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Stay together for the kids

32 replies

AngryToast94 · 03/01/2020 17:59

What happens when you realise you've chosen the completely wrong person to have kids with? I cant bare the thought of my kids coming from a broken home or having to share them.
Should we stay together for them?

OP posts:
Sleepingboy · 03/01/2020 18:01

I am. But I know some people say its wrong.

Bluebutterfly90 · 03/01/2020 18:01

No.
The kids will be able to tell that their parents don't get on or don't love each other, and it sets a really unhealthy example.

The term 'broken home' is outdated and inaccurate IMO. Having divorced parents isn't unusual and my home was never more broken than when it had two unhappy parents in it, rather than one happy one.

Sorry you're in this difficult position OP. Flowers

DartmoorChef · 03/01/2020 18:02

What sort of message about relationships would you be giving to your children by staying together in a loveless relationship. Surely you would prefer them to see you happy not miserable.

Kids arent stupid, and how do you think they will feel as they get older when they realise that its their fault you stayed together.

Headsashed4 · 03/01/2020 18:03

I second what @Bluebutterfly90 said.

Ivebeentohellanditscalledikea · 03/01/2020 18:04

I stayed together for 10 years and it just bought misery. The children picked up on it and weren't happy (there was abuse too but I didn't know that bit). Now I'm a single mum they are like different children and things are so much better. They have even commented how it's nice to have a happy mum so they definitely pick up on it.

Life is to short to be unhappy.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 03/01/2020 18:05

The children will not thank you for it.

HarrietSchulenberg · 03/01/2020 18:06

No. Much better to split up and make an effort to be great co-parents.

My parents stayed together for my sake. They hate each other. They are now in their 80s and are locked in a relationship of hate and despair that they are now too old to change.

It does not feel great knowing that they have this life because of me, even though I didn't get a choice, although I did urge my mum to leave my dad when I was a teenager and worked out how it all was.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 03/01/2020 18:12

AngryToast

Do not use your children as the main or even the reason to stay together; whose sake are you really staying for?. They are not glue nor should be used here as this to bind you and this man together.

What do you want to teach your children about relationships and what are they learning here?.

When marriages are angry, conflicted, or terribly mediocre, parents often default to staying together for the purported sake of the children. As our children grow older, they tend to replicate relationships similar to what their parents modelled. As parents we’d never say we want our children to suffer or struggle in their relationships. Yet that’s the greater likelihood. It’s not what we say, but what we do that matters. Telling our children they deserve healthy, respectful, and loving partnerships isn’t taken to heart if we don’t have the courage to live up to our own words. What we model for them is very much what we might expect for them in their future relationships. From this perspective we might question the sincerity of the expression “for the sake of the children.”

If we want our offspring to have joyful and successful relationships, we need to provide them with the best example we possibly can. Living in mediocrity or worse burdens children with very confusing messages about relationships and happiness. It certainly instructs them that loving marriages and partnerships are not their birthright.

Not infrequently, people are simply afraid to move on with their lives and take their own responsibility for happiness. Financial concerns or the fear of being alone often motivate such paralysis, hidden beneath the mask of staying together for the children. At other times, it’s easier to blame your partner for your discontent than to come out of your sense of victimhood. Unloving or conflicted marriages often follow a lineage as they are passed down from generation to generation. And so the cycle continues. Is this what we really wish for our children? It is much more challenging to come to terms with our own circumstances and face our fears than it is to hide behind them as we stay together “for the kids.”

Divorce is not failure, living in such unhappiness is. Divorce, in and of itself, need not be harmful to children. It is the adversarial and contentious process of divorce, if continued, that may wreak damage. Having two parents successfully move forward with their lives teaches an invaluable lesson: that we deserve to be happy and to feel loved. Conversely, remaining in relationships that perpetuate anger, devaluation, and lack of positive interactions leaves an indelible scar on children.

Horses4 · 03/01/2020 18:14

My ex and I have a much healthier parenting and personal relationship for not being in a romantic one. We do occasions etc as a family, and attend our eldest’s medical appointments together and do family holidays on occasion. In no way a broken home and better than a sham marriage

labyrinth · 03/01/2020 18:15

I stayed with my abusive ex 'for the sake of the kids'. After 6 years in the relationship and it almost killing me through crippling depression and anxiety (not to mention the abuse) I left. I was also worried about the kids but after the initial upset died down they seemed happier and I felt such relief!
One night I was preparing the bath for the DC and I overheard DD (5) talking to DS (2) whilst looking through a photo album in her room. He pointed at a picture of their father and said "Daddy", and she said "Yep, that's Daddy. He doesn't live with us anymore. It's just me and you and mummy, but we are happy. And they both love us to the moon and back."
Made me cry. They really ARE resilient and genuinely do cope better than we do.
I am happier now than I have ever been. The sharing is hard, but it gives you some time to yourself that you otherwise probably wouldn't have.

Icanflyhigh · 03/01/2020 18:18

I stayed for 8 years longer than I should have, and had two more DCs.

The kids are damaged from this, not beyond repair, but damaged all the same.

In hindsight I should never have gone back after the first time we split, but I cannot deny my youngest two DCs, I love them implicitly - but their father is a narcissist and they are affected by it all almost 6 years later....

itwasalovelydreamwhileitlasted · 03/01/2020 18:31

The grass isn't always greener.
If he's a good man but you just don't feel that heart stopping all encompassing soul mate love you read about in books/see in films then I'd be inclined to stay with him. That kind of love you are possibly looking for doesn't exist

You can't compare an abusive relationship with one that just doesn't light your fire - which one do you have OP?

VerySale · 03/01/2020 20:01

"That kind of love you are possibly looking for doesn't exist"

This isn't true at all. I know couples who have been together years who are very much in love.

I agree with pp, children are resiliant and will bounce back if it's handled properly. Growing up in an unhappy environment is just damaging for everyone. I left my unhappy marriage and whilst my DCs were upset, they have quickly got used to it and my home is much calmer and happier now. Part of me wishesI hadn't waited so long in my determination that my DCs wouldn't come from a 'broken' home.

Zzzz19 · 03/01/2020 20:21

It’s a tricky one. They generally don’t like being passed from pillar to post either and seeing their mum and dad with new partners and living in blended families so it’s not without risk.

Livandme · 03/01/2020 22:11

I have been married 13 years and I would say after 8 I was unhappy.
I tried to push my unhappiness to one side and fill my live with hobbies and friends but it all came down to one thing. I was unhappy at home and looking for other things to take my mind of the issues at home.
About to start the separation process so no advice about further down the line..

Feminazgul · 03/01/2020 22:16

Coming froma broken home is better than being in a broken home

Zzzz19 · 03/01/2020 23:15

Depends how broken the home fem. my parents stayed together with not much affection but we had a nice secure life as kids. My best friends mum ended up leaving her husband and marrying an abuser who was jailed for this. Like I have said, nothing is without risk.

3gingerboys · 03/01/2020 23:41

@AttilaTheMeerkat very wise words, I've sent that to my DH who is in complete denial and refuses to separate x

bettertimesarecomingnow · 04/01/2020 04:50

No you shouldn't stay.

I too have realised this and I'm moving on. Our house is being sold and we are separating. Dh doesn't want to but has accepted it now.

I want to be in love and I'm not.

The dc will find it hard to begin with but dh and I get on well so we will be amicable and make it work for them.

Life is too short to be unhappy - good luck OP

Windmillwhirl · 04/01/2020 05:40

Of course your children will pick up what's going on. They are learning fro you and your husband where to set the bar for themselves in the future when it .comes to relationships.

You are doing them and yourself a disservice staying in an unhappy relationship.

Maybe ask yourself is the children the only reason you are staying or are you afraid to leave as well?

MakeItRain · 04/01/2020 08:01

My mum and dad "stayed together for the kids". I grew up in an unhappy, miserable home. My mum would walk out of rooms when my dad walked in. He was having an affair which we all knew about but noone talked about. My mum genuinely thought that we children wouldn't realise there were problems.

As an adult I never did manage to have a single happy relationship/partnership. All my long term relationships have been abusive and unhappy. I'm sure my upbringing had an impact on that.

I'm actually very happily single now and live very peacefully with my own children. My advice would be never, ever "stay for the kids". It was miserable for us growing up.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 04/01/2020 08:28

I agree that it depends why you are unhappy as to how much the children pick up on.

It’s what happens after the split that impacts far more on children from personal experience rather than the actual split. New partners, step/half siblings etc.

aroundtheworldyet · 04/01/2020 08:38

Children always know if you’re unhappy. If it’s an unhappy home.
They might not seem as though they know, because it’s their normal but once they get to a certain age. 10ish on then seeing other people’s lives makes them think about their own life at home.
So sure. If they’re very young it might not matter. But at some point it will matter

00Sassy · 04/01/2020 08:46

As parents it’s important to do whatever it takes to make sure your dc are raised in a comfortable, happy and nurturing environment where they can express themselves freely and are able to flourish.

That’s not going to be achievable if you aren’t happy as a couple so you must therefore split and provide the above from two separate but happier homes.

It’s scary to think about all the changes at the start but it can be done and is being done very successfully by plenty of other parents.

You can do it Flowers

MHsupport · 04/01/2020 09:22

Whilst I agree it’s not good for children to see poor relationships for role models, I do think there is a lot to weigh up and on occasions parents do put their own needs above their children’s in these circumstances.

Obviously if it is making you seriously unhappy and a worse parent to stay with your partner then that is good reason to consider separating.

For me, my parents splitting was horrendous and has impacted me and my relationships ever since. And there wasn’t anything intrinsically awful about their split - we had enough money, stayed in the family home, saw my dad etc. It was just the loss, akin to grief of him leaving.

I think anyone contemplating breaking up the family does need to think about the financial, logistical side of things as well as the reality of being a single parent. Also the personalities/sensitivities of children.

There are lots of people staying in mediocre relationships for what they feel are good reasons.

Good luck to anyone in this situation.