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When i found womens underwear in my DH's glove box i thought he was having an affair, but i have found out that is much worse than that.

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howdoihandlethis · 10/09/2007 20:59

Ok i am a long timer i know about grapes tablecloths and JFlounce.
i have had to name change for this as i don't want to be indentified.
My DH has been acting oddly and has been very distant with me for a few months, i suspected that he was having an affair and have being snooping around. on looking in his car glove box i found several pairs of ladies undies and a couple of bras.
tonight i have confronted him with the evidence and he very tearfully told me that he isn't having an affair but that he likes to wear ladies undies, how do i handle this, i am in shock, he has gone out and i don't know if i want him to come back.

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Rhubarb · 10/09/2007 21:23

Aww, people are answering in all seriousness! Bless!

BreeVanDerCampLGJ · 10/09/2007 21:24

Variation on a theme...

We have had this thread before.

howdoihandlethis · 10/09/2007 21:25

i did find some womens underwaer leaflets and i thought that as my birthday was coming up that he was planning a surprise for me

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MarshaBrady · 10/09/2007 21:26

The kitchen pots fetish thread now that was good.
sigh

Rhubarb · 10/09/2007 21:26

Does he wash them? Have you checked your own for suspicious skid marks?

Aitch · 10/09/2007 21:27

hasn't this been a surprise?

Speccy · 10/09/2007 21:27

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howdoihandlethis · 10/09/2007 21:28

i am gonna have to put a lock on my undie drawer

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Rhubarb · 10/09/2007 21:28

Why? You only have big knickers, not the frilly lacy types he likes.

wannaBe · 10/09/2007 21:29

that was before I saw the washing post.

I know someone who genuinely went through this and therefore I have seen first hand the destruction that it can cause to a relationship. They were on the verge of adopting a child and now he is living as a woman and she is on her own.

Speccy · 10/09/2007 21:31

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madamez · 11/09/2007 09:37

I do feel sort of obliged to add that not only is cross-dressing a fairly run of the mill (and often rather fun) fetish, but I did once know someone who genuinely had a pots 'n' pans thing going on. More things in Hendon and earth...

bananaknickers · 11/09/2007 13:50

Was this a joke then?

lucyellensmum · 11/09/2007 14:49

one of my ex partners was a cross dresser, i had no problem with it at all, i did however have a problem with the secrecy and he was a tosser anyway, but not because he cross dressed. What did it for me was when i was walking through sainsbury with him, only to notice he was taking grapes from our basket and EATING them before we paid. I mean, you can't live with that sort of behaviour can you

lucyellensmum · 11/09/2007 14:52

Moobies?? is that like man boobs? oh dear, first laugh ive had all day

nailpolish · 11/09/2007 14:52

pmsl @

ncforobviousreasons · 12/09/2007 18:13

Hello.

Maybe I can help a bit.

I'm a man, and occasionally a transvestite, or crossdresser. The label is unimportant really. I imagine that there is as wide a range, or spectrum of gender dysphoria as there is between heterosexuality and homosexuality.

At one end, you have men who believe, and have believed all their life, that they should have been born a woman, and at the other you have men who feel happy, or even sexy when they wear womens clothing, usually in the form of lingerie - society sends men some pretty strong images and ideas about the sexualisation of clothing from a pretty early age, so you can see where that comes from, but in my experience it's triggered by some aspect of their own sexual identity first.

It is horribly difficult feeling like this, because it isn't "normal" - and the one thing that you want to be is accepted as normal in this state - the gay community temds to be a bit sniffy unless you are a proper screaming drag queen, and very, very few women want to think of their partners having such a side to them - it's not really about a feminine side, it's about an image of femininity that probably only exists in the minds of men.

If your husband has been going to gay clubs, it's perhaps because he feels a bit more accepted there - it's a community that is a bit more tolerant (though not always) of people who aren't obviously in the mainstream, and transwhatevered people aren't numerous and out enough to merit their own places, so they put their lot in the with the queers and the dykes, and good company they are too - though you find that if you go to any club dressed up it is ALWAYS the men who hit on you, because they assume you are gay - and they always start their chat ups with "I'm not gay but...".

You've got a choice. You can talk to him about it, and try to understand it, and maybe accept it, or even relish it. Or you can let your fear take hold, and tell him you think it's weird and wrong, and he's gay, and you want him to stop, and he will tell you he will, but he will never be able to, not really, so he'll either keep it a closer secret, or you'll catch him again.

He's as likely to be gay as the next man, crossdresser or not, but maybe, if you drive him away, or into hiding, he'll turn to someone who accepts him for comfort.

Why would you look in the glove compartment - if the answer is ordinary, then maybe he meant you to find them. Can you imagine, for a minute, how difficult it would be for him to broach this subject with you? When would you expect him to do it - when you first meet, when you get engaged, on the wedding night, when the children take their first communion? I don't think that there is a right time for it.

There are a few good organisations that can offer you help - not him, but you - if you feel uncomfortable.

Peachy · 12/09/2007 18:17

Oh if only I could get you on the phone to dh- he grew up with a cross dressing Dad, one of his most vivid memories os finding FIl (whom I love dearl;y) dressed as a French maid in the shed cleaning the car.... Dh was about 14, not a good age!

I imagine that's pretty traumatic a thing to find about your dh but do remember he is still the man he was, at teh end of the day its just a bit of fabric. Dh's dad is a pretty freaky dresser and happily goes out and about wearing the most odd bizarre outfits, it DID contribute (I believe to the breakdown of his marriage after 35 years but MIL is rpetty uptight.

FWIW ourr elationship with FIL blossoms more as time goes on, and he ahs got himself a lovely partner who adores him whatever (he's not gay). It's just part of a complex, loveable and kind man

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