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Why Am I So Unlucky?

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disposablegirl · 29/03/2020 12:02

Hello everyone.
This is going to be a long one, I'm sorry. I just need to put all the details out there and get opinions from you all.

I met this 32-year old guy on tinder. He ticked all my boxes physically and we had a good first date. Things moved pretty quickly. He lives with his very religious parents and I live alone, so all times, he is at mine. He sneaks to mine after work and sometimes lies to his parents that he's traveling for work and spend a week at mine.

About 2 months before meeting, his on and off 4-year relationship had ended. They were engaged to be married and he described the relationship as "toxic". Said his ex would get defensive about things and was stubborn and wouldn't apologise. I think there also was an episode on DV on him by his ex. They had broken up and 2 weeks later, he reached out to his ex to reconcile as usual but she had moved on with another guy. This, he said, broke him. When we discussed this, I could sense he still harboured a lot of anger towards his ex but I understood it was a long term relationship and maybe that was normal.

One night, we went out and my ex literally froze in the club because he saw his ex and her new man. He ignored me and was awkward. We had a row. He apologised and said it was the first time they'd seen since they broke up and he was just shocked. He was angry and made some statements like "did she look happy?" and "see the kind of guy she's with- young and unambitious" and "nobody will love her like I did, she will regret it". All these made me very suspicious that he hadn't gotten over her but he swore he had and was just angry. That night, he told me he loved me. He asked that we become exclusive and we take off all our dating apps which we did.

I noticed that he was not the most thoughtful person. I, on the other hand, am a gift giver and thoughtful. I listened to him- if he said he lost anything and I could afford it, I'd replace it. If I sensed he needed anything, I would get him it- loved the smile on his face when he got surprised. My bf on the other hand struggled to remember I asked him to buy paracetamol when he was coming to mine, forgot my first day at a new job, would not buy groceries voluntarily except I asked (though I cooked for us both), would not even send those mushy messages people sent when they just start dating. At some point, he only said "I love you" after a fight or in response to when I said it.
I asked him frequently if he thought about me and his answer would be "of course" but I explained he had not been intentional with me. Will give a few examples;

  1. My bf came home after shopping with his mum to say he had bought vitamins for himself for "immune boosting" against COVID-19. I'm a frontline worker and he did not even think to buy me some.
  2. I did not get a message on Valentine's Day. He claimed he doesn't celebrate Valentine's Day because it is "commercialised". I made it clear I do and got him an expensive gift. It was until we had a fight that he bought me flowers.
  3. I asked for little notes and cards- the little things. Never got any.
  4. I'd mostly cook for us or order take out when he came to mine from work. Not once did he buy groceries to bring to mine. I managed to get some money from him after asking. One time, he finished eating and washed just his plate and left a cup and fork in the sink. Traveled and left the room in a mess despite knowing I was on night shift.

I'm not the most self-confident person. My self esteem is low. After encountering his ex in the club and him ignoring me, I found myself asking him if he's embarrassed of me quite a lot. His ex is a very put together lady and I'm a plain Jane. It didn't help that he would pass harmless comments about my hair or me not making the effort to dress up sometimes (he was right). He would reassure me that I'm beautiful but I didn't believe him.

On his birthday, he had 5 of his friends come to where we live and I housed them all, happily. We had a fight on our night out where he yelled at me and I walked off. He said I ruined his birthday which I apologised for and we made up.

Also, we were meant to see a movie together. He decided to see it and lied to me about it. I was very furious. We had an intense fight about this and I still cringe at how angry I was that day.
It was not just about a movie to me, it was yet another episode of him not "rating" me enough to pay attention to my need or care about my feelings. I apologised for my reaction as well.

He said I hate men! I'm feminist. When we were together, I had a lot of my friends going through divorce/relationship breakdown so I had some not-too-good words to say about men- half serious, half banter. I reassured him I loved him but couldn't stand my friends being hurt.

He asked for a 2-week break, he needed to "sort out" his feelings. 2 days into the break, my bf has activated all his dating apps!
I waited for 2 weeks and asked if he wanted us to try again to which he said "no". His reasons were that we don't share the same value (which I disagree with) and "timing is wrong" as he's still angry about his ex but would consider taking her back if she did the work. "You're amazing though", he said to me.
Why would you leave someone who's amazing?

More on his thoughtlessness- while on the break, a lot of people checked up on me to wish me safety about the Corona Virus situation. Never got a text or call from my ex. I would have checked on him if he was a frontline worker and we were on a break.
Secondly, I was meant to get an implant (contraception) which we both planned and he knew I was nervous about. He promised he would be there to support me. He neither remembered nor cared about it (his reason was "because we are on a break"). I'm sure if we weren't, I would have had to remind him.
He said I took the relationship too seriously and that it was only for 3 months! (Despite him asking that we be exclusive)

We've been broken up for a week now and I can't stop thinking about him. Been crying and not eating. I feel like I invested a lot and lost; like I studied for an exam and failed.

Did I ask for too much? Was I too intense? Will he come back?

Thank you x

OP posts:
AzraiL · 29/03/2020 14:38

You're not unlucky, you just have ridiculously low standards. I'm sorry this happened but please make sure that you don't keep putting up with bullshit in the future. You need to back yourself, and recognise that if a man is not giving you what you want, then you do not have 'shared values'.

Starlight1243 · 29/03/2020 14:50

Sounds like a lot of effort for a short relationship, hes not over his ex and you seem like hardwork in certain parts of you're op. Best to walk away

DeeCeeCherry · 29/03/2020 14:53

You're not unlucky
But you are naive. The 'My ex is a bitch/violent/untidy' whatever script is so old it's got whiskers on. It's a red flag when that's a man's approach - He's setting you up, appealing to your ego that will preen 'oh he obviously sees me as better than her'.

Your pedestal doesn't last long, however. The ex has usually dumped the man, and she knows why. Should she move on with another man, he is devastated. Despite claiming she was hell on earth.

His actions towards you by now. should already have given you an inkling as to why a sensible woman would get rid of him.

You're the fallback girl I'm afraid. But you can effect change by swerving sob story men. & perhaps think honestly about why you'd even want this one back, he sounds like a total pain in the arse.

BumbleBeee69 · 29/03/2020 14:59

He is no LOSS... keep saying that to yourself... he is NO LOSS..

This guy has nothing to offer... he lives at home with Mummy and Daddy living off them... he's insulting and arrogant ... he's a vile disgusting pig... and happy to take your hard earned money in the form of very expensive gifts whilst giving you FUCK ALL... not even his affection ... he is no man....

OP... the ladies on here are correct.. you need to heal and improve your self worth... which I see you are taking steps to do... well done..

p.s. Thank you for your Front Line care

Crikey0000 · 29/03/2020 14:59

Use the lockdown to reflect, work on your self esteem and stop looking for a relationship for a while. You sound very needy(He sounds like a twat tbf) . You dont need him in your life. Get happy without men. You need to be ok in yourself don't make your happiness the responsibility of a man you barely know.

BertiesLanding · 29/03/2020 15:08

You are not "unlucky": your past experience - probably in the family you grew up in - has made you poorly equipped to make healthy relationship choices.

There were several red flags right from the start that most other people would have seen and acted on. You did not because you've probably lived with red flags all your life, so they have become normal.

disposablegirl · 29/03/2020 15:41

@AzraiL

You're right. I asked my therapist, "am I expecting too much from him?", she replied "problem is you're expecting too little".

I'm a work in progress. Thank you x

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disposablegirl · 29/03/2020 15:43

@BertiesLanding

I have always had to prove my self worth all my life to get love. I've had to be "nice" to be seen by my parents. When I did something wrong, they wouldn't love me. My therapist thinks that's why I "work so hard" at relationships instead of just being.

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disposablegirl · 29/03/2020 15:49

@BumbleBeee69 HE IS NO LOSS!

Thanks so much.

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disposablegirl · 29/03/2020 15:51

@Starlight1243 what parts do you think makes me hard work? Honestly open to criticism so I can bring it up with my therapist. Thanks xx

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hellodinasour · 29/03/2020 16:01

Ah god I'm going to be brutally honest with youv. He has no feelings what so ever for you . Youl come across these men . Garantee you think the next person he will go out with he will seem really happy and will settle down quickly with them all the stuff you wanted from him he will do in his next relationship. But don't get angry or jelouse . No matter who he's with right now he will still be totally in love with his ex . In a months time you will honestly think what the hell was I wasting my time for . It's going to be hard . Iv been through it and I have sadly also been that person. If you get any messages from him in the near future it's either cause he's drunk or broke up with the next one so don't even go there . Get back out there you sound lovely and there will be someone out there for you x

disposablegirl · 29/03/2020 16:11

Thank you so much everyone. I just stood up to make myself some food and ordered some self help books as well. You guys are wonderful and I'm very grateful. I feel much better.

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morriseysquif · 29/03/2020 16:27

I think you are treating him in a certain way hoping he will get the message and treat you that way back. He won't. He isn't wired that way.

You are his rebound, possibly to make his girlfriend jealous.

I've been there and there is nothing you can do, you are there as a distraction and emotional crutch.

Please please end this.

BertiesLanding · 29/03/2020 16:29

@disposablegirl Yay! Flowers

willowpatterns · 29/03/2020 16:32

I have always had to prove my self worth all my life to get love. I've had to be "nice" to be seen by my parents. When I did something wrong, they wouldn't love me.

This is not normal parental behaviour.

From this it seems to me that your parents have been abusive towards you all your life. No wonder that you feel the way you do about relationships.

Another book for your list - Toxic Parents by Susan Forward.

And find out what you can about FOG (fear, obligation, guilt). You may be in for an eye-opener.

Flowers
strawberrylipgloss · 29/03/2020 16:37

Your title is bizarre because I don't see any signs of bad luck but it sounds like this relationship is horrible and should have ended much sooner. It sounds like he used you in the hope of getting over his ex and it must have been a great ego boost to have someone adore him so much regardless. Please let go of hopes of reconciliation. He's clearly not the man for you and I think it's one of those cases where I suspect that his ex would have a very different story of why they broke up.

Well done for proactively finding a therapist and looking into your behaviour during the relationship. Hopefully it will help you find a healthy and loving relationship in future Thanks You deserve your be loved and are not unreasonable to ask and want a partner to send loving message, check that you're well etc

I'm concerned about the bit where you were going to change yourself so you were more like his ex. Please don't do that - men aren't one homogeneous mass who like a certain type of woman. There will be men who like you the way that you are right now.

BackseatCookers · 29/03/2020 16:40

I didn't believe someone would want me, so I did things that I thought meant they would need me. Paid for everything, gave them gifts, constantly reassured and supported them etc but with nothing back at all. It doesn't work. I did this with a series of awful, abusive men.

You can't love hard enough for two people. I've spent ages of time and therapy working on this and developed excellent boundaries.

As a consequence I stopped seeing people when it wasn't making me happy, or I felt myself chasing them because they were disinterested or felt myself even slightly tempted to change something because they mentioned they liked it etc.

Now I'm in a lovely, fun and secure relationship where I can be totally myself and still do lovely things for him because he appreciates it and is lovely back!

I'm so glad I met him after working on myself and being single for a while first. He's like a best mate I also want to shag all the time - not someone I'm constantly trying to prove my worth to or get a scrap of reassurance from, feeling like I'm only as good as our last interaction. I remember living in that anxious state of mind for so long and recognise it in your posts so much.

Always remember, if you can't be 100% yourself to be 50% of a couple then you're in the wrong relationship.

MadameButterface · 29/03/2020 16:46

He sounds like he fed you a right load of old shit op,

Not the old my ex is a violent psycho bitch thing (but i still love her!!)

I live with my parents and you can’t come over cos they’re christians yeah right

I used to work in dubai but i’m skint because my ex spent all my money yeah right

Come on! do some work on yourself before you shag anyone else

disposablegirl · 29/03/2020 16:52

@backseatcookers

Gosh. Thanks so much. I have anxiety whenever I'm in a new relationship. I don't want it to go awry so I keep bending over backwards to make them work. I hope I'm able to set boundaries as well. I've researched and turns out I've got an anxious attachment style in relationships. That must be hard to deal with.

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goldpartyhat · 29/03/2020 17:14

Please do not waste a scrap more mental energy on him. He is not worth it.

BumbleBeee69 · 29/03/2020 17:21

Enjoy your journey to You OP Flowers

Glitterb · 29/03/2020 17:37

Why would you want him back? He sounds horrific!

Ifonlywecouldwishuponastar · 29/03/2020 17:44

I'm sorry. But only cares about himself. Re Valentine's Day neither my parents or me or my dh do Valentine's Day.
Some people do think it's commercialism.
However, reading the rest of post I think you deserve better.

WalledGarden · 29/03/2020 17:59

I agree with a pp — you’re asking the wrong question. The question to ask, always, is ‘Is he good enough for me?’

Skippingabeat · 29/03/2020 18:49

Everyone here has given you excellent advice, you should definitely dump him. He has used you for his rebound, and doesn't give a fuck about you or your feelings.

I don't think you do anything wrong when you're being thoughtful and a giver. These are good qualities and you should keep them.

But you should be aware that these qualities usually attract selfish takers. You've been good at spotting that he's a selfish taker, but instead of dumping him immediately when you realized that, you kept giving and giving thinking he'll change his ways. He won't.

You would be very happy in a relationship where the other person is also a giver. So keep looking for one who is, and get used to immediately dumping those who aren't.

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