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Step-daughter issues & my marriage

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JJShack · 08/04/2020 16:19

Advice needed please big-time!
I have an up/down relationship with my now 16 year old step daughter which does not seem to improve regardless of what I do or not do. She was an only child up until 5 years ago when my now husband & I met. I have 2 children D-13, S-16.
Generally speaking, Hubby & I have a great relationship & do both have a real love for each other. Any arguments that have been had have been about the children.
We are all under pressure currently with the lockdown, a couple of us having had the virus, a dog being run over in a hit & run 5 weeks ago... was very luck survive as well as 2 16 year olds who were due to have GCSE's but will no longer.
Stepdaughter is with us for 7 out of 14 nights in a 2 week pattern.
Over the years, I have learnt not to tell her off as she complains to her father & then tells him she no longer wishes to stay with us. There are occasions when she also has blamed my children for not wanting to come & stay. It has been a real challenge trying to keep a balance all round, trying not to upset her & then I have my kids ask why me she gets away with things & they do not.
It has not been as easy run of things & I do get upset at how dismissive & distant she can be.... she rarely thinks of anyone else but herself & can be rude to her father (as my children can be to me) but he ignores this. Since the start of year 11 back in September, she has been telling hubby that she would prefer to spend more time at her mum's for her GCSE's. Then since Christmas, she has been saying she would prefer to spend more time with her mother so that she can see her boyfriend as well as GCSE's - again Hubby talking her out of it.
Well last week, I ended up having too much to drink & lost it. I upset the whole family & directly told my stepdaughter that I was fed up with her & felt she causes a lot of the problems.
She now does not want to come to our house again or never see me again.
My hubby has told me in the last couple of days that he feels torn between his daughter & our marriage. He wants both.
He feels that the only way to have both now is to move into another property currently rented out on the nights we would normally have his daughter and then return back to our family home when she is not.
I really do not feel that this will work..... because the issue will not have properly been addressed, because my step-daughter will always feel she has one-up and can pull Daddy away at any time.
I also feel that it would not be right as it would be a strain on our marriage as if life right now is not already stressful..... it would also have financial implications that neither can really afford that would add a further strain.
I also feel that my stepdaughter would still not really be happy at staying with her Dad in a property in the middle of nowhere, no public transport etc & I feel that as she gets to do what she wants when she is with her mother - prefers that lifestyle as she can see her boyfriend whenever she likes & is also the "only child" at her Mothers house.
Hubby has now already given notice to tenants in other property. I really feel that what he is suggesting should not happen at all?
Am I wrong to feel this way and wanting to find an alternative solution or should I go along with what hubby is proposing to do?
Any advice would be extremely appreciated. TIA. x

OP posts:
OffThePlanet · 09/04/2020 18:32

I feel sorry for the tenants, they must be feeling worried and unsettled. Very thoughtless of your DH.

Your step daughter will more than likely prefer to stay in her own home, not have to spend half her time at someone else’s home. I think getting drunk and telling her what you thought was a big mistake.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 09/04/2020 18:39

Stepmum's get a hard rap on here but for once this feels justified.

I wrote a longer post but essentially your DH needs to leave you over this.

Obscene behaviour.

AnnUumellemahaye · 09/04/2020 18:46

This is so passive aggressive and sarcastic, I can hear how you've said 'daddy' here.

It's very clear you don't like her and your main concern is letting her 'win'.

i agree. This reminds me of those 'bitch MIL' posts where the wife has to have the controlling hand at all costs and the MIL needs to know her place.

It really is the very worst of womankind.

nellythenarwhal · 09/04/2020 18:56

16yo can be tough but have you ever considered how your two kids affect your h's life? How often he might have to bite his tongue or hope that this is a phase that will soon pass?

I took the telling off comment to mean that she sometimes looked after sd on her own and might have had to tell her off at the time because of something she said or did? When my kids had friends round sometimes they needed to be "told off" because they were too loud or doing something dangerous. I don't think I was wrong to do that and would happily recount the story if the other parent asked.

You mention everybody being upset with you. Did you insult everyone or are they pissed off how you targeted one childless- the one who's not biologically yours?

FineWordsForAPorcupine · 09/04/2020 18:58

She was an only child up until 5 years ago when my now husband & I met. I have 2 children D-13, S-16

She still is an only child. Spare a thought for how she might feel, when her dad moves in with a stepmother who clearly dislikes her, plus two kids who get to have her father living with them, playing dad to them every day.

You seem to have a very negative attitude towards her - if she speaks to her father about how you treat her, you think she is manipulative, if she tries to stop spending quite so much time in a household which is clearly very tense, you think she is ungrateful. It seems that nothing will satisfy you aside from her joyfully accepting her brand new brothers and sisters and new place in the household ("congrats! You are no longer an only child! These strange kids are your siblings now and you have to share your dad with them! Now do as you're told, and no snitching if I shout at you"). And to top it all, you get drunk and blame her for everything.

No wonder she isn't happy at her dad's house.

madcatladyforever · 09/04/2020 19:01

Your husband is being utterly pathetic and a lousy parent.
Your SD is being a spoilt brat and doing everything to manipulate the adults in her life and gain attention.
He is playing right into her hands.
Discipline is hard, but it has to be done, forget about guilt, he must discipline her and let her know that she cannot manipulate the entire family by playing up.
If he lets her get away with it she will be a horrendous adult woman.
I've had to be super tought on my son who did everything he could to manipulate me and my ex husband one against the other, I put my foot down and he disappeared for 2, 6 month stretches but I would not back down and eventually he backed down and stopped playing up.
It was the only way to get him to behave like a proper adult and to learn manners.

AnnUumellemahaye · 09/04/2020 19:01

Fantastic post Finewords you totally nailed how it feels. I do hope the OP is still reading.

boredboredboredboredbored · 09/04/2020 19:02

Something tells me the op is t coming back!

ilovebrie8 · 09/04/2020 19:16

I agree with @madcatladyforever and her approach. The SD is being very manipulative and using emotional blackmail.
Your husband needs to address that...caving in and moving into another property isn’t the answer for many reasons.
Even if he chuff do that very quickly and turf out the poor tenants in these tough times it would likely fall over quickly and SD would tire of being stuck in middle of nowhere. Feel for you OP.

Poppi89 · 09/04/2020 19:41

Does your 16 year old see her dad?
What would you think if his girlfriend got drunk and said the things you said to her?
If she said she wanted to spend more time with you during her GCSE's would you force her to see her dad more?

wasnotwasweregood · 09/04/2020 19:46

I can't see where it says that the SD actually wants her Dad to move out and spend her days with him alone? It sounds as if she just wants to be permanently at her Mum's place for friends, boyfriends and schooling and see her Dad on a more ad hoc basis. It doesn't sound that surprising for a 16-year old. Voting with your feet isn't emotional blackmail.

SandyY2K · 09/04/2020 19:56

The SD is being very manipulative and using emotional blackmail

I'd love to know what you interpret as manipulation here....because a 16 yo, who had her stepmother lash out at her and accuse her of causing all the family issues...who then decides she doesn't want to see her SM again is not being manipulative

If an adult behaved that way I wouldn't go to their house again.

I can't honestly believe people would rather blame the dad and his DD.

The blame on the dad here, was not standing up for his DD. I wonder if he's too scared to tell his wife she was way out of line.

There's not one tiny bit of remorse...just thinking how him moving out will affect you.

Not that your SD SD could be traumatised by a grown drunken woman who is her SM blowing up at her.

disorganisedsecretsquirrel · 09/04/2020 19:57

As someone in your DPs situaltyio. OP it really is the most stress free way at the moment .

I have 3 dc
We are married.
Mine dc find DH 'irritating' for no other reason than he wants my attention and they want my attention.

I moved out with them 6 months ago. I visit my DH. DC will be at Uni next year. We will live together again then and the dc need to suck up my choice . Until then, and whilst they have no choice about where they live - they live peacefully and happily with me.

Go for it OP you will find not being piggy in the middle stressful.

ukgift2016 · 09/04/2020 19:58

I am with the 16 year old here.

Also she is an only child, your children are not related to her nor has she grown up with them.

CJsGoldfish · 10/04/2020 00:29

Yeah, the 'only child' thing is bizarre and shows just how clueless you are OP. She IS an only child.

I do hope your DH puts his child first because your drunken rage says it all. How embarrassing for you and how devastating for the teen.
I'm not sure all the apologies in the world can 'fix' that. Not that you have indicated that you even tried.

PurpleTrilby · 10/04/2020 01:24

Poor tenants, looking at homelessness because of your family spat.

SandyY2K · 10/04/2020 01:35

Poor tenants, looking at homelessness because of your family spat.

Places are still available to rent evennow, so if they have the funds to rent, they'll be fine.

EL8888 · 10/04/2020 02:15

Your SD likes her own way, which we all do don't we. Your partner needs to not feed into that and no one should be treading on egg shells all the time. Not sure why people said you need to apologise to her, why validate that bad behaviour. She sounds like a brat to me, plus manipulative and controlling. I can see why you didn't want to live with her. Personally yep let her live be with your husband but l wouldn't accept him back with open arms. Sounds like a separation is needed. His loyalties are not with you. The advice of your children going elsewhere is charming by the way 🙄

differentnameforthis · 10/04/2020 04:28

The SD is being very manipulative and using emotional blackmail

I actually don't think she is. She is living half her life in a home where she isn't wanted by at least one person, and will she WILL know this! Kids are smart, I knew my mum didn't want me before I started school... her actions made it stand out a mile, and no, she was never physically abusive.

Believe, as a kid, you KNOW when you are not wanted.

stellabelle · 10/04/2020 04:39

How would you feel if your DH got drunk and told your kids that they are the cause of all your family's problems ?? You need to apologise to her . No wonder she wants to live with her mother, I would too. It's obvious that you dislike her for being a normal 16 year old.

FagashJackie · 10/04/2020 04:47

Seriously what would you do if your dh got drunk and had a go at one of your children?

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