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Adult DS becoming confrontational and potentially violent

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fadedviolets · 29/03/2020 12:17

I do need advice, but please don’t be annoyed if I don’t do exactly what people suggest. I really need to make sure that I get through this with minimal impact to everybody concerned.

DS(21) has autism. He is fairly high-functioning insofar as he has no input from outside agencies and he doesn’t claim any disability related benefits, although this is mostly because he doesn’t accept his diagnosis - at most, he accepts he has ‘some Asperger traits’ but he doesn’t accept that in fact his life is seriously compromised by his disability. He has grandiose ideas (to study medicine, to work abroad) but they have no basis in reality - he thinks saying things in a determined tone is enough.

He left school in 2016 with three A levels, but didn’t get brilliant grades and became notably withdrawn and depressed afterwards. He was definitely quirky at school but he did have friends and seemed mostly okay. I have wondered if perhaps I over encouraged him, and gave him an inflated sense of his own importance. It’s hard to say. Either way, he didn’t do much after leaving school. He did have a couple of jobs but they inevitably didn’t work out. He then got onto a course in 2018 which had work experience and gave him a moderate sum of money. He was asked to leave that at the end of last year, and since then has done NOTHING bar have one job that lasted two weeks.

He stays in bed until noon, then gets up, methodically cleans his teeth and washes his face (but doesn’t shower regularly) and watches Netflix. Sometimes he would go to the gym. His hair grew wild and bushy.

I’ve honestly tried to be supportive, put him on my car insurance so he could get to job interviews, helped with claiming JSA (he can’t claim it now as he left his last job) paid for a haircut (relief I did it just before lockdown) and I do give him money but he squanders it. I know that’s unfair really but he does, he buys Niquitin (he doesn’t even smoke) and before lockdown would for example buy two bus tickets rather than a day one so end up spending £10 instead of £3.

Anyway, on Friday, he gave me something to look after (Hmm) and I was in my bedroom at the time. My job recently disappeared due to coronavirus Sad but I did get a large payoff. I have put this in an ISA and I haven’t told DS, possibly unfairly but anyway. I am doing freelance work for a company I used to work for and it is reasonably well paid, but very intricate and tricky to do from home. I have converted my bedroom into a quiet space to do this. I put the thing ds gave me to one side and then I fell asleep Hmm and I couldn’t remember for the life of me where to put it. To be fair to him ds wasn’t angry but he did literally turn my room upside down hunting for it. I begged him to stop but it was as if he couldn’t hear me - he very probably couldn’t as when he fixates on one thing everything else does fall by the wayside but even so it was absolutely horrible having your adult son rifle through underwear and jewellery box and perfume and cosmetics. (It eventually turned up in my hair straighteners case, if anyone’s interested.)

Anyway, this will sound ridiculous but I’ve been silently fuming about that all day yesterday. It brought back a really uncomfortable memory of my dad deciding as a teenager that my bedroom was too messy and he took it upon himself to go in, make sticky labels entitled BRAS, KNICKERS and sort my underwear. I’m not suggesting for a moment my dad meant anything inappropriate towards me in doing so, but it was just really humiliating having it happen (both my parents had the attitude that ‘it’s not your room, it’s ours, because it’s our house.’) So that, combined with endless ‘MUUUUUM, MUUUM?’ ‘yes, dear?’ ‘I’ve ... decided I’m going to apply for jobs in India!’ while I’m trying to do fiddly, intricate work (and yes I HAVE asked him PLEASE not to interrupt me) I’ve been feeling thoroughly stressed and fed up with him.

Today he asked for my debit card to go to the shop with, and I said yes and asked him to pick up a drink I like. I added that there was only now £20 in the current account, which isn’t a problem as I will get paid for the work I’ve done tomorrow. DS pulled an incredibly sanctimonious face and loudly said ‘ER, do you think you could try to drink water? Your habit (Hmm) is costing us a fortune.’

I was furious, and I won’t deny I snapped. He called me a ‘fucking cheeky git’ which HAS really annoyed me - it’s so disrespectful - and started bellowing. To be honest, I was finding it a bit intimidating and this is something we’ve spoken about before in calmer moments, about how he appears bloody scary when he’s angry and this is one of the reasons a few jobs haven’t worked out - and he came looming over me with his fist raised. Nothing happened but I was / am shaken.

I’m not sure what to do now. I do have an adult daughter I could stay with, but she’s a key worker and she has a fiancé and I don’t want to make things tense for them. I also have a partner, who would probably be pleased if I were to move in for a bit but I don’t know what I’d tell him and also it still seems a bit rude almost to plonk myself there.

I could possibly book a hotel or Airbnb normally but of course now I can’t.

So should I grit my teeth and see it out, move in with daughter or dp, or other option? As I’m feeling I just CAN’T stay.

OP posts:
Fidgety31 · 30/03/2020 19:56

Oh OP I feel your pain. I too have a young adult son like yours .
The verbal agrression is awful .
It often leaves me sitting alone in my car just to get some peace .
There is no outside help for high functioning autism . You just have to get on with it . As hard as it is . And I would never send my son to supported living either as I know that would not help him.
But do apply for PIP . It isn’t means tested and will allow him to spend his own money .

carly2803 · 30/03/2020 20:05

you should not need to leave OP,this is your house.

i would not be leaving at all,it gives him more power,less chance of him getting a job and alife of his own.

He needs external support clearly, how that happens is beyond me.

carly2803 · 30/03/2020 20:05

you should not need to leave OP,this is your house.

i would not be leaving at all,it gives him more power,less chance of him getting a job and alife of his own.

He needs external support clearly, how that happens is beyond me.

fadedviolets · 30/03/2020 20:22

Well, that’s not completely true, womb

He was AWFUl yesterday, but that’s very extreme, he isn’t normally that bad. He doesn’t really want to be treated as an autistic person - this is the problem, really. I honestly don’t think he has any sort of psychosis or meanness, he’s very gentle with animals and young children.

I think some of you have been very perceptive and pointed out that he’s distressed and struggling to articulate this, and also that I’ve been treating him as a NT person the same age. I think truth be told that although I KNOW autism isn’t ‘curable’ I still secretly hope it is, that he’ll “realise.” And of course, he doesn’t!

But as PP have said, there really isn’t a lot of help available. He wouldn’t go into supported living - even if he was eligible, which he isn’t. Regarding PIP, the problem is he is honest to a fault, so when asked (for example) if he can wash unaided he answers yes, but he fails to mention that he needs reminders to shower or bath at all!

However I did speak with someone from a helpline today who was lovely, she’s sent us some email links and I’ll do those tomorrow with DS so hopefully get something sorted. Thank you again for letting me offload and for the advice, sometimes it isn’t specific advice exactly but talking through your situation allows you to work it out and reflect. Ds isn’t blameless but neither am I, and I think I need to remember I’m not dealing with a NT person here. I don’t know why it’s so hard for me to remember this sometimes!

OP posts:
Fidgety31 · 30/03/2020 20:35

OP if you request to be his painter for PIP then you will fill the forms in and answe the questions - not him.

Inforthelonghaul · 01/04/2020 13:01

Op supported living isn’t a necessarily a shared home. If individuals are deemed able they are helped to rent a flat of their own and just have support for a number of hours a week to assist with living independently ie; shopping, taking meds etc.

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