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Oh fuck off online dating!

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allthiswasunseen · 07/03/2020 09:04

I have been on online dating for the first time in my life (mid 40s) - had a first date arranged last night with a guy who sold himself as a nice guy, said life is too short not to treat people with respect - texted daily. Said he was keen to meet and looking forward to it. Didn't effing show up.
Hasn't bothered to text to explain himself. What a tosser! Why do that?

And there's been a whole bunch of freaks on the site too. I feel like giving up and resigning myself to celibacy. It was so much easier back in the day when you met real people in real life! Sadly I seem to have worked my way through all my real life potentials Grin Maybe I need a new hobby....

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TigerDater · 07/03/2020 09:10

Ah that is a shame, there are some right tossers out there for sure! But please don’t let this creep put you off for good. There are some ‘rules’ on the MN dating thread (we’re on no 186!) that may help, the main one being you need a thick skin! And I would also say some new hobbies are a great idea whether you’re OLD (online dating) or not.

allthiswasunseen · 07/03/2020 09:23

Problem is I actually like my current hobbies! Hard to find time for new ones. Sigh. Hence the online dating...its' not working out though!

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TigerDater · 07/03/2020 09:27

That’s great that you’re busy and enjoying your life OP. OLD should only ever be a sideline really, drives you crazy otherwise. Have you had any other dates/chats? It’s early days by the sound of it.

allthiswasunseen · 07/03/2020 09:33

Nothing else has come to anything. I have been really put off by one really weird guy. He messaged me on the dating site. I sent a short reply. Then I went off and did stuff in the house and forgot to log off the site. I came back and hour later to dozens of messages from him getting more and more aggressive and paranoid and weird. Saying I must be laughing at him and how I had to tell him where I live and how he was going to beat me till my skin was coloured. It put me off. Any guy out there might be a weird stalker creepy type.

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PicsInRed · 07/03/2020 10:09

If they bang on about how lovely they are and/or list undesirable qualities they don't want in a woman (e.g. no drama)... they will not be lovely and will absolutely personify that list themselves.

Avoid the ones with a negative, bossy bio or no bio.

TigerDater · 07/03/2020 10:12

Did you report him to the site OP? That is absolutely unacceptable behaviour. What site(s) are you using?

PicsInRed · 07/03/2020 10:12

Saying I must be laughing at him

There are lots of men with rock bottom self esteem on OLD who seem to think every half decent woman is cat fishing them or just having a laugh at them with her friends. Strange.

and how I had to tell him where I live and how he was going to beat me till my skin was coloured. It put me off.

I hope it more than "put you off". He sounds unhinged.

TigerDater · 07/03/2020 10:13

And you could equally be sat next to a creep on the bus ie real life is not devoid of creeps.

Mermaidwaves · 07/03/2020 10:15

I'm with you OP, I'm tired of meeting flakey men who very quickly decide they don't want a relationship. Why are they on these sites then? I never meet men in real life life, where the hell are they?. I'm sorry he didn't show up OP. Without sounding cynical at least you didn't have a date or two, start to like him then he buggers off. Can you tell I've been here before?

PumpkinP · 07/03/2020 11:55

You can report people to the site for not showing up?? That sounds crazy

Justwondering3696 · 07/03/2020 12:48

@allthiswasunseen I think that a lot of them just go on the sites because they are bored or want an ego boost. They will chat and text and pretend they want a relationship when they maybe married or already attached or they just back out. It's very rude to not let someone know you can't make it and I have been let down a few times sometimes near to the actual time. If I am chatting to someone and I m not feeling it then I will have the decency to tell them. It's so hard on us genuine single women who actually want to meet someone. However there are some success stories so I guess just persevere and check in with the dating thread.

TigerDater · 07/03/2020 13:03

pumpkinP no I meant report the batshit creep who wanted to beat OP up for not instantly replying to messages. Standing someone up or ghosting them is not a reportable issue, except to the Good Manners Authority Grin

PumpkinP · 07/03/2020 13:06

Oh no fair enough I must have missed that bit! I was thinking something could have happened to him (although extremely unlikely) so reporting him for not showing up seemed crazy. The guy Saying he was going to beat her up though that should definitely be reported.

famousforwrongreason · 07/03/2020 15:55

Op I hope you showed that message to the police.
One of the first things a lot of cons do , after changing their name by deedpoll is to sign up to multiple dating apps. His response sounds like that of someone who could be dangerous.

allthiswasunseen · 07/03/2020 16:10

I sent the message from the crazy guy to the dating site. They said they had tagged him and would monitor him. I asked them what that meant and also asked what someone would have to do to be banned from the site, if what he had done was not sufficient. I pointed out that if he can't cope with what he saw as rejection from someone he had never met and had only sent him one short message, think what he would do to to a woman who genuinely did reject him in real life. But they never replied. That's what has kinda put me off. If men can behave like that with impunity then the sites obviously care not one shit about women's safety.

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allthiswasunseen · 07/03/2020 16:12

Picsinred I meant put me off online dating. Obviously I am not going anywhere near psycho nutter guy.

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chocolatesaltyballs22 · 07/03/2020 16:15

It's definitely a minefield! But when I was doing it I found the paid sites had a better quality of man on them! Met my now husband on Match.com.

PicsInRed · 07/03/2020 16:23

Thank goodness, it did seem a bit of a sanguine reaction! 😁🤣

TigerDater · 07/03/2020 16:55

alltgiswasunseen wow that was a really poor reaction on the site’s part, I’m genuinely shocked. No wonder you are put off. All I can say is I’ve been on Tinder for two years and have had no cause for concern whatsoever. I think you were very unlucky there 💐

Mydogatemypurse · 07/03/2020 17:11

I would report that to the police for the risks you have mentioned and also because he threatened you.
I think OLD is soul destroying. I really want to believe there are genuine people out there but dont seem to have found any yet x

Fairycake2 · 07/03/2020 17:13

I had the same thought as you last weekend and was about to jack it in when I got a message from a guy who turned out to be lovely. Only been on 2 dates so far so it's very, very early days but I'm more hopeful about this one than any others I've met or chatted to. Sadly it's a numbers game and you have to meet / chat to a lot of twatts before finding a good one 😀

rowlett · 07/03/2020 18:25

Been there OP! I really empathise as it can be such a minefield, although I've never experienced anything QUITE as terrifying as that guy who threatened to assault you (although I've heard similar horror stories from friends and the site's lackadaisical approach to it sadly doesn't surprise me either).

I've personally only ever used Bumble, I liked the aspect of women having to message first. I know it puts some people off but it made me feel a bit more confident in making the first move etc. I had a few one-off (or two-off!) hookups from it which were fine but attempts to find something more serious were a bit offputting... I'm only 28 but I really did begin to feel like I was never going to find someone for something serious because it was honestly like pulling teeth! I first wasted more time than I would like to admit to on someone who was simply chock-full of mixed signals and commitment issues and had no idea what he wanted from one day to the next, and then some time later went on a series of dates with a guy that were really nice, fun and varied and he seemed genuinely interested and attentive... and then with ZERO warning he ghosted me in the middle of a normal conversation and I never heard from him again.

That was the first time I'd ever been ghosted and it made me feel really bad (WHY do people do it!!!) and I was so fed up and ready to jack the whole thing in for a while or forever when I just happened to match with someone with whom conversations flowed easier than they had with anyone else, from the start we were talking A LOT every day and we arranged to meet up for a drink as soon as possible. After everything that had happened I didn't want to get my hopes up too much so I told myself it might end up being just a one-night stand/we wouldn't get on/he wouldn't message me again (yes I did sleep with him on the first date Blush it just happened!) but we ended up staying up into the wee hours talking and laughing about anything and everything and he messaged me again as soon as I left his house the next morning (where he kissed me on the doorstep when my taxi arrived, swoon) continuing as we were, and some time after that we both admitted we had "caught feels". That was about 5 months ago and I'm still on cloud nine from his most recent visit on Thursday Grin I have clicked with him in a way I don't think I ever have with anyone, including a guy I was with for over 6 years! He is fun, respectful, thoughtful, INCREDIBLE in bed, encourages us to communicate about things, we talk all the time when apart, he's told his family and friends about me and vice versa, we have used the L word once or twice etc etc etc. I certainly NEVER thought this would happen to me particularly after the random ghosting, I just assumed I must be terribly unlucky and it wasn't on the cards for me. Funny enough he had also only even matched with two people (me and one other girl before that who he didn't end up meeting) in the past 6 months or so and had ALSO been ready to chuck it in for a bit just before we matched, it almost seemed like fate woo but true!-

As @Fairycake2 says it really is just a numbers game and it does seem you have to weed through a lot of boring/insincere/strange people to find someone you really click with, which CAN be monotonous and soul-destroying and hard to remain hopeful throughout. I would say if you have only been using one site maybe try another, I have a few friends who are on several at the same time but it seemed too overwhelming to me Grin And if it is starting to get you down then by all means take a break. Dating is supposed to be fun (even though it's fundamentally very stressful!) and if it's causing you more harm than good then it might be worth taking a step back so you can come back to it more refreshed when you're ready. I wish you the best of luck Flowers

allthiswasunseen · 08/03/2020 09:24

Thanks Rowlett! Today I thought, maybe I will join a boxing gym. There must be loads of guys there (though probably all in their 20's...). I have two hobbies, one is nearly all female ( i have already dated the only two guys who went who were in my age range Grin) and the other is full of guys in their early 20's. I need a hobby with more dating potential Grin

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LadyMadderRose · 08/03/2020 09:33

It’s taken me until my 50s for the penny to drop that people who self-describe as nice/lovely usually aren’t - especially men, and especially if they seem lovely initially. The fact that they feel the need to make you think they’re nice means proceed with caution.

allthiswasunseen · 08/03/2020 09:47

That's probably good advice Lady. I'm feeling a bit lonely and sorry for myself today. Chances of meeting anyone just seem so remote.

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