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Please help I need a woman advice...

50 replies

ghiom · 16/03/2020 18:07

Where to begin.... PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR OPINIONS.

Me and my wife first got together Ten years ago. At the start of our relationship, I was a sumbag. I cheated, lied, did everything someone shouldn't within a relationship. I did this on and off until, despite the fact we weren't trying for a baby, she had an ectopic and on that day I decided no more! A couple of months later, I asked her to marry me.

We now have two children, 5 and 3, and our relationship has been hard due to the strains that children bring and she has always carried resentment from these early times... But we have shared great times also and I love her deeply.

For the last couple of years we got to the point we would barely touch, we had sex maybe ten times in four years. This was very much led by her pulling away. One year ago, I was away on business, and I slept with someone. This was a one night stand while very very drunk and I regretted it so much. I came home and tried so hard, but despite the fact, she didn't know what had happened, she was just gone. Pulled away when I touched her, snarled at me over nothing. Then three months later was told my wife had HPV, which I believe could only have come from my cheating. So I admitted to my one nightstand.

Sins then we have been going to counselling and trying to fix it as we do have a lot to lose.
Our friendship, despite all of this, is fantastic, and we are still best friends. It's a real relationship we don't have. I have been trying to make it better as I love her deeply. At the start of our relationship, I was a dishonest *, when I had this one night stand, I made a massive, drunken mistake. I have not done anything else between these points. But of course, she still remembers the start and it must be hard for her to see the difference between the 2. She has, however, said she doesn't think the 1-night stand isn't fully my fault and it would have happened to one of us at some point due to the state of our relationship.

Three weeks ago, I felt our relationship was miles better. We were so much closer and thought we had turned a corner. Then she once again pulled away, didn't want to touch etc. Then told me on Friday morning she wanted a trial separation, which developed to wanting a divorce by lunchtime. Now she is once again saying she wants a trial separation, she needs time to know what she wants.

She has also told me she has been having an emotional affair with someone at work for the past two months. This isn't because I haven't been giving her something but that she is withdrawn from me to the point that she cant receive what I am offering.

I also saw she had been googling why woman want to have affairs, so she is thinking about it at the very least.

I believe she has kind of caught herself in this behaviour and called for the trial separation before she did something that was out of her character.

I am more than willing to give her the time she needs....

I can't tell you how deeply I love this person, despite all the bad and not great times. I see her for who she is, I helped her get into this rut with my actions and I feel guilty for it. I want to help her get out of it even if it isn't with me.

At the same time, I have now spent years with someone who hasn't wanted to touch me or barely had any interest in any aspect of me at all. and I deserve more.... I just hope she can see me for who I am without this withdrawal because I know how fantastic she can be. and I believe our relationship could be that also.

I guess what I am asking is.... Has too much happened? Is our relationship just gone or can relationships be salvaged in the midst of all these terrible things?

OP posts:
Aquamarine1029 · 16/03/2020 18:10

It's over. Let her move forward to a happier life.

Mabelface · 16/03/2020 18:13

You were lucky to stay with her the first time. You love her so much you went balls deep into someone else. You reap what your sow, mate. Let her go to find someone will be faithful.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 16/03/2020 18:16

Live by the penis sword, die by the sword.

You've been on borrowed time for 10 years, that time has now run out.

Let your poor wife go her own way and concentrate on an amicable co-parenting relationship.

Mistystar99 · 16/03/2020 21:10

Let her go in peace. Make a friendship for the children.

lyingwanker · 16/03/2020 21:14

She's checked out of the relationship due to your poor treatment of her. There won't be any coming back from that I don't think.

Allinadaystwerk · 16/03/2020 21:16

Let her go in peace. Make a friendship for the children.

This🔝

Aerial2020 · 16/03/2020 21:16

You deserve more?
Sounds like she's worked she does.

Aerial2020 · 16/03/2020 21:17

*worked out that should say

mycatsmellsbad · 16/03/2020 21:19

Don’t worry, she can see who you for who you are alright.

titchy · 16/03/2020 21:20

I just hope she can see me for who I am

Don't worry dude, she can.

category12 · 16/03/2020 21:22

Yeah, you done fucked this up. Let it go, be amicable for the kids and in your next relationship, keep it in your pants.

otterhound · 16/03/2020 21:35

You’ve done too much damage in the past and now its come home to roost.

She wants to leave as she doesn’t want to cheat. Let her go

GeordieTerf · 16/03/2020 21:40

If you really loved this woman, then you'd set her free to find someone who treats her right.

SonEtLumiere · 16/03/2020 21:46

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/03/2020 21:46

she has been having an emotional affair with someone at work for two months. This isn't because I haven't been giving her something but that she is withdrawn from me to the point that she cant receive what I am offering

It seems that, despite your doubts, she can see you for exactly what you are ... and that includes the total lack of empathy shown here ^^

Nuttyfellalovesnutella · 16/03/2020 21:48

I’m not a woman but, sometimes relationships are not meant to be. You say you love her but sometimes it’s difficult to see clearly when you are in the midst of a relationship that you don’t really love her.

You might love her in a way, and you love your children, and love being a family unit. But when you love someone you treat them well and want to make them happy and proud. You lift them up, not bring them down.

I think you would be kinder to yourself and your partner to let yourselves split and start mew lives. You can be friends and there will always be a bond due to the kids.

12345kbm · 16/03/2020 21:50

Why do you think she's pulled away OP? Are you doing everything you can to act as a team? Doing your fair share?

Do you show your wife how much you love her? (The gift of HPV really doesn't count)

I'm imagining, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you dump everything on her, treat her like a domestic servant there to look after your children, cook, shop, run the household. Pester her for sex.

Then, you have unprotected sex, give her an STD (some forms of HPV give cervical cancer and genital warts) and are flapping your wrists after admitting to being a scumbag, wondering how to make things right.

Divorce. Do you fair share of the work regarding the children and move on with your life. She'll hopefully get some therapy in order to regain her lost self esteem and meet someone who loves and appreciates her.

CalleighDoodle · 16/03/2020 21:52

You absolutely 100% don’t deserve more. You are very selfish. You are a shitty husband.

Your wife has asked you to move out. More than once. Stop Being that scumbag she married and Do it.

ShamefulBlanket · 16/03/2020 21:55

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BackseatCookers · 16/03/2020 22:31

Hurts, doesn't it? If you 'love' her then let her go and have a relationship that doesn't have so much baggage, by which I mean a history of a partner lying and cheating to her then expecting karma not to bite him in the arse. It's done, you had your chance many times and you blew it. Don't be selfish all over again, it's over.

BIWI · 16/03/2020 22:33

Hmm. It's a difficult one, isn't it?

FFS.

SittingAround1 · 16/03/2020 22:51

What exactly are you expecting posting in mumsnet?

Be amicable in the divorce, pay your child support and don't fuck up your children's lives anymore than you have done already.

Bufferingkisses · 16/03/2020 22:55

You deserve more? 🙄

StampMc · 16/03/2020 22:58

Your relationship has changed. It needs to be rebuilt as friends and co-parents. Your romantic relationship sounds absolutely shite so hopefully this new one will be more successful.

LittleWing80 · 16/03/2020 23:03

Poor woman...

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