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He can't ever fall in love with me? WWYD?

43 replies

LittleSunnyflower · 12/02/2020 15:37

I want to start this by saying I have already ended things with him, but I am suffering and I am just really struggling to make sense of things and I wondered if anyone has dealt with a similar thing with a partner before and can offer some insight or advice? (sorry this is so long - I tried to cut it down but I didn't want to leave out anything important, also I've name changed and tweaked some unimportant details just in case it's outing)

I met this guy through online dating, we met mid December and hit it off massively. We more or less spent the whole first weekend together, as he was about to go on holiday for three weeks to his home country (he's Spanish).

Off he went on holiday, and he couldn't have acted more interested. During this three weeks, for example: he video chatted me almost daily (sometimes for an hour or more) - he text messaged me constantly, off and on for the entire day more or less. There was lots of sexual attraction but lots of mental/emotional attraction too. He was extremely affectionate (lots of kiss emojis and hearts and sweet words and pet names).

He came back and we saw each other and it was still great. Then a week after he got back (this is now almost exactly a month that we'd known each other) we were lying in bed talking and somehow the conversation turned to "us" (at this point we had agreed to keep things casual and that we weren't exclusive although neither of us was seeing anyone else). Then he told me he wasn't falling in love with me and he didn't think he ever would/could.

I thought this was a strange thing to say, given that although we'd been talking for a month, I'd only seen him in person like 5 or 6 times! The conversation was calm but just strange, and he left my house late that night and I was under the assumption that because he didn't see any proper future for us, he didn't want to keep seeing me.

The next day, we messaged a lot back and forth and he came over to see me. We talked exhaustively and finally he said he really did want to keep seeing me, he was overthinking things and just not living in the moment, but that he very much wanted things to be casual and he didn't want to be exclusive.

I was genuinely fine with all of this, especially as I know that since he split with his wife a few years ago, I'm the only one he's properly dated.

So things ticked along fine for a few more weeks, he kept asking to see me and making plans with me, was still in regular contact every day and video calling me most nights he wasn't at my house. Still very affectionate and would come rushing over if anything was wrong (like if I got ill, or once when my pet got hurt).

Then we had a strange Saturday, where I met him in town to do some shopping and I could tell something was up. Finally he told me he was back on the dating app and had matched with someone, but that he hadn't been interested in her - but that he felt like he was cheating on me by talking to someone else. And that he realised he was just keeping his profile open as a crutch of sorts, and that he was going to delete the app.

I was taken aback by the cheating comment, as far as I knew he was already using the app to look for other people, so we started talking about his feelings. And then, somehow, all of a sudden he was telling me that I'm "Just his very good friend" that he likes to sleep with, and that again he'll never ever fall in love with me (and he knows this because he would be feeling it already if he was) and we went round in circles for hours. Until I asked him point blank what he wanted, and he said he just wanted to keep seeing me.

(I know, I know.)

So I told him I'd like to keep seeing him but that these thrice-weekly freakouts had to stop. That either he wants to see me and see how it eventually goes, or he doesn't, but either way he needs to decide.

Things seemed okay, the next day we had an amazing day together and he told me he was sorry for the drama, that he wanted to just see how things went, and he didn't know why he kept fucking up something amazing with me. He also admitted that he feels "more for me than just a friend" and he is super happy around me, and I make him feel things he's never felt before.

This last weekend we went on a little trip together, we were each seeing separate friends and I drove us there and back. He planned a lunch just so I could meet his friends (he'd introduced me to the rest of his friends in our town, and he'd taken me to where he works, already) and when we went out together it dawned on me that we acted more like a couple than the actual couple we were at lunch with. It just hit me all of a sudden how off it was for him to keep telling me we're casual and he wants to see other people and yet at the same time, not see anyone but me and act like my boyfriend all the time.

so I talked to my friends about it, who all said he's got serious issues and that I need to cut it off or I'll just be dealing with this forever. So on the drive home this past Sunday, I asked him if he'd spoken to his friends about us and the situation. He did and said they told him they thought it was going to end in disaster, based on how he'd been acting about it all, and that he'd been thinking the same thing. I told him I thought we should probably stop seeing each other and he looked upset but he didn't put up a fight and agreed immediately that it was for the best.

Since then I have been miserable, I miss him so much, I had to message him yesterday about some of his stuff he'd left at my place, and what to do with it, and he was so sweet and extremely talkative and seemed so happy to hear from me. We had talked on Sunday about just being friends but I know I can't handle it, I'm too attracted to him and like him too much.

But now... I just wonder if I've made some big dramatic decision prematurely, or if my head is so far in the sand that I can't see the truth of the situation at all?

Has anyone ever experienced this with anyone - did I do the right thing ending it?

OP posts:
DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 12/02/2020 19:51

Dust yourself down lovely and get back on with swiping!

Zaphodsotherhead · 12/02/2020 20:53

I had a man say this exact thing to me.

'I enjoy our time together but I'm never going to fall in love with you. The spark just isn't there.'

Didn't stop him wanting to shag me though. I died just a little inside when he told me that, but it was the end for me. I didn't want to just be a shag buddy. You did exactly the right thing, it could so easily have turned into you being used for company and sex while he still looked about him for the 'real thing'.

Bluntness100 · 12/02/2020 20:59

Yeah, he's a player op. Keeping you going whilst keeping his options open in case someone else who he felt was better came along.

Your self esteem would die with this guy.

Didn't date since he split from his wife, lol, he's even dated when he was with you, he's on the apps and actively looking and meeting women. Ffs.

Block and delete. You're worth more than being someone's second best.

MMmomDD · 12/02/2020 21:17

It is also possible that he had a traumatic end to his marriage and is still scarred.
And possibly a break depressed. The talk of never falling in love again - seems to me to mean that he hasn’t properly got over his marriage breakdown.
So - I personally don’t think he is intentionally doing smth to you. He is just confused and lost.

It doesn’t change anything, really. You can’t save him. He isn’t ready for a relationship. And he clearly can’t handle a casual arrangement. It’s hopeless.

Emijen · 12/02/2020 21:19

Thank the heavens that you’ve had such a lovely escape

madcatladyforever · 12/02/2020 21:23

Why do you miss hi, he sounds like hard work.
I only realised how utterly exhausting my drama llama husband was when he left, realised that I was always upset, had to come home from work a few times because I was upset and was so sick of him arguing black was white.
When he left the relief was palpable.
This guy sounds like he thrives on drama. He'd give you a breakdown in a few years.

Honeybee85 · 12/02/2020 21:24

I have OP and it ended in heartbreak for me.
In this case the guy said he was ‘too afraid to fall in love with me’ blablabla. Bullshit. I was naive snd stupid and in love. I tried to convince him and I cringe looking back at myself.

When a guy says those things it means he just wants to use you for sex. If he doesn’t fall in love with you, walk away. Find somebody who will. It’s not your job to convince him to love you; that’s so humiliating.

You did well by dumping him. Block him and move on. He’s not the One. If he were, he wouldn’t treat you like this.

LittleSunnyflower · 09/03/2020 14:11

I wish I'd really listened to you guys the first time. I let him back in and I'm feeling worse than ever.

The the poster who said this sort of thing left a friend feeling suicidal, wow. That hits deep because actually, it's starting to make me feel the same way.

Re-reading your posts really helped. If anyone wants to come give me some EXTREMELY TOUGH love or advice, can you please come do it? I don't need to be coddled, I need a huge boot up the arse to stop being so pathetic over some guy who won't ever commit to me.

OP posts:
MrsTerryPratchett · 09/03/2020 14:18

I talked to my friends about it, who all said he's got serious issues

However, his aren't your problem, yours are.

Why are you happy to accept crumbs of a relationship? Why aren't you saying, "shame he thinks that because I'm fucking fantastic, and he's missing out"? Why are you letting him take up space in your life for someone who will love you and treat you right? Why are you having exhausting heart-to-hearts like this instead of saying "I'm sorry but this isn't working for me"?

IShineAShoe · 09/03/2020 14:18

You need to block him! Any ongoing contact is just going to keep bringing up these feelings. Block, and try and get this twat out of your head. Flowers go easy on yourself, this can’t be easy.

RuffleCrow · 09/03/2020 14:18

It's not about you op. If he wasn't freaking out with you he'd be freaking out with someone else. You're just the backdrop to his one man show. Sorry.

ThirtyAndASmidgen · 09/03/2020 14:46

Block him everywhere and if he turns up at your home or workplace, don’t answer the door and/or call security! You need to go 100% no contact with losers like this, otherwise they’ll be sniffing around you forever.

RantyAnty · 09/03/2020 14:59

Block him everywhere. Never speak to him again. Make sure he has all of his crap so he can't use that as an excuse to come over and jump in bed.

Have you dated anyone else yet?

LittleSunnyflower · 09/03/2020 15:34

@RantyAnty I went on a bunch of Bumble dates with guys who seemed nice, most of whom turned out to be total creeps.

There was one nice guy (I slept with him a couple times) and we dated for a few weeks but I just don't feel anything but miserably in love with the Spanish guy.

I know, it's so pathetic. I actually hate myself a little bit for still wanting him this much even though he's basically taken the utter piss out of me for months now.

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SmellyBeard · 09/03/2020 19:06

The on/off uncertain aspect and all the heightened emotions have got you hooked. The only way to stop it now is to go cold turkey I'm afraid. And this means blocking every channel of communication. No exceptions.

You have to mean it though. And you have to continue it even when you miss him and feel hopelessly in love with him and your whole body is crying out for him. And if you feel depressed.

Try and see it as a commitment to your future self.

I'm sorry you're going through this. Been there myself and it's torture.

NoMoreDickheads · 09/03/2020 19:26

You deserve better than this OP- someone who's genuinely 100% into you and not hurting you so often with this stuff.

Block and on to the next when you feel ready xxxxx

Viletta · 09/03/2020 19:38

@LittleSunnyflower well done for splitting up, forgetting someone is hard, best advice I have is to stop all contact, no stalking and it will gradually fade. Give yourself time and try find happiness in other goals for now. Good luck!

ALittleBitConfused1 · 09/03/2020 21:00

Some great advice here. I think you know you've done the right thing. Well done you for seeing your worth and removing yourself from the game.
Now as others have said I can 100% guarantee he will be back. When he thinks he has given you just enough time to miss him but not quite enough to get over it. Block now and fuck his stuff he can either collect it from outside or the bin men can have it. I would send him a polite but blunt message. I have a busy week coming up, but thought it best to get this done once and for all. I'll leave your things in a bag out side on (insert day here) so if you dont collect I will assume you dont want them and donate to the charity shop. Thanks and take care.

I mean, after all if it was that important to him he wouldnt have left them at the house of someone he was never going to love would he.

Then block and delete and get on with the rest of your life, preferably without a man with the emotional intelligence of a five year old or one that has drama written through him like a stick of rock. Congratulations on setting the bar high enough.x

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