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Urgent advice needed! FWB gone wrong! What to do?

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Fightingwithmyself · 16/02/2020 18:53

So I know there will be a alot of mixed responses to this..as yes I went in to this niavely but also knowing the potentially risk...but here we go I have been casually hooking up with my older boss for roughly 4 months..he pursued me...and after encouraging me to go for a job within his team after working in a different sector of the company i did and was successful and then he began a text message conversation with me one evening the same week stating how he had provided a glowing reference on my behalf...

After texting for awhile he stated that colleagues of his had told him I liked him and he wanted to clarify...this went on for a couple of weeks messages back and forth until he stated he fancied me..He then stated he wanted a NSA causal relationship as he was a bad bet for commitment and he didnt want a gf... in which I myself was happy with and after exchanging messages back and forth for a few weeks it began...

Everything was fine he would come to mine during the week after work. He would always initiate and liked the control if I suggested anything he wouldn't give me a definitive answer always maybe,possibly. If I asked would he like to see me he would never directly say yes (only if you want too) etc...he had expressed he struggled with emotions.

However a month in the lines began to blur..usually we would have sex then he would leave..we only spoke about work etc it was all casual however due to the distance between us he invited me to his place one weekend and I stayed the evening and we shared the bed..again though still felt casual..

Until the last few weeks I have stayed at his place every weekend and out of the blue he decided we would go out (he'd never taken me anywhere) it was purely in the bedroom but I was there and I agreed we had drinks, played pool (it was actually surprisingly fun and not awkward) we was both intoxicated however enjoying ourselves and each others company but then he brought up the conversation about 'what do I want' and began asking me alot of probing questions in which continued when we returned to his..he mentioned things unusual like how good he was with kids, (almost selling his good attributes to me) also I have a child from a previous relationship as does he..he mentioned i would benefit from an older man in a relationship, and asked if I was seeing anyone else if I had any intention too also brought up liking me and courting me (yes there is an age gap) and that night after sex he cuddled me in bed in which he has never previously

I tried to bring this up with him sober the next day to which I got the response 'I don't remember' I briefly mentioned the conversation and asked if he would like another one sober in which he agreed...however everything remained lighthearted and flirtatious (the conversation didn't happen) we then hooked up again the weekend after and again he took me out and the exact thing happened again he made remarks of coming home to me every night, having a family etc etc, even inpregnating me, stating I dont like people so the fact I have been seeing you for this long I obviously like you as more than what we are doing....(all again said intoxicated) but very specific nevertheless. I stated I liked him to and if this was to carry on for a longer period I would inevitably want more from this

Again sober (he didnt acknowledge the conversation, nor wish to answer anything about it when asked)

Cut to last week I was sick of him never addressing the subject sober so I asked him straight out whether he liked me more than a fwb or not? In which he said your alright I asked him to be more specific and he stated yes..so I asked if maybe he would like to stay over one night during the week to which he stated was a bit of a commitment..in which I laughed off and stated it was no different then me staying over at his on a weekend..

We remained flirtatious in and out of work however this week..i had a fall and had to go to hospital and he txt me and checked in alot and was being very supportive however when I stated awwh you do care then..he replied no I was just bored waiting to eat...sarcastic as ever..but heres where things changed towards the end of this week we was at lunch with a couple of colleagues and I recieved a phone call from a friend..in which i left the table to take on my return he was sat at the table alone as they had gone to get a drink and he stated 'that one of your boyfriends' 'at least I know where I stand' he then left

I later text him to ask what he meant by that and was a little sarcastic as a was pissed off and said is it a case of you not wanting me but no-one else can either? To which he then asked me a straight question of was I sleeping with someone else? In which I immediately replied no, i then asked why was he? To which he didnt provide me with a direct answer but rather 'I will not dignify that with a response' I was pissed off that he felt the need to ask me however wouldn't reply himself directly so asked him again 'well are you?'

To which I then got 'whatever you know I want a quiet life and this is turning into nagging, if you keep this up this will be stopping'

To which pissed me off to no end because I wasnt the one who has made the comment in the first place so I replied saying that to which he said

Let's call it a day now then to avoid any confusion..when I then asked why has this been blown out of proportion

He then stated

That I wanted more from this I was to make plans have commitments and a relationship which he doesnt want and cant give me and he doesnt like or want to answer questions

The following day we went to work together and it was slightly awkward but bearable I attempted to reach out over the weekend to which I got a shit message of why are you texting me we have had fun it's now over so dont..

However now here is the big thing..I've just found out I'm pregnant (I was using contraception before anyone calls me out for that) and I dont know what the hell to do if i try and communicate he will think i am using this as an excuse because of the current situation but it's really just shocking timing and I'm freaking out because I have to see him tomorrow!

Someone give me some advice please!!

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Fightingwithmyself · 16/02/2020 19:44

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Honeyroar · 16/02/2020 19:44

Yeah there’s a reason why he’s on his own at his age, perving over his employees. Yuk. He’s no keeper..

AnneKipanki · 16/02/2020 19:45

There is no "being with him " .

There is you , your child , and your pregnancy. You have to sort out what YOU want.

Honeyroar · 16/02/2020 19:46

Be aware- he’s more than likely to try and pick you up again in the near future. He sounded like he enjoyed his little power trip.

Wallywobbles · 16/02/2020 19:57

Let self respect be your guiding principle on this one. He likes the chase. He will always see himself as a "hunter". He'll say whatever it takes to pull the ladies in. He's just a self serving cunt under his facade of whatever.

BiggapTwins · 16/02/2020 20:07

@Honeyroar and @Wallywobbles -I agree with you both. He'll come back round again - Lovebomb you and then disappear, all he while behaving like you pushed him away. Bordering on Narcissistic. Your ethics and morals - as in abort or not? Only decision to make at this stage. 100% your choice, as you well know. Change of department perhaps? Change of job and Maternity Leave (if you decide to go head with pregnancy) to consider next. I would not say anything to him until I was in another department. If not possible, a new job. Distance from him? Yes. Door left open with him to 'do the right thing'? Yes. Can you do this alone if you went ahead with pregnancy? Probably Yes.
If you didn't have him as a boss, you'd no doubt tell him straight away. Enjoy your life regardless of your choices - so many reasons to continue to be happy. Flowers Star

strawberry2017 · 16/02/2020 20:09

Please keep hold of any proof of the relationship - texts, emails whatever
If he turns nasty on the job front you can use these as proof of what was going on.
You need these to protect yourself.
I would take some time to think about what you want first. Then when you know you can decide if it's worth telling him or not. X

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Elieza · 16/02/2020 20:13

Even if you told him, what makes you think he’ll even believe the pregnancy is his?

He thought you were shagging someone else.
Even if he did accept it as his just now I’d put a fiver on it that at some point he’ll deny being the father and throw a strop.

He sounds very immature. You will have two kids. Your baby and him!
Is that what you want? How would having a child affect your work? It could be difficult if anyone asks questions or if he has to deal with issues on his custody days that you need to discuss. People will find out. He will be talking about a baby called x and so will you. They will work it out.

Papiermachecat · 16/02/2020 20:14

Or have him sacked on back off #metoo.

But that's not in your best interest in this case.

Fightingwithmyself · 16/02/2020 20:22

@Honeyroar @Wallywobbles @BiggapTwins - yes I'm inclined to agree with you all! Yeah to be honest I ignored some red flags along the way...as it wasn't at all serious but he did silly things like check my handbag while I was at the bar, he mentioned other hook ups, very much likes control..I think he enjoys it! I will take all your advice on board and just concentrate on my decision moving forward can't help but feel slightly annoyed with myself and him in the situation and having to face him tomorrow is going to be difficult.. @strawberry2017 I have kept all the messages etc just in case this ends terribly! I'm not sure at this point it's worth telling him to be honest!

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Fightingwithmyself · 16/02/2020 20:32

@Elieza he may not believe it! He doesnt trust people, he has constantly questioned me and why he should take a chance on me...etc...even though he actively pursued me to start with...he presents differently from one week to the next and is hard to read or gauge because he states he got told not to commit to anything! He has severe trust issues, needs control and exerts his ego in every scenario, he is 13 years my senior and I've just turned 30 so...I'm not young! But I've never given him a reason to doubt me I dont think I think he just used it to start an argument or he has severe trust commit and emotional issues either way it ain't bloody good for me!

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JustForTheTasteOfIt · 16/02/2020 20:35

Don't tell him until you are clear with your decision about the pregnancy. The FWB arrangement is done, be professional for now but I would be looking for a new job urgently. Look after yourself.

This.

And don't put yourself in such a vulnerable position again.

FWB can be tricky to navigate even when the other person is lovely, fun and you're both unattached.

He's your boss, likes control and plays games saying shit then conveniently forgetting.

As others have said, he's the type who will come "hoovering" - he will say he misses you, drag you back in again and then throw you away when he is back in control or bored.

I say this with love - don't be a mug.

Make a decision about the pregnancy and don't tell him unless you decide to continue the pregnancy. And even then, I wouldn't make that decision based on having expectations of him wanting to healthily coparent. At all.

Fightingwithmyself · 16/02/2020 20:37

@Papiermachecat I'm sorry but I'm not inclined to screw anyone over for money nor use a child as leverage to do so! If I'm bringing a child into the world I want it to be for the right reasons and I could marry him? We ain't even talking and only have a 4 months casual hookup relationship? However I do share your opinion regarding abortion that's what my moral struggle is atm! But again I believe you have to be prepared and bring a child in the world for the right reasons

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JustForTheTasteOfIt · 16/02/2020 20:40

Oh and this type of guy is so arrogant that he'll accuse you of getting pregnant on purpose to "trap" him. Because he's such a prize 🙄

Tryalittletenderness · 16/02/2020 20:42

Tell him, you two (three) may have a happy ending after all.

VenusTiger · 16/02/2020 20:43

recently he has been a twat ?? He has always been a twat from what I can see, he's a useless dick OP. Good riddance to him.
I do think you should discuss your pregnancy with him, but I really do not think you should consider being with him ever again, even if he comes around to the idea of playing happy families - it's like he has a split personality or something. You deserve so much better.

Fightingwithmyself · 16/02/2020 20:44

@JustForTheTasteOfIt - yeah he does seem he type I at the beginning was having doubts and got sick of having no control so sent a message breaking it off but he replied that I was being dramatic and then he roped me back in (personally because I think he hated that it wasnt on his terms) now that he has ended things it's fine...

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JustForTheTasteOfIt · 16/02/2020 20:47

Tell him, you two (three) may have a happy ending after all.

He's been so disrespectful to OP, why on earth would she want to be with him?

Fightingwithmyself · 16/02/2020 20:49

Oh yeah he really does think highly of himself either he's a twat or he is covering up some very deep and dark issues....that's what I struggle with I'm a sucker for trying to decipher between the two...if he had only portrayed that side to him constantly I could accept that more..however it's not the fact like I've said previously that it's over.. it's that if I decide to keep the baby i run so many risks with he fathering it

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Fightingwithmyself · 16/02/2020 20:57

@VenusTiger - thanks I agree I'm not sure this is a relationship I would want - casual sex was different but he has proven to be a dick throughout even that!

@Tryalittletenderness - yeah I'm not sure he's actually the sort of 'man' I'd want to be with in a committed relationship he hasn't really showcased qualities many women would like

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hamstersarse · 16/02/2020 21:06

It’s easy without the emotion that you’ll no doubt have right now but i would not go through with the pregnancy

It’s an awful decision but women usually know when it is required and exists for a reason

Lipz · 16/02/2020 21:11

It's a difficult situation. You need to have a good think about this. Decide what you want. If you continue with the pregnancy you'll have ties to him forever. He may not believe you, he may not want a relationship. Do you want to have this baby, would you be able to do it without him. Do what's right for you.

TheGirlWithAPrince · 16/02/2020 21:13

Sorry op but it sounds like this demanding man is emotionally abusive.. He just gaslighted you and made you feel like it was your fault but he was the one getting jealous.

To be honest I would have replied how am I the one wanting commitment if Im sleeping with other men supposedly he's doing you over OP and I wouldn't want to even be friends with this guy.

Either abort baby or keep it and realise you may have to do this alone or at least with a man in the background who plays mind games

Fightingwithmyself · 16/02/2020 21:22

@TheGirlWithAPrince - to be honest no reflecting on it I think you are right I think he has got jealously and control issues

Recalling on some of the things hes done

Hes isolated me from colleagues and stated my colleagues are talking about my dress wear
Hes took over my supervisors from my manager
Hes layed down the law with a male colleague who is friends of mine about sex and relationships with co-workers
Hes stated that being find me unmanageable and acted like my friend and a support
Hes told me not to talk or to trust anyone at work (but to trust him)
Theres so many different things... I'm not sure what the game is here anymore

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