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Please can you give your honest opinion of my dh

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ncfornow89 · 05/02/2020 10:27

I feel like I am close to leaving and I don’t have a lot of RL support so I guess I just want someone to help me see clearly.

Dh does the cooking (which he enjoys, and he picks most of the meals we eat) and he does washing up. This is the extent of what he does round the house. I do all laundry/drying, cleaning (toothpaste out of the sink, splashes off the kitchen tiles behind the hob, sticky surfaces, hoovering obvious dust, mopping dirty floors..: the works but what I’m saying is that it’s very obvious mess that needs cleaning and left to his devices he does not do it.) I sourced a cleaner as was sick of doing it all but we paid halves of the cleaner. When we had to get rid of her recently dh just wanted to get a new one. I did the whole house this week myself as we wouldn’t have the help and he literally lay in bed all Sunday afternoon while I cleaned up around him.) He tells me I should tell him if I want him to “help”. But being the “manager” in this way is so draining and frustrating. I wish he could jsut see what obviously needs to be done and do it. Nevertheless we have argued about this before and he says I don’t appreciate his contribution. I also clean the cats litter out and keep her fed and watered, again he doesn’t take the initiative even when her litter tray stinks obviously.

He is lazy. Not jsut around the house. In the mornings I start work earlier and need to be gone by just after 8 but he lies in bed til gone 8 and is always complaining he slept badly (I think this is partly due to him being very overweight and entirely sedentary.) As a result I rush to get dd dressed and breakfasted in the morning before I leave otherwise they will be too rushed before school and I know he will be impatient with her. Which leads me into..

He is moody and grumpy. If I go to gym for 45 mins in the evening (after ensuring dd dinner is done), I will often come back and he has got cross with her about something. In the mornings he frequently messages me when I’m at work spouting about tantrums and how cross he is to start his day this way. He has a very short fuse with dd and sometimes he has flashes of playfulness or being Disney dad esque which also maximum of a day before he is too tired, grumpy or bored to really engage with dd and he just ends up getting cross with her or just going on his phone and not playing with her etc. It’s got to the point where I am considering changing back my work hours so I do all getting ready, school dropoffs, pickups, and am going to quit the gym (which I love doing 3 or 4 times a week) so that dd doesn’t have to deal with dh moods. He bought a parenting book months ago but has never read it. I’m always coming up w it parenting strategies to try and help him be less impatient.

He is also moody with me (and worse sometimes.) If I “seem off” or especially if I challenge him on something he goes from 0-10 and says I’m always criticising him. If I defend myself it’s that I’m “impossible to communicate with” and “turn everything into a debate”. In the past 2 months he has threatened to leave me about 4 times including getting bags out on occasion. Then he will say he never wants to leave me. It’s very confusing and I feel that it’s a situation where if I try and raise a grievance he will be angry, defensive and ultimately pulls the leaving threat to get me to comply. He will sulk and stonewall, scrolling through phone when I’m trying to talk. When in this mood he will abandon any responsibilities around the house or to dd and I find it hard to carry on as I need to.

He is childish. Always farting around me even thoguh I’ve asked him not to, making inappropriate jokes I don’t like, his only “hobbies” are scrolling through reddit and playing on a computer game. I am the only one who plans evenings out for us, holidays, family time. He is really overweight and refuses to address it. This has also contributed to our lack of sex life because I just don’t fancy him anymore (but I have never told him this.)

Our joint finances consist of a 50/50 split of everything even thoguh he earns about 30% more than me. But he will “send me money” for a coffee etc sometimes.

He doesn’t have any life outside our relationship. Doesn’t see friends, doesn’t go on work nights out, doesn’t have hobbies outside the home.

He is spiteful. He will say anything in a row. Has previously told me I’m crazy, I’m impossible to talk to (my job is in comms and I volunteer for an advice line so I know this can’t be true), I’ve driven him to suicidal thoughts, im fucked up by my parents marriage, I am not good at parenting. He takes this all back when we make up but it still stings. I’ve said some stuff to him to: I’ve told him that I don’t want another baby with him while he gets grumpy with dd/me and I’ve told him I think he can be abusive. And he throws these back at me all the time.

He’s entitled. He earns almost six figures at a company with ridiculous perks, starts at 10 and finishes at 6, can work from home whenever, and he’s always complaining about it. About how stressed he is doing school dropoff as it interrupts his preferred work schedule (when I offer to do it instead he takes this as an insult against his parenting skills). About how if he doesn’t get a promotion a year into a job he should leave. If I try and gently give him some perspective he accuses me of being unsupportive. I just feel like he’s so entitled he can’t see the wood for the trees.

I don’t want a baby with him. I don’t want to make any more commitments with him. It’s like my gut is screaming. Believe it or not I still feel love for him but I’m beginning to think the problem is NOT me. I have a fit bit that tracks heart rate and now whenever we have a tense conversation I can see my heart rate just shoot up. I agree with him that our communication is bad but for all the reasons above I don’t know how to make it better. He’s cast himself as the one who is a victim. I guess I want to be with a “man” and I jsut feel like I’ve got another child. He is in his thirties but his attitude is that of a teenager still at home. And the way he is contemptuous to his mum kind of predicts how he is becoming/will become to me.

Ughhhh.
It’s not good is it.

OP posts:
lollybee1 · 05/02/2020 13:52

You are type A, he is type B. He needs to buck up a bit, you need to chill a bit. Why would he choose to sort things out when you are always in there first.

random9876 · 05/02/2020 13:59

Are you ready to leave him? If not, I would personally go to couples counselling, first alone for a few sessions to get your head straight, then with your DH.

This is not necessarily to save the marriage, but to gain clarity and to 'allow' yourself to leave having done what you can if that is what you want.

Your DH also sounds as though he is in distressed state of mind - obviously I don't know if this is a product of the situation, or just his general personality - and actually it would be helpful to have some more balanced conversations with him, even if they are to say goodbye to the marriage. Ultimately, you'll need to coparent even if you do split, so if you jointly make at least some effort to understand what has happened, it might help.

Sorry, btw, it sounds dispiriting and exhausting xxx

ncfornow89 · 05/02/2020 14:00

Lollybee im not sure how you deduced that from my post. The fact is if I don’t do it it doesn’t get done. I could leave our home filthy for a couple of days (I’ve tried it), he would not address it. I could suggest all the parenting tools in the world and he would attempt it for one day before moaning to me how much he hates the getting ready routine in the morning and how dd isn’t cooperating.

OP posts:
ncfornow89 · 05/02/2020 14:02

I honestly feel like balanced conversations are impossible with him it’s so easy to touch a nerve and I give up tbh.

We have a holiday booked in 2 weeks. I don’t know what to do- wait til we are back from that and then leave? I have the ability to do so. I am not sure how to play this. However, the posts about my dd and how this affects here are screaming at me and tbh I already know that deep down anyway. It’s just not right any more.

OP posts:
Goawayquickly · 05/02/2020 14:07

Sounds so much like my ex, it has affected my daughter more than I'm comfortable putting here but in truth I'll never quite forgive myself not leaving sooner. Living like this had a catastrophic effect on her MH. Don't be me.

ncfornow89 · 05/02/2020 14:09

Goaway how old was your dd when you left?

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/02/2020 14:14

I would not go on holiday with him, its just papering over the cracks. He is not suddenly going to become either father or H of the year either.

Ninkanink · 05/02/2020 14:34

@ncfornow89 will your daughter be extremely disappointed if she doesn’t get to go? If so I would go and just plan to do as much as possible with just her, to make it as nice for her as possible.

If she wouldn’t really care, I personally wouldn’t go. You will feel so unhappy (because are supposed to be fun, spending time with lovely people whose company you enjoy) and probably also very lonely.

NoSquirrels · 05/02/2020 14:48

I have suggested counselling and he has said before he will do it buts it’s left up to me to arrange

Tell him - counselling, which HE arranges to price he believes the marriage is worth saving - or you split up.

Ninkanink · 05/02/2020 14:53

That should say holidays are supposed to be fun...

lollybee1 · 05/02/2020 14:54

You need to be tougher. You said you left the house for a few days. Haha, try a few weeks. To be fair my OH did the same until I stopped jumping in a doing it myself. He does most of the cleaning now.

Gutterton · 05/02/2020 15:32

Seriously you have tried and tried and tried. He isn’t listening to you.
You are flogging a dead horse.
I bet that you are becoming someone you don’t want to be - angry, bitter, nagging, exhausted.

That’s not nice for your DD was to witness.

Drop the rope. Don’t engage with his power battle. Go quietly to see a solicitor.

Does he drink?

ncfornow89 · 05/02/2020 15:38

@gutterton no he doesn’t regularly drink. It’s not related to that.

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Goawayquickly · 05/02/2020 16:50

@ncfornow89 she was 12.

daisychain01 · 05/02/2020 17:08

I earn a pretty good wage too, though like I say about 30% less

If he's on £100k approx then it puts you on £70K??

Given all your valid concerns about him, why oh why are you still in a relationship with such an unlikeable person who brings you almost zero happiness.

You have choice. You have resource.

Why allow him to drag you down in life? Why aren't you exercising your option leave (it seems like you're teetering on the edge of going). It isn't as if you'll be destitute, is it?

daisychain01 · 05/02/2020 17:08

option to leave

UYScuti · 05/02/2020 17:09

SonEtLumiere
I hope you are able to dissolve the marriage asap and get on with your life!

Geppili · 05/02/2020 17:15

What was it like in the beginning with him? What were your and his parents' relationships like? He sounds spiteful, lazy and complacent. You sound strong, tender and competent. What kind of model is he for your DD as a man?

Deadringer · 05/02/2020 17:24

it didn't matter to him and his opinion had more weight than hers. ScreamingLadySutch that really resonates with me. Op your dh is lazy, selfish, and a pretty crap father, and the worst thing is he doesn't care. It's so sad that you feel you have to manage him so that he doesn't scream at his child. As far as he is concerned he is good enough, and if you don't agree it doesn't matter, because you don't matter, at least not as much as he does.

Dozer · 05/02/2020 17:26

Fantastic that you don’t have DC with this loser: get away from him asap!

Dozer · 05/02/2020 17:27

Sorry, you do, but (due to his behaviour) don’t want any more with him?

Still leave asap

simplekindoflife · 05/02/2020 17:40

I'm exhausted just reading your post OP. Life shouldn't be this hard. You should be a team, a partnership. He should be your support and your rock.

He's a fucking liability!!

I’m just so done.

You really are aren't you. You have nothing more to give. Stop wasting your energy on a man who will never change.

Thanks for you OP.

pallisers · 05/02/2020 17:40

He sounds dismal and miserable. Why would you waste your life living like this?

fuckoffImcounting · 05/02/2020 21:05

I think he is Cunty McCuntface. I would be packing his lazy arse bags for him.

ChewChewIsMySpiritAnimal · 05/02/2020 22:52

think he knows he is not pulling his weight and it just makes him angrier and that comes on to me.

Of course he's not angry because he's not pulling his weight. He's angry because you're trying to make him do it. He tells you he's going to kill himself because he is unhappy with you. Manipulative little shit isn't he?

Id go on holiday just you and your dd and leave him as soon as you can. This is no way to live.

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