evidence do you need?

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 20/04/2020 14:25

He had unprotected sex with a vulnerable woman and couldn't even be arsed to wash his dick or throw away his boxers. The same way he couldn't be arsed to move her stuff out of the hall.

Because he knows you'll put up with anything.

Please prove him wrong.

Hileni · 20/04/2020 14:38

Like a PP said, I wonder how angry you'll be when he does it with a 3rd? Maybe you could tattoo 'doormat' to your forehead when you find out about it?

I'm sorry that comes across so rude, OP. I'm hoping it's the kick up the bum you need to kick him up the bum!

Danroncody · 20/04/2020 16:25

I'm far from a door mat believe it or not,I'm the only woman hes been with that's challenged him about his behaviour!
This has not happened through AA and is nothing to do with AA ......I haven't anyone to talk too,that's why I'm on here to get it off my chest and view others emotions to the matter.
They are BOTH guilty,shes married,he has a partner and it takes 2 to tango baring in mind she knows full dam well EXACTLY who I am and that we have a skn together,he also knows she has a husband and 2 older sons,personally I would want to know if my partner had cheated for definite,anyone truly would.
I've only spoken to her TWICE when I originally found out,apart from that I have said no more to her and my anger is directed mostly at him!!!!
Shes not part of the AA,infact shes in the running club he goes too which is for everyday normal people wanting to exercise and for those needing a bit of guidance with life struggles,that is the best way I can put it,even once the lockdown has ended he will still be attending it and so will she......
And that is were my gripe is both walking round like their shit dont stink and they have got away with it,that's mostly why I'm angry to think she knows who I am and he went straight to her after a row and obviously something happened.
Some people want answers and the truth and some dont want to hear it,unfortunately I'm one for hearing the truth and my mind doesnt settle until i get it!
Hes and arsehole no doubt about that,I've been too good to him and do deserve much better im even more insulted she looks old enough to be my nan which I expressed to him.
I haven't had any form of intimacy with him since I made my discovery,no way would I step in to that territory!!!!! Already my skin crawls at the thought of it and he makes me feel sick!
I need to move on with my life,I've done well many a times without him when hes been inside and if anything I'm worse off with him around,to think I was loyal and he would be good is beyond me,I must have twat concreted at my front door!

OP posts:
Boomchikawowwow · 20/04/2020 16:56

He's having his cake and eating it. Why haven't you shown him the door?

Howfar12 · 20/04/2020 17:00

Well if you show him the door, it’s likely he’ll start suffering with alcohol addiction again. Try and work through it.

GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 20/04/2020 17:06

Let go of all this competitive shit with her. She owes you nothing. You are not in competition with her - well only if it’s a race to the bottom. This man is not a prize he’s a nasty cheating arsehole who thinks so little of women he will do and behave how ever he wants.
Of course he slept with her. It’s completely obvious from what you’ve written. I understand the need to ‘know’ but you already do! He’s just made you doubt yourself. He’s not on your side. He’s not on your team. You need some back up - who is supporting you irl?

BertiesLanding · 20/04/2020 17:10

But why challenge him about his behaviour? Why are you even there with him?

Do you think he'll change?

What has growing up in your birth family taught you about relationships?

You see, most people wouldn't have put up with this behaviour at all. Most people would probably not have chosen a partner like him in the first place.

You are spinning drama after drama - it is more than apparent in your OP - and now you're trying to spin us into it too (and you'll almost certainly be unaware you've been doing this).

Enough. Just leave.

BertiesLanding · 20/04/2020 17:11

And totally ignore @Howfar12 whose comment is so codependent as to be gob-smacking.

RoxanneMonke · 20/04/2020 17:16

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notapizzaeater · 20/04/2020 17:29

He's bringing nothing to the relationship regardless let him go !

Danroncody · 20/04/2020 18:15

Nope not spinning drama after drama.......and not pulling anyone in to it,just after other emotional views and how they have dealt with the matter.
I assure you theres no competition with her ha,ha,ha I'm above both of them! I've asked him to leave!!!!

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 20/04/2020 18:34

So not only is he a faithless piece of shit he's a convicted criminal

What a catch

EthelMayFergus · 20/04/2020 18:57

So you're younger than him, good looking and resourceful? Jesus, op, you absolutely know you can do better than him. He's made it easy for you, you and your son will have a far better life without him bringing you down.

BackseatCookers · 20/04/2020 19:43

Well if you show him the door, it’s likely he’ll start suffering with alcohol addiction again. Try and work through it.

Just a heads up @howfar12 - women do not exist to, and are not obligated to, mitigate and manage men's behaviour at their own expense. I hope if there are young women in your life you aren't teaching them otherwise.