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Please help I need a woman advice...

50 replies

ghiom · 16/03/2020 18:07

Where to begin.... PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR OPINIONS.

Me and my wife first got together Ten years ago. At the start of our relationship, I was a sumbag. I cheated, lied, did everything someone shouldn't within a relationship. I did this on and off until, despite the fact we weren't trying for a baby, she had an ectopic and on that day I decided no more! A couple of months later, I asked her to marry me.

We now have two children, 5 and 3, and our relationship has been hard due to the strains that children bring and she has always carried resentment from these early times... But we have shared great times also and I love her deeply.

For the last couple of years we got to the point we would barely touch, we had sex maybe ten times in four years. This was very much led by her pulling away. One year ago, I was away on business, and I slept with someone. This was a one night stand while very very drunk and I regretted it so much. I came home and tried so hard, but despite the fact, she didn't know what had happened, she was just gone. Pulled away when I touched her, snarled at me over nothing. Then three months later was told my wife had HPV, which I believe could only have come from my cheating. So I admitted to my one nightstand.

Sins then we have been going to counselling and trying to fix it as we do have a lot to lose.
Our friendship, despite all of this, is fantastic, and we are still best friends. It's a real relationship we don't have. I have been trying to make it better as I love her deeply. At the start of our relationship, I was a dishonest *, when I had this one night stand, I made a massive, drunken mistake. I have not done anything else between these points. But of course, she still remembers the start and it must be hard for her to see the difference between the 2. She has, however, said she doesn't think the 1-night stand isn't fully my fault and it would have happened to one of us at some point due to the state of our relationship.

Three weeks ago, I felt our relationship was miles better. We were so much closer and thought we had turned a corner. Then she once again pulled away, didn't want to touch etc. Then told me on Friday morning she wanted a trial separation, which developed to wanting a divorce by lunchtime. Now she is once again saying she wants a trial separation, she needs time to know what she wants.

She has also told me she has been having an emotional affair with someone at work for the past two months. This isn't because I haven't been giving her something but that she is withdrawn from me to the point that she cant receive what I am offering.

I also saw she had been googling why woman want to have affairs, so she is thinking about it at the very least.

I believe she has kind of caught herself in this behaviour and called for the trial separation before she did something that was out of her character.

I am more than willing to give her the time she needs....

I can't tell you how deeply I love this person, despite all the bad and not great times. I see her for who she is, I helped her get into this rut with my actions and I feel guilty for it. I want to help her get out of it even if it isn't with me.

At the same time, I have now spent years with someone who hasn't wanted to touch me or barely had any interest in any aspect of me at all. and I deserve more.... I just hope she can see me for who I am without this withdrawal because I know how fantastic she can be. and I believe our relationship could be that also.

I guess what I am asking is.... Has too much happened? Is our relationship just gone or can relationships be salvaged in the midst of all these terrible things?

OP posts:
Aerial2020 · 16/03/2020 23:06

Also, your whole post is about you.
You won't get any sympathy on here.
I'm surprised she's lasted this long the poor woman.

artio0 · 16/03/2020 23:30

You've made your choice. Twice. I hope your wife finds someone who loves her and treats her right.

DingleberryRose · 16/03/2020 23:50

I have now spent years with someone who hasn't wanted to touch me or barely had any interest in any aspect of me at all. and I deserve more

No! You really don’t! You shouldn’t be with anyone you’re a walking nightmare.

SistemaAddict · 16/03/2020 23:55

Aww. Diddums.

CoronaVera · 17/03/2020 00:17

TL:DR

This isn't love. Give her the chance to find happiness somewhere else and you go and learn how to be considerate before entering into another relationship.

Bookworm83 · 17/03/2020 04:59

I'm sorry but it doesn't compute.
You love her so much, yet you had no problem fucking someone else?
A "drunken mistake"?? Did you mistake that person for your wife??

You have no right to call it love the moment you cheat. Just leave.

PositiveVibez · 17/03/2020 05:36

You really only come clean to your wife because you gave her a sexually transmitted disease. How disgusting of you to have unprotected sex with a random woman and then have unprotected sex with your wife afterwards.

How noble of you to come clean once she realised you had infected her.

Let her go. Especially if you think YOU deserve more 🙄

YewandOak · 17/03/2020 05:36

I have now spent years with someone who hasn't wanted to touch me or barely had any interest in any aspect of me at all. and I deserve more

You deserve exactly what you've got.

I'm not surprised she has wanted to touch you or has lost interest in you! How would you feel if the situation was reversed and you were in her position all these years?

YellowHighHeels · 17/03/2020 05:36

You deserve more, do you? After cheating throughout the relationship and giving her an STD? What more do you think you deserve, exactly? From what you say, emotional withdrawal and your wife looking elsewhere for affection sounds about commensurate.

You sounds disturbingly lacking in empathy or sensitivity for anyone but yourself. Let her go and be mature about it. And for goodness sake accept this is your fault. You've screwed right up. Stop blaming your wife.

CupoTeap · 17/03/2020 05:50

At the same time, I have now spent years with someone who hasn't wanted to touch me or barely had any interest in any aspect of me at all. and I deserve more

Wow. Honestly this is how you feel? You have killed this woman's feeling for you. You have broken her trust and caused her anxiety and a horrible feeling constantly wondering if you are lying and cheating again and YOU deserve better.

Please let her go. If you are sorry at all for what you have put her through.

Hotwaterbottlelove · 17/03/2020 05:56

I just hope she can see me for who I am

She can, she sees you for a horrible person that you are a d as such she doesn't want to have sex with you or be married to you.

This is your fault. If you love her as much as you say, you would gracefully let her have a better life away from you.

Focus on your children now.

Bookworm83 · 17/03/2020 06:01

I have re-read your post and it made me even angrier. How dare you call it "love" Angry

You clearly don't have enough respect for her to be faithful, so just GO and fuck other people, and let her find someone who truly deserves her!

YellowHighHeels · 17/03/2020 09:12

Oh and as for 'seeing you for who you are', every stranger on this thread sees that. Some from thousands of miles away. So be under no illusion, your wife sees you too. It's just that 'who you are' isn't much of a husband.

LoisWilkersonslastnerve · 17/03/2020 09:17

She should have ended the relationship when you were waving the red flags at the start, or you should have, clearly you weren't ready for monogamy but now your poor kids are involved. Let her go and try and be friends for their sake.

84claire84 · 17/03/2020 09:22

You have been UTTERLY horrendous to this poor woman and now you want her.

Unlucky!!!!

I have absolutely ZERO sympathy for you. Actually your behaviour disgusts me

Karma is a bitch.

pinkyredrose · 17/03/2020 09:25

You say you love her but you've got a funny way of showing it. Stop being a selfish cunt and let her go. She deserves far, far more. You on the other hand deserve exactly what you're getting.

isthismylifenow · 17/03/2020 09:30

Why do you deserve more?

She deserves so much better.

You slept around and then said you changed, but did it again.

Your poor wife.

dontdisturbmenow · 17/03/2020 09:30

Sadly the relationship has probably been over since you cheated, mainly because the trust which was already wobbly disappeared.

She probably continued to pretend to ascertain level because she felt insecure financially and emotionally to take the steps to move one. She assessed that being with you without the love was still better than being a single mum on her own.

She's now met someone who has left her either believe that she can do it alone or someone she can rebuilt a family life with with love thrown in it.

I'm sorry to say but whereas you continued to love her deeply during these times, maybe grown to love her more, it's gone the other way for her.

HappyExteriorSadInterior · 17/03/2020 09:39

You don't need any negative comments from me, you have been very honest in your post and accept your past mistakes.

I think with all that has happened you should respect your wife's wishes and separate for a few months. You both need some time apart to think things through.

Maybe go for some couples counselling if not to try and rebuild your relationship but work on how you can stay friends if you do separate.

Good luck.

BertiesLanding · 17/03/2020 09:40

Your post focuses nearly entirely on you (even when you're talking about your wife, it's to say she's pulling away from you, or that you were a * to her).

I'm not sure you're capable of the kind of considered thought and introspection to salvage this.

Elliesmommy · 17/03/2020 09:43

Good God if you have any respect for her. Let her go. Let her be free.
You go your way let her go hers and be friendly for the 2 innocent children brought into a shit situation.
What a mess. Maybe spend time alone and sort your own head out. What is it exactly you want from life?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/03/2020 11:24

Your post focuses nearly entirely on you

Sadly we see this again and again from cheaters - there's simply not the empathy to understand the consequences of their choices, so it remains all about THEM

Noticeable too that OP hasn't been back; doubtless we all just don't understand Hmm

mamato3lads · 17/03/2020 11:37

I want to slap you and i don’t even know you.

Grow up.

Bookworm83 · 17/03/2020 16:13

I don't think OP is coming back!

damnthatanxiety · 17/03/2020 16:46

I'm afraid the relationship was doomed from the very early stages when by your own admission, you were not a great partner. The seeds of resentment and mistrust were sown then and they never went away. The recent transgression - whether a single event or not just added fuel to the fire. I hear you love her but I don't think she loves you anymore OP. Sorry. Live and learn. You can hopefully always be friends and co-parents but I fear the relationship aspect has gone

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