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My Girlfriend says she no longer sees a future with me after bad few months

103 replies

Quango1 · 17/02/2020 22:10

I didn't know where else to go for advice so, here goes:

On the 11th January of this year, me and my girlfriend were on my laptop when a Tinder notification came up in the corner of the screen. I had looked at previous messages between me and my girlfriend the week before when we'd first started talking because I felt I needed reassurance that everything was going to be ok in our relationship as we'd been going through a rough patch.

My girlfriend saw the notification and thought I'd been looking at other girls. I made it worse by the fact that I lied first and said I hadn't been on it.

A bit of background about myself; I have OCD so checking and reassuring myself is practically second nature.

However, a day after the incident, I went overboard and began obsessing that she was going to finish me and bombarded her with texts and calls - even my mother called her - which I didn't know about -because she'd seen me upset - which made things worse. I have a history of depression which my mother referenced which of course sent my girlfriend into a panic - her ex told her he would kill himself if she broke up with him.

My girlfriend said she felt trapped and some of the things I did reminded her of her ex such as checking our messages, her messages and feeling left out - he emotionally abused her by making her feel guilty for seeing her friends and not wanting to see him all the time. That really hurt me because I told her she'd never have to go through that ever again. But, I checked for my own obsessional mind; I felt I HAD to check or I would lose her...ironic right?

Anyway, she told me she needed space and I tried to oblige. We met up a few days later, but she said things seemed weird and not right. I apologised profusely and told her how I felt about her.

We kept saying we would work on it; we went out on a few dates and when we were out, everything felt like it was us again - even she said the same.

But, she says she now doesn't feel that we can have a future together. She also has had a history of anxiety and now admits she's depressed (was this my fault? - she says it isn't but I haven't exactly helped). We talked about her going to see a university counsellor this week in an attempt to become happy within herself again.

She still says she loves me and cares about me, but that the situation at the time reminded her too much of what went on with her ex - that I made her feel trapped - and her guard immediately came back up. She used to trust me implicitly and now I don't think she can. And, whenever we see each other and sit in her bedroom all night, we literally just go over everything again, look back at all our brilliant memories and just cry.

Whenever I see her she hugs me tightly and kisses me all the time, but over text she seems so cold. She keeps saying she needs space to figure everything out, but I'm scared that we'll lose touch. She keeps dropping subtle hints that we won't be together anymore with things such as "when you move on". I don't want to move on, I love her with all my heart.

My girlfriend also repeatedly says that I cannot do anything and that this is something she needs to work on by herself - she also gets very stressed with uni work. All I've done is try and reassure her that I'm always here for her if she needs me - I went after work tonight just to talk things through again because she had had a really bad day.

I'm really stuck over what to do; I couldn't bear the thought of losing her as she's the best thing that's ever happened to me. I think she fears that things would never be the same. Can anyone help?

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larrygrylls · 18/02/2020 08:39

Velour,

The owners of MN welcome men. It is, ultimately, their space, not yours, and not a democracy. You cannot go into someone’s house and tell them which other guests they should welcome.

As to the OP, I agree with others, it is not a healthy relationship and you are both young. You would probably both benefit from dating others who are mentally stronger and with healthy boundaries (or not dating at all).

ravenmum · 18/02/2020 10:10

You’re here simply because we can’t stop you from being here but I’d wager that a strong majority would aim to change that if possible.
Really? Why? Maybe you should do an AIBU!

ravenmum · 18/02/2020 10:17

OP, why did your mum have your gf's number? What did you say to your mum when you heard she was butting in on your business in this embarrassing and unpleasant way?

GrannySlippersAreAStepTooFar · 18/02/2020 11:16

You’re here simply because we can’t stop you from being here but I’d wager that a strong majority would aim to change that if possible.
Well you don't speak for me here. And I sincerely doubt the majority agree with you. Do you honestly just think this forum is for women only? And if so, is that only women with children?

Selmababies · 18/02/2020 11:27

You’re here simply because we can’t stop you from being here but I’d wager that a strong majority would aim to change that if possible

Not in my name, thank you.

ShatnersWig · 18/02/2020 11:33

Interesting. I used the expression "oh do fuck off, dear". My message has been deleted. Would it have been allowed to stand had I used ODFOD which has been common on MN for years and years?

Musti · 18/02/2020 11:43

She's told you she needs space so respect that. Chill out a bit and be supportive without pushing yourself on her. Otherwise you'll scare her off and only reinforce what she thinks about you.

I welcome men here. It is great to have the views of men on certain topics and it makes sense for a man needing relationship advice to ask in a predominantly female forum.

TheBlueStocking · 18/02/2020 11:43

It's really loathsome this attitude against men on the forum.

Quango1 · 18/02/2020 12:05

@ravenmum our parents had each other's numbers in case of emergency when we went on holiday together.

And, I had a huge go at my mum. I told her that she basically blamed my gf for how I was feeling and guilt-tripping her into staying with me. I feel so bad my mum did that, but I couldn't help it. My mum still thinks I'm vulnerable after being so depressed about five years ago, but I'm not.

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ravenmum · 18/02/2020 12:38

Glad to hear you stood up for yourself. Don't give her your next girlfriends' numbers!

Quango1 · 18/02/2020 13:13

@ravenmum

I don't want another girlfriend and, deep down, I don't think she wants anyone else either. She repeatedly tells me she loves me and that she doesn't want to see me with anyone else. It's just something seems to be holding her back.

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LizziesTwin · 18/02/2020 13:18

Split up and let her get on with her life. She doesn’t want to go out with you anymore. Leave her alone. Go & do something you enjoy and in a while you’ll meet someone else.

ravenmum · 18/02/2020 13:24

Sure, she is torn between the nice side of being with you and feeling controlled and anxious and not being able to study properly. But just because there is a nice side doesn't mean that she should stay with you.
How old is your gf?

Mordred · 18/02/2020 13:43

@ShatnersWig

"I never knew you could get Tinder on a PC, only on a phone."

I assumed that he meant an email notification popup from Tinder to his email address.

RantyAnty · 18/02/2020 13:44

@velourvoyageur
agree. This forum started off majority women. There are 1000s of all male forums around so I have no idea why they want to post here.
The dynamics here changed when men came and not in a good way. The men seem to show up to chime in what about the men and NAMALT which is annoying as fuck. I can't recall any helpful post towards a woman on here from a man. It is women giving the advice and helping other women get through some pretty horrific situations. Can't one damn group be for women without men trying to hijack it with their 2 pence worth?

Thankfully there are some decent 100% women rad fem groups to go to.

And that's all I have to say about that.

booboo24 · 18/02/2020 13:48

As per my previous post, I've read plenty of helpful replies by men on here, and am ashamed when I read some of the women's replies when they realise it's a man that has reached out for advice. As far as I'm concerned men are welcome here!!!!

Quango1 · 18/02/2020 13:51

@ravenmum she is 22.

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larrygrylls · 18/02/2020 13:59

Ranty,

Shame for you that Justine et al welcome men. As I said above it takes a special type of arrogance to go into someone else’s space and tell them whom they can and cannot invite. MN is a really useful place for ANY PARENT. It is also great that non parents are welcome but that is not the primary aim of the site.

I suggest you go to a 100% radfem site whose aims and mission is more in line with your ideology and where you would feel more comfortable (and certainly not on the thread of a young guy asking for relationship advice),

However I recognise it is not my space either and it is clearly up to you where you post as long as you stick to the guidelines.

ShatnersWig · 18/02/2020 14:02

I can't recall any helpful post towards a woman on here from a man

That's because some of the time you won't even realise it's a man posting. We don't all wear a big sign that says "I'm a man". I only mention on threads where it would be considered absolutely relevant to what's being discussed and never "Man here...." postulating. For example, a woman talking about online dating and why it might not be working for them - perfectly reasonable for a man to say "for me, I find profiles that have filters of butterflies round your head" or some such. I don't ever go on a thread about, say, cheeky fucker parking, and saying "as a man...." because it's not relevant.

I recall about three years ago on some thread where it was relevant and I mentioned it and two other regular posters both said "What? You're a man? I've seen you posting for years and often agree with you and had no idea you were a man" and were both very positive about the way I came across on a particularly sensitive subject.

There are 1000s of all male forums around so I have no idea why they want to post here

Are you fairly restrictive in your thinking? There are very few all male forums and generally they are on topics like cars or sport. I have no interest in either. The vast majority of the forum on MN has nothing to do about parenting but just general chat.

Yes, I'm a man. I am here because I enjoy the forums and enjoy discussion with fellow humans, whatever their gender. My best friend is female. In fact, eight out of my ten closest friends are female. I prefer female company and no, I've not slept with any of them, despite some people thinking men and woman can't be friends.

I also don't have children. But there are plenty of women without children here too and they frequently have to defend their right to be here too. It doesn't seem to enter some minds that maybe those of us who don't have children might perhaps work with children, and so can find some of the topics really helpful to understanding what parenting and relating to children can be like. I myself am not an actual parent but a godparent, so that's helpful for me.

It's a shame some of us feel the need to have to justify our presence for just BEING here. I've made friends on this site over the years that I have kept in touch with by private message or email and been helped by them and vice versa.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Quango1 · 18/02/2020 14:06

@LizziesTwin so why does she say she loves me, cares about me and says I'm her best friend? She still, now, tells me things that she doesn't tell anyone else. Why does she hug me so tightly and kiss me all over when we meet?

She says it's the situation that upsets her, not me?

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larrygrylls · 18/02/2020 14:10

Quango,

Does it matter whether it is the ‘situation’ or you? You have to ask yourself whether you will make one another happy medium term?

OCD must be incredibly tough to live with. both from the sufferer’s perspective and anyone in a relationship with them. I know you cannot see it now as you are in the moment but taking time out from all relationships until you are in a better place would seem sensible.

TheBlueStocking · 18/02/2020 14:21

@RantyAnty

Hmm what a load of rubbish

ravenmum · 18/02/2020 14:21

It is hard to break things off with someone you have had a good time with, but necessary when the relationship is not doing you any good. She is doing her best to be kind and fair, and not to blame it on you, but she is also saying that she is not happy. Make sure that you don't fall into the (totally human) trap of only hearing what you want to hear and ignoring the "but..." part.

You are both very young and sound as if you need to grow stronger and more mature before you are ready for any equal, stable relationship.

TheBlueStocking · 18/02/2020 14:23

It could just be a bad patch, OP. Part of being in a relationship can be working through unresolved trauma from previous relationships. I'd just listen to her, ask what you can do to make her feel comfortable and do it.

ravenmum · 18/02/2020 14:26

OT I don't always agree with ShatnersWig but value his posts as much as the next MNer's. The MN community is indeed not a rad fem group. Anyone who's seen a CF parking thread will know full well that MN is not just about parenting, let alone mums.