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Does my DP have ADHD. Can I have some advice

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Lostdirection · 26/12/2019 10:02

Name changed as although I don’t post often I feel it could be outting.

I need some support. I am slightly at breaking point and have endless thoughts running through my mind. The lead up to Christmas and recent events have led me to believe my dp’s mind doesn’t function quite how everyone else’s does- apologies if I’m phrasing this incorrectly. I really need to find a way forward so would like some opinions, advice and hand holding.

I will start by saying we’ve been together over a year, live together and have no financial commitments, no children etc. I love him and care for him deeply. I am a kind, honest, Come across as confident but equally it’s taken me a long time to be this way and so suffer with self confidence.
I will go out of my way to put others needs first, often sacrificing my own needs. I wouldn’t ever be horrible to someone or make someone feel worthless. Here is where I’m struggling.

I don’t think our relationship is working- and I don’t know whether it’s just us, me, him or underlying issues. Albeit even if there is whether I want to commit to helping support someone.

The behaviours which lead me to feel exhausted and emotionally overwhelmed are....

  • He talks over me, be that in a one to one conversation or more annoyingly in a group. I’m unable to answer my own questions, he retains information about my work and personal couples discussions which he then discusses with others. I’m often left feeling like I’m no longer heard (this wasn’t the case before)
  • He cannot take any sort of dry sense of humour or sarcasm. Everything is taken literally. If jokes made by close friends, family etc. He brings them up later and tells me off for saying it, saying that I made him feel belittled etc. He says his siblings do this too and others. These comments really aren’t. But I can see why he feels this so I’ve stopped. Often it means if other wives etc are making jokes about men leaving toilet seats up or silly things men do- I can’t comment because later it’ll be brought up and too much fuss made.
  • Lack of eye contact. At first I thought this was due to shyness & he has a slightly lazy eye. But actually I’ll notice he’s often looking elsewhere.
  • hyper sensitive to smells ... he easily wretches around things like picking up the dog poo (god forbid we need to change nappies ever), can’t take paracetamol without gagging, if he has a headache it is somehow far worse than everyone else’s. Etc etc
  • lack of self care. Forgetting deodorant, not washing clothes so running out of boxers and socks. Not noticing nasal hair, never cutting toe nails. I would just “leave him to it” but then some of these things seem to cause him great stress later on (lack of clean clothes) , me pointing out that his shirt smells even after washing.
  • having clear conversations but then they’re forgotten. We’ve made plans and then he’s forgotten. I’ve text him to remind and he’s not read it but replied about something completely unnecessary. Later it’s caused issues.
  • anxiety. For me this is a big issue- he frets about being on time, arriving at the airport is stressful he panics and is anxious (asks the time, asks for his passport constantly- I have now said check the time yourself, keep your passport ). He won’t wait for me if a taxi arrives he will go out and get in and call me on my mobile panicking it will leave. (Central London we can get another!). I have to say at the start of each overseas trip we’ve been on I’ve sat on the plane thinking “I can’t cope with this, I feel deflated and exhausted”
  • losing things. Keys. Wallet. Clothing. Anything really. I lose things but it’s the level of panic and stress he reaches if these items aren’t in front of him. Also if I ask him to go into a room to grab something, he often comes out saying he can’t find it. It will often be right there. He said he might be dyspraxia but he does nothing to manage this. - I’ve written him to do lists, made him a box for his keys wallet etc.
  • lack of self esteem. If I’ve tried to discuss the above he’s either dismissive, defensive or has once and only once opened up and cried saying he’s always felt a misfit, struggled to find a girlfriend, felt he was different. I sympathise here and it’s why I probably have stuck by and thought that I must stay and support him. I used to have extremely low self esteem and can easily slip back to it- I know how hard it is.
  • Our sex life is bad. It always has been. I hoped it would improve. It hasn’t. To the point he either has ED, can’t concentrate, my needs are never met ever so I’ve stopped wanting it. It feels like a task because none of it seems about me. My mind is totally elsewhere now. I know I’ve become distant. He’s asked but doesn’t exactly make any moves either. It’s all a bit sad really.
  • Certain days or times will be ruined by him suddenly being so hungry he will faint (yet he skips meals and never drinks water). Hangovers will throw him and if he gets a cold he takes days off work and even suggested he had meningitis last week- albeit during this he drank barely any water and lived off junk food (I had to work late).
  • he binge drinks. I tried bringing it up but sadly I get back “well so do you, remember that time”
  • there are so many other things I could list. But he’s been ill before Christmas. Brought on by excessive London Xmas parties in office and the fact we are all suffering with colds etc. But he’s said I show no sympathy, we’ve bickered a lot recently, full blown argument when on a group holiday.

I would like to add, because I feel it’s important. I suffer with depression and am medicated. I am very stable happy and have a good network of friends, social life and a successful job. My parents suffer with depression and bipolar and I have struggled with this. I have seen how my mother stayed with my father and has suffered. I cannot always be the person to give give give.
I also work in a job - I won’t say what as it’s outting- which requires organisation, meeting the needs of children, demanding at times albeit rewarding. At the end of a work day I am often mentally drained- I’ve taken on a slightly easier job recently (sane career) and feel it’s helped but now this has highlighted my home life as being draining.

Part of me thinks “why didn’t I notice before” or why did i dismiss it. I then think that he’s so kind and caring (will run me a bath after a long day)
That I should be there and push for a doctors, but he literally never goes to one, that I’m early thirties and desperately want a relationship (future marriage kids etc) I adore his family. And the thought of hurting him fills me with such sadness and anxiety.

But I’m home over Christmas feeling so utterly deflated, friends have noticed and asked. I keep snapping and he’s commented I’m nagging. I don’t ever want to be that person.

Ps- wow that was long and sorry for the typos.

OP posts:
Lostdirection · 26/12/2019 10:07

I have over the last three days read thread after thread on ADHD etc on Mumsnet, taken an online test, and it’s keeping me awake.

I’d like to add he contacted me on Xmas day with nice enough messages- but they don’t show much emotion/ they’re usually more facts about what he’s doing. No questions asked.
He didn’t phone me on Christmas Day to chat and I tried phoning but went to voicemail.

Just feel rather let down

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category12 · 26/12/2019 10:12

Christ I wouldn't have kids with him.

Don't waste any more time on him. If he has an undiagnosed condition, what difference does it make, if he won't seek treatment or learn to manage it?

Jump ship. Don't waste your fertile years on him - he'd be a nightmare as co-parent.

CmdrCressidaDuck · 26/12/2019 10:17

It's early days, you have no stresses or children to manage, and it already isn't working. This will only spiral down.

What difference will a label to put on him make? You've said it yourself: it isn't working. It doesn't work. It sure as hell isn't going to get better if you add a baby to the mix.

If he wants to find out - for himself - whether he's non- NT and what that might mean for him he can. It's not something you can do for him.

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 26/12/2019 10:23

Regardless of what he has/doesn't have he's not right for you. He will drain you and it sounds like he won't even seek the help he needs.

Lostdirection · 26/12/2019 10:24

I think I feel a severe amount of responsibility for him and a great amount of sadness in knowing he’d be distraught. (He says I’m the best thing to ever happen to him). He is a kind and interesting man, I just don’t think those things shine out above the others anymore

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Inforthelonghaul · 26/12/2019 10:28

No idea if he is or has something definable but what is clear OP is that you are not happy in this relationship and long term it cannot work without you becoming resentful and deeply unhappy. If he can hold down a job he can clearly manage to a certain degree and needs to apply the same commitment to his personal life and relationships.

Staying with him will not improve your self esteem OP. Time to walk away from this one and whatever you do, do not imagine that having a child will help.

Your life, your choice OP. You’re at a fork in the path - which way will you choose?

IM0GEN · 26/12/2019 10:32

You are not responsible for him. You have no ties or commitments.

He’s a grown man who holds down a job and presumably functioned before you met him one year ago.

Get out now - you are not happy. You would be a fool to marry him and I think you know you could never have kids with him.

I’m sure he’s not a bad person but you are simply not compatible.

And once you have left him, please consider going for counselling to work out why you didn’t see these red Flags sooner. I suspect it’s due to being a child carer and perhaps related to your job. But a counsellor or therapist will help you work on this and develop clearer boundaries.

crankysaurus · 26/12/2019 10:35

From what you list, maybe he might have ADHD or another neurological difference, but that doesn't mean you have any/added responsibility. It really doesn't.

If the relationship is making you sad then it's not for you, simple as that. And it's okay to break up because you find those behaviours too difficult to live with.

bigTillyMint · 26/12/2019 10:35

Lots of those "issues" could be linked to ASD rather than ADHD, but only an expert diagnosis could pin down what is actually behind all the behaviours.

It's more about whether you can live with him/the behaviours for the future than a diagnosis.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 26/12/2019 10:39

What do you get out of this relationship now?.

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?. I think you learnt a hell of a lot of crap along the way and this has led you into being with someone this disordered now.

Its not your fault he is the ways he is and you did not make him that way.

Re your comment:-
"I think I feel a severe amount of responsibility for him and a great amount of sadness in knowing he’d be distraught".

How do you know he'd be distraught?. From what you write about him he could not care less about you. Please do not bring a child into this car crash of a relationship. You cannot act as either a rescuer or saviour in a relationship; neither approach works and you are already seeing this is not working. Seek out a therapist (BACP are good) and unlearn all the rubbish you have learnt about relationships to date.

Re this comment:-
"I'll go out of my way to put others needs first, often sacrificing my own needs. I wouldn’t ever be horrible to someone or make someone feel worthless."

You are not responsible for him when all is said and done. Thinking this makes me wonder if you are codependent. Do read about codependency and people pleasing behaviours and see how much of this relates to your own behaviours. Sacrificing your own needs here for others is really doing you no favours at all and is not doing your mental health any good either.

Lostdirection · 26/12/2019 10:40

Thank you. I do plan to go for some counselling.

I think I know the only answer, I just wanted to ask for some advice and I have friends I can talk to too- I just haven’t had the courage to tell them yet (they’re all happily married).

Our home together is mine, I just guess the thought of making someone homeless and taking away what they currently see as their whole world is making me feel awful. But I can’t stay with someone because of guilt, etc because it’ll slowly destroy me.

Sadly my last long term relationship was very abusive. Three years of being single- and dating in London- when I met “the nice guy” that all my friends thought were amazing and he whisked me off my feet. I guess as these issues came to light I thought they were part of any relationship.

I am strong enough to deal with this just about. Just not sure he is.

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IM0GEN · 26/12/2019 10:44

You are being melodramatic - you are not his whole world.

He has a job and and a loving family, who he spend Christmas with.

He will not be homeless - I assume you will give him notice and he will get a flat / share , just like everyone else does.

Please think about doing the freedom programme .

RoseyOldCrow · 26/12/2019 10:46

Hang on - this sounds like my DP.
I'm confident he is non-NT, sharing many of the traits of your DP.
I fell in love with mine 20 years ago, he is kind, high-achieving & there are more positives than negatives.

Being honest, I have had to learn to ignore his particularly challending traits, even ones that were previously a big deal for me.
We have DC, they are perfect (obviously!)

It is possible to structure a successful life together, providing you are both willing to compromise & to work at it together.

disappointy · 26/12/2019 10:47

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category12 · 26/12/2019 10:47

He presumably managed his own life and had a world before he met you. He will do that again.

Do look into co-dependency and possibly the Freedom programme since you've previously had an abusive relationship.

JKScot4 · 26/12/2019 10:59

There is little positive here and you’re only a year in, walk away. I think you’re grasping at straws, if he has a label then this excuses his shitty ridiculous behaviour and you can stay with him and spend your life feeling sorry for him because he has whatever.
Do not settle for this misery, what adult faints because he doesn’t eat? No sex live?
Move on, there’s far better out there.

Lostdirection · 26/12/2019 11:11

I will look into these programmes. And I do need or want some counselling- I did finally end up getting some but the only available slot was a day in a work week and I kept having to cancel last minute - whilst still having to pay- it’s a charity run one.

Yes he does have an amazing family and friendships so he would be ok. I did mention us splitting during a heated argument - his response was what about the dog, and then a comment about me. He promised to change. Nothing happened.

I don’t know whether to bring up an ADHD assessment and see if things improve. Or walk away.

It’s comments such as “is any relationship easy” which has made me think I should learn coping strategies. But it’s become that home isn’t a sanctuary anymore- it’s a place of stress and I actually worry I’d slowly destroy this kind man with my resentment.

Also looking at my parents relationship- staying together for the kids. And with mental health issues. I refuse to become that person and resent someone so much you become Nasty.

Thank you for all advice.

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IamMaisie · 26/12/2019 11:20

Ive got Adhd and I share a lot of traits with your partner, although some of them just sound inconsiderate, some maybe something else. Adhd is typically comorbid with other stuff so it's unlikely to be the only issue.

I have to say from posts I read on MN, although this might be a horrible generalisation, many undiagnosed men tend to not want the label, refuse to acknowledge something might be wrong and make no effort to manage their symptoms (probably because they have a partner or a wife managing their life for them) whereas women tend to need the label or the diagnosis as a sort of self vindication as to why theyve been finding it so hard to manage their own lives, let alone everybody else's. They tend to have spent their whole adult lives trying to be 'normal'.

Anxiety, depression and self esteem issues that stem from undiagnosed adhd can take years to unpick. Social nuances and expectations take a lifetime to learn. Someone can only do all this if they want to, you can't do it for them.

It can be really tough on relationships - even for those who desperately want to manage their symptoms. You already have difficulties of your own, do you really want to sign up for this?

If you really love him and feel like you have the energy, have you thought of telling him that you think he has adhd? That you want/need him to address it and if he doesn't, you will have to walk away?

It's worth pointing out also that getting a diagnosis as an adult isn't as simple as going to your GP, it requires research and self-motivation and it can be very difficult, especially on the NHS. Even managing this will be quite a fete for him and if he does it will be an indication of his commitment to sorting out his issues.

RLEOM · 26/12/2019 11:24

Autism and possibly ADHD. Sounds just like my ex who had the whole trio - autism, ADHD and tourette's.

Neolara · 26/12/2019 11:25

Hmm. May be worth looking at asd as a possibility.

crankysaurus · 26/12/2019 11:26

Is add to IAmMaise's post that adult diagnosis, even for the very willing, can take a long time. NHS waiting lists local to me are two years for adults. That could be a long haul in a relationship you don't sound happy in.

category12 · 26/12/2019 11:27

If you're in your early 30s and you want kids, you really don't have time to spend on trying to "fix" him - 1, you manage to convince or ultimatum him into getting a diagnosis (realistically how long would that take?), 2. assuming he gets a diagnosis, you and he have to have time to accept that, 3. however long it takes getting him to genuinely engage with support and strategies to control the behaviours consistently, if he does, and 4. how much that actually makes a difference. Effectively you're looking at years of pouring your energies into him.

And I do believe relationships can be easy.

crankysaurus · 26/12/2019 11:28

And I want to add, as for many relationships on here, it's not your responsibility to fix him and you can't change him. If it's not working then it's unlikely to work in the future.

Lindy2 · 26/12/2019 11:29

Do you really want a long term commitment with your partner? It sounds like you are already finding this very hard going (quite understandably).

My daughter has ADHD. Her symptoms don't really match what you are describing but there are some similarities. What you describe sounds more ASD to me.

Living with someone with ADHD/ASD is hard. She's my daughter, I love her unconditionally but it's not what I would have chosen for our lives. I wouldn't have chosen a partner with all these additional challenges.