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DP prioritising ex - or am I crazy?

31 replies

ConfuzzedGal20 · 15/02/2020 12:40

sorry its long! didn't want to drip feed! NC so not outing and a bit embarrassed as I feel silly.

Known DP as friends for long time and now together for a year. He ended things with his ex a while before and later confessed he'd been interested in me since we'd first met. all very romantic. He was quite mean about his ex when they were together (i stood up for her as this didn't seem fair) but now we're together he is very protective of her. She didn't like me much when they were together (now i see that this was understandable, i wasn't aware of his feelings for me during their relationship as we didn't speak much, but she must have had an inkling.) Problem is he won't tell her we're together. He says she's too vulnerable to know about us. She hasn't had an easy life but I think that's a bit unfair on her, especially as they still text regularly, meet up for coffees and she buys him presents. He often doesn't tell me he's doing this which makes me feel a bit weird. I've asked him to be more open about when he's seeing her.

It's nice that he's supportive and helps her but i feel like it's a bit much at times, especially when he's evasive about it. I voiced that I wasn't comfortable with the priority she's taken in our relationship and I'm wondering if my concealment is really for her own benefit only.
Recently I went away for a girls weekend and I found out weeks later he went over to hers late at night to console her while I was away. I don't think he's cheating on me with her but after asking him to be more honest with me it hurt knowing he hid this from me. He says he didn't think it was important, which is his response to other details about his life. He says I'd just get mad if he told me and says I'm irrational for having an issue with this as she needs him. Every time I mention my feelings and that he should consider telling her the truth he gets defensive. I've suggested she might prefer him to be honest as I know I would be, he says I'm mean and want to hurt her feelings.

If we're out he'll drop my hand and step away from me in places he thinks she might be. His friends/fam know we're together so I'm not hidden to anyone else.

One issue is that I think I'm communicating my feelings poorly, I struggle to get my point across properly, he has a habit of interrupting, talking over me and dissecting my opinions (even basic things like my likes/dislikes are an exercise in persuasive debate for him) so I often feel like I haven't fully expressed how i feel or end up questioning myself. Maybe I am the crazy one as he's always dismissive/irritated when i do talk about it and he says I'm too emotional and irrational. I do get upset by things so he may have a point there.

He often speaks to his family about our disagreements and from what he's passed back that they say about me, maybe i am emotionally abusive for getting upset and frustrated with him. I just don't feel like he understands and I don't feel like myself at all. He wants me to visit his family and have a relationship with them but it's a bit awkward now. To make it better I just avoid bringing anything I'm worried about up with him, so he can't pass back anything else that might be negative. I dont want them to think im evil for being wary of the ex/annoyed at their son. He seems to think we're ok now that I've stopped communicating my feelings.

I feel quite lonely sometimes, he's not big on texting/calling me and he doesn't think to be affectionate and I struggle with only really being kissed/hugged when he wants sex. He's very driven and is very focused on his goals. it gets a bit overboard sometimes with him trying to get me live how he sees best, with how to exercise, eat, spend, decorate etc. He says it's because he wants the best for me, quite often they are good suggestions.

He says she isn't more important, she just needs help and I'm being silly. He says he'd never be happy with anyone else and I'm the only one who could make him happy. Ending it seems out of the question, It makes me feel terrible that id destroy his only chance at happiness. He must love me if he says this. Maybe it isnt actually an issue and I really have got this wrong.

Am I wrong to feel uncomfortable about the friendship with the ex? I feel like I'm going a bit mad and I don't trust my own feelings. I'm really confused and need a bit of guidance! Please be honest if you think I'm the unreasonable one!

OP posts:
alwaysnamechangingalways · 15/02/2020 12:44

I'd get rid of him if this makes you feel uncomfortable.

notthisshitagain · 15/02/2020 12:47

Oh, come on now.

He's a crap human being and you are not his only chance of happiness. You're his chance to have his cake and eat it.

Have more respect for yourself and get rid. See if they end up back together Wink

MrsSpenserGregson · 15/02/2020 12:49

Urgh. Dump him. He's either cheating on you with his ex, or about to, or she doesn't actually realise that they have broken up (and you're actually the OW).

OhLook · 15/02/2020 12:51

They're either together or he wants them to be.

Aureum · 15/02/2020 12:52

they still text regularly, meet up for coffees and she buys him presents
This is completely inappropriate. It’s either over or it isn’t! Assuming they have no children he needs to completely cut contact with her.

He often doesn't tell me he's doing this
There’s your answer. He’s lying and going behind your back. Get rid of him.

DocusDiplo · 15/02/2020 12:56

LTB. Really. Stop overanalysing it all. He's a rude prick who doesnt listen to you or care about your feelings. Move on.. don't let him sweet talk you

notthisshitagain · 15/02/2020 12:57

Aside from the issue with the ex, this guy is controlling you, manipulating you, gaslighting the shit out of you, and putting you in your place at every turn.

What on Earth do you see in him??

Greenkit · 15/02/2020 12:59

He is lying
Possible cheating

Either way he is no good for you at all

scottishlass123 · 15/02/2020 13:04

He is completely manipulating you and making you feel that questioning his bad behaviour makes you a bad person and in the wrong. He does not sound like a good person, who is he to tell you how best you should live your life, what you should eat? He does not care for your feelings or opinions and wants you to be submissive to him. He is controlling you. He should not be lying to his ex, that is wrong and deceitful. He is disrespecting you and his ex. Does he have children with his ex. Were they married? You have described somebody who lies, is manipulative and is dismissive of your feelings.

Slothischilling · 15/02/2020 13:04

What are you getting out of this relationship? Let me guess he is charming. Are you sure he is not playing both of you at the same time? -- not displaying affection in case she just so happens to be there.

He says his family say such and such and such about you.... Look up about triangulation see if you see any patterns. (Also with telling you stories about ex but his actions don't match...what is he telling her about you... You are this friend that keeps trying it on with him and he has told you no no not interested blah blah bullcrap.
Possibly. I may be wrong. Check.
what if you speak to the ex? You may have more in common than you think.

(Not just both being interested in a selfish beep beep triple beep and letting him totally mess with your heads).
I think you would get more honest answers from the ex and not him.

Is she an ex?
Why does he care about her feelings if he is not with her? (See how much he gives a toss about your feelings or anyone else's feelings in general. It's pretty much him him him him him him him him him him.) He gives you the time of day when he needs his needs met I gather. His ego is being stroked by both of you.
Think of stories when the cheating lying partner plays the dirty and finds some other source of supply and promises the earth and the moon that they are going to ditch their annoying nagging wife .... They never do. Many stories actually reveal the wife is pregnant in most cases.. . Shows us how much they are not sharing the same bed ..... Oh let me guess.... It just happened...he fell ... It was a 1 night stand ... He doesn't know what he was thinking. . .yeah they know what they doing. Deliberately deceiving people for their own selfish narcissistic selves.

Talk with friends and family. Hope you get more posts on here and hopefully they say LTB. All the best.

RLEOM · 15/02/2020 13:05

Jesus christ, this man is taking you for a fool! He's more into her and her feelings than you and your feelings.

I'm sorry but I'm surprised you're still with him. He's gas lighting the hell out of you! And do you know what's going to happen when you try to leave? He'll feed you a load of crap about how much he loves you, you're going to believe it, and he'll keep on repeating the same behaviours. And I wouldn't be surprised if he does it or will do it with other women.

I know you want to believe him, you love him, long term friends etc, he'd never betray you, yada yada yada, but actions speak louder than words. He still loves her, obviously more than he loves you otherwise you'd be his priority, not her.

Morporkia · 15/02/2020 13:06

He sounds like a nasty, manipulative, controlling piece of shit. He’s a user and will eventually turn that use into abuse if he hasn’t already. Run for the hills. You’ll be better off without him.

AmelieTaylor · 15/02/2020 13:06

Irrespective of his relationship with her he’s just a jerk

His ‘wanting to be with you while he was with her’ isn’t romantic - it’s telling you who he is and it’s being reinforced by his behaviour now

Men who say the woman can’t handle the truth are full of shit. What they mean is they like feeling like the consoling hero and like to feel the woman can’t cope without them

She’s not a child. She’s a woman and us being lied to by him

He’s done a right number in you too.

Do yourself a favour and walk away- he treats you like crap.

Menora · 15/02/2020 13:12

This man is a knob and right from the start was always going to make a terrible partner
He’s enjoying all this game of anguish

Sadolmeee · 15/02/2020 13:42

Does he have children with her?
I’m all for exes being amicable and even friends who have children together but not late night visits and lying to you about it.

Is she vulnerable ?

Lifeisabeach09 · 15/02/2020 14:08

Agree with PPs completely.
He is still involved with his ex, emotionally at the least.
He is, also, not good for you.
Dump the prick and find someone who lifts you up emotionally rather than tears you down.
Your relationship is not healthy.

Dozer · 15/02/2020 14:10

Urgh, raise your standards.

Why would you even date a friend you knew had been mean to/about his ex GF while dating her?

Dozer · 15/02/2020 14:11

“I’m the only one who could make him happy”

He will have said that before, and if you dump him will pull similar bullshit on his next GF.

Make yourself happier by getting away from the loser.

HollowTalk · 15/02/2020 14:12

This man is awful! And as a general rule, if you feel like you're going crazy when you're with someone, or you feel you're being treated as unimportant, dump them. You're worth so much more than this.

Butterymuffin · 15/02/2020 14:21

Ending it seems out of the question, It makes me feel terrible that id destroy his only chance at happiness

It's scary that you see it like this. Why is his happiness more important to you than your own?

He sounds pretty dismissive of you generally, not only about the ex, a with the interrupting, telling you why your opinions are wrong etc. I would say you want to take a break as you're not sure the relationship is right for you. How he reacts will be very telling.

BarbedBloom · 15/02/2020 14:43

Ugh he is awful. His poor ex. I wouldn't be surprised if he is cheating on you to be honest, hence all the secrecy. I wouldn't want to be with someone who was mooning over me while pretending all was fine with his current girlfriend. It shows a real lack of character. In fact, maybe now he is with you he is mooning over her. He is one of those grass is always greener men

JuanSheetIsPlenty · 15/02/2020 14:51

He was quite mean about his ex when they were together

I can’t for the life of me fathom why any woman with a shred of self respect would see a man being mean about his partner and decide that was what she wanted. Confused

What on Earth made you want that?

Luckybe40 · 15/02/2020 16:04

Why the hell are you not WAY WAY more concerned about how you don’t voice an opinion or be honest about your feelings as he runs you down when you do? You’ve had to completely change yourself for this guy, his ex (who he’s still shagging or involved with obviously, I mean he won’t touch your hand if she might be around? Seriously?)is a total red herring, him changing you and chatting shit about you is way worse. Dump now, you can’t see how damaged he is. And he will damage you.

Luckybe40 · 15/02/2020 16:08

Paragraph 5,6 &7 in your op are the REAL issues, you should be running a MILE! Hills are that way➡️➡️➡️➡️

Cherrysoup · 15/02/2020 16:27

So basically he’s training you not to raise issues or problems that concern you, you’re stepping on eggshells so as not to upset him-but it’s fine for him to upset you by seeing his ex constantly? He is gaslighting you and abusing you. Then he’s telling you that YOU’RE the abusive one! Classic script from a master manipulator. He has no respect for you.

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