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He can't ever fall in love with me? WWYD?

43 replies

LittleSunnyflower · 12/02/2020 15:37

I want to start this by saying I have already ended things with him, but I am suffering and I am just really struggling to make sense of things and I wondered if anyone has dealt with a similar thing with a partner before and can offer some insight or advice? (sorry this is so long - I tried to cut it down but I didn't want to leave out anything important, also I've name changed and tweaked some unimportant details just in case it's outing)

I met this guy through online dating, we met mid December and hit it off massively. We more or less spent the whole first weekend together, as he was about to go on holiday for three weeks to his home country (he's Spanish).

Off he went on holiday, and he couldn't have acted more interested. During this three weeks, for example: he video chatted me almost daily (sometimes for an hour or more) - he text messaged me constantly, off and on for the entire day more or less. There was lots of sexual attraction but lots of mental/emotional attraction too. He was extremely affectionate (lots of kiss emojis and hearts and sweet words and pet names).

He came back and we saw each other and it was still great. Then a week after he got back (this is now almost exactly a month that we'd known each other) we were lying in bed talking and somehow the conversation turned to "us" (at this point we had agreed to keep things casual and that we weren't exclusive although neither of us was seeing anyone else). Then he told me he wasn't falling in love with me and he didn't think he ever would/could.

I thought this was a strange thing to say, given that although we'd been talking for a month, I'd only seen him in person like 5 or 6 times! The conversation was calm but just strange, and he left my house late that night and I was under the assumption that because he didn't see any proper future for us, he didn't want to keep seeing me.

The next day, we messaged a lot back and forth and he came over to see me. We talked exhaustively and finally he said he really did want to keep seeing me, he was overthinking things and just not living in the moment, but that he very much wanted things to be casual and he didn't want to be exclusive.

I was genuinely fine with all of this, especially as I know that since he split with his wife a few years ago, I'm the only one he's properly dated.

So things ticked along fine for a few more weeks, he kept asking to see me and making plans with me, was still in regular contact every day and video calling me most nights he wasn't at my house. Still very affectionate and would come rushing over if anything was wrong (like if I got ill, or once when my pet got hurt).

Then we had a strange Saturday, where I met him in town to do some shopping and I could tell something was up. Finally he told me he was back on the dating app and had matched with someone, but that he hadn't been interested in her - but that he felt like he was cheating on me by talking to someone else. And that he realised he was just keeping his profile open as a crutch of sorts, and that he was going to delete the app.

I was taken aback by the cheating comment, as far as I knew he was already using the app to look for other people, so we started talking about his feelings. And then, somehow, all of a sudden he was telling me that I'm "Just his very good friend" that he likes to sleep with, and that again he'll never ever fall in love with me (and he knows this because he would be feeling it already if he was) and we went round in circles for hours. Until I asked him point blank what he wanted, and he said he just wanted to keep seeing me.

(I know, I know.)

So I told him I'd like to keep seeing him but that these thrice-weekly freakouts had to stop. That either he wants to see me and see how it eventually goes, or he doesn't, but either way he needs to decide.

Things seemed okay, the next day we had an amazing day together and he told me he was sorry for the drama, that he wanted to just see how things went, and he didn't know why he kept fucking up something amazing with me. He also admitted that he feels "more for me than just a friend" and he is super happy around me, and I make him feel things he's never felt before.

This last weekend we went on a little trip together, we were each seeing separate friends and I drove us there and back. He planned a lunch just so I could meet his friends (he'd introduced me to the rest of his friends in our town, and he'd taken me to where he works, already) and when we went out together it dawned on me that we acted more like a couple than the actual couple we were at lunch with. It just hit me all of a sudden how off it was for him to keep telling me we're casual and he wants to see other people and yet at the same time, not see anyone but me and act like my boyfriend all the time.

so I talked to my friends about it, who all said he's got serious issues and that I need to cut it off or I'll just be dealing with this forever. So on the drive home this past Sunday, I asked him if he'd spoken to his friends about us and the situation. He did and said they told him they thought it was going to end in disaster, based on how he'd been acting about it all, and that he'd been thinking the same thing. I told him I thought we should probably stop seeing each other and he looked upset but he didn't put up a fight and agreed immediately that it was for the best.

Since then I have been miserable, I miss him so much, I had to message him yesterday about some of his stuff he'd left at my place, and what to do with it, and he was so sweet and extremely talkative and seemed so happy to hear from me. We had talked on Sunday about just being friends but I know I can't handle it, I'm too attracted to him and like him too much.

But now... I just wonder if I've made some big dramatic decision prematurely, or if my head is so far in the sand that I can't see the truth of the situation at all?

Has anyone ever experienced this with anyone - did I do the right thing ending it?

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Ahundredpercentthatbitch · 12/02/2020 15:40

Yes you did the right thing.

He basically told you that you're not good enough to be a proper girlfriend but you're good enough for a convenience shag while he searches for someone better.

Fuck him.

hellsbellsmelons · 12/02/2020 15:45

especially as I know that since he split with his wife a few years ago, I'm the only one he's properly dated
Of course you are dear!!!!
STOP BEING SO NAIVE!!!
He's a player.
He made it clear from the off he just wanted to use you for sex and you went along with it.
WHY??
Please value yourself more for future relationships.

This guy is a complete headfuck and you are well rid.
Now block, ignore and delete.
You've seen him a few times.
Stop catastrophising this.
He's a fucking twat.
That is all you need to know.
Now move on and listen to your friends!!!

LittleSunnyflower · 12/02/2020 15:49

OMG THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR. thank you! Thank you thank you thank you.

I obviously have my own issues to work through still, I can't believe I actually walked away though, the old me never would have done even that.

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Onthelookout1 · 12/02/2020 15:51

This is awful. He is playing mind games . You deserve better .

hellsbellsmelons · 12/02/2020 15:53

Just read that back - bit harsh - sorry!
But sometimes cruel to be kind can work!
You are already improving and making good decisions.
Be proud of that and build on it!

Princessfaffalot · 12/02/2020 15:54

He’s a head fuck. You’re a million times better off without him.

Onthelookout1 · 12/02/2020 15:55

Op he will be back so please BLOCK

rvby · 12/02/2020 15:56

He was being honest with you, he wanted to keep seeing you but wanted you to understand he was not interested in a serious relationship with you. In other words he wanted fun shags and company.

When you had these long discussions with him that ended in him saying he wanted to keep seeing you - that's what he meant. It doesn't sound like he ever changed his tune, but possibly you decided that "keep seeing each other" meant "actually no, I do want something serious with you".

He likes you and has fun with you, but wants to keep looking. That doesn't sound like something youd be ok with, so you made the right choice!

PinkMonkeyBird · 12/02/2020 16:04

You've dodged a bullet! He def sounds like a player!

lifeisgoodmostofthetime · 12/02/2020 16:04

He was honest with you which, is more than a lot of people would be. He likes you but not enough to commit to you. Shame as it all seems quite positive

LittleSunnyflower · 12/02/2020 16:09

I mean, to be totally fair to him, during one of the conversations about him never falling in love with me, he said he wasn't sure he could ever fall in love with anyone and he definitely wasn't sure he wanted a serious relationship ever again. So clearly in hindsight I was doing some selective listening because I liked him so much. Sad

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Notcoolmum · 12/02/2020 16:10

When someone tells you who they are listen.

He is being honest with you and so feels vindicating in seeing other people etc because he told you it wasn't serious. Whilst acting differently when you see together. Delete and block and come and join us on the dating thread. We sometimes challenge each other. But we are full of support and advice.

Onthelookout1 · 12/02/2020 16:11

@littlesunnyflower he was doing some selective talking aswell.

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 12/02/2020 16:22

Just reading that was exhausting. Your head must be wrecked!

You deserve better than this, at the very least you deserve a man who is open minded about potentially falling in love!

Windmillwhirl · 12/02/2020 16:50

Absolutely did the right things d you are right: work through your own stuff. If you don't you risk getting tied up with another absolute idiot.

He really wasn't all that x

Peignoir · 12/02/2020 16:55

Oh, sweetie. He's playing a game called Fuck Her Mind. Blowing hot and cold one moment and then talking about how he'll never fall in love again. Blah blah blah. He's trying to inspire sympathy from you so he can do whatever the hell he wants.

Steer clear. He's a trainwreck.

AlrightThen · 12/02/2020 18:09

Oh OP, it's all about him isn't it?

He probably got attached on some level but that's only because he doesn't want to be on his own.

He's telling you he would never fall in love with you and then later that you make him feel something he'd never felt before! So he's basically put you in a position where if he ditches you for someone else you won't have a right to complain but he's also giving you false hope. Does he consider your feelings at all?

I know you miss him but please stay away from this man. Have you got other friends you could spend time with? Or even a FWB, nothing wrong with that, but it should be someone who you're not attracted to emotionally = you won't be hurting when the arrangement ends.

Because he's not your friend. He's using you.

OP, life is better when things are clear, this situation is giving you anxiety. A man who is genuine about the relationship will not make you feel this confused.

Flowers I'm sorry OP but please put yourself first. You will save yourself from more pain further down the line.

LittleSunnyflower · 12/02/2020 18:26

I can't thank you guys enough. I felt the switch flip in my head. For some reason I needed to see you all say the same thing in black and white for it to really sink in. WOW. I'm so glad I posted here, I was really romanticising it all in my head, but I absolutely see it for what it is now.

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aroundtheworldyet · 12/02/2020 18:35

Fuck me. What a fucking twat. Well done for walking away. Don’t ever doubt yourself again.

wobblywinelover · 12/02/2020 18:37

So pleased you got rid of him OP, dating sites seem to attract these weirdos who think we are sweeties in a shop and they can't decide which one they want. Never be somebody's option! you've done the right thing. Very hurtful though isn't it!

ChristmasFluff · 12/02/2020 18:38

Just to hammer it home - if you ever did get back with him, he would end up 'cheating' on you at some point - maybe even years of head-fuckery down the line - and then he would say, 'how can I cheat when we aren't in a relationship? We were never serious, and I told you from the start I could never love you!'

Really bear that in mind, because as others have said, he'll likely be back if you let him.

Karwomannghia · 12/02/2020 18:43

This happened to a friend of mine. She tried to be cool with it but wasn’t really, meanwhile he got more and more indecisive and unreliable, threw in some false hope about joint set ups in the future and left her almost suicidal.

vegvegveg · 12/02/2020 18:45

Someone did this to me, exactly the same behaviour! It went on for a YEAR, I was kidding myself and accepting crumbs in the hope it would eventually become a proper relationship, it never did! Headfuckery at its finest! You'll be fine 🙂 I met my fiancée soon after.

Heismyopendoor · 12/02/2020 18:48

You’ve had a very lucky escape!

Blackbirdblue30 · 12/02/2020 18:48

Delete Block Move on and get your power back. Best advice I ever got. It’ll sting for a few weeks but much cleaner long run. This guy’s a mess and keeping you as an open option for a shag. Next please.